The Metro Vancouver Retail Thread - Page 363

Prometheus · #**7241** Posted **Mar 27, 2014, 1:10 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by logan5

Do you not agree that Wal_Mart is predatory?

Do you not agree that Wal-Mart cannot force anyone to shop at its stores?

If a Wal-Mart succeeds while other stores fail in a neighbourhood, it is because people in that neighbourhood decide that Wal-Mart is a better shopping choice for them than the other stores. If you don't like the success of a Wal-Mart in a particular neighbourhood, then your argument is with the neighbourhood's residents (and their personal needs), not the Wal-Mart.

logan5 · #**7242** Posted **Mar 27, 2014, 1:11 AM**

You got me there.

Just like people find driving everywhere a better choice for themselves.

osirisboy · #**7243** Posted **Mar 27, 2014, 1:21 AM**

There's a lot of things in wal mart especially the grocery section that cost less at other large retailers.

Like I said before Costco dt hasn't hurt the "urban" fabric or Home Depot/best buy/future shop/winners/Cnd tire. These are all big box stores that are just like wal mart. I think it's unfair wal mart gets signalled out as the evil one. It's no more predatory than any other large nationl retail chain.

And if you think the community doesn't need a wal mart then ppl won't go to it and they will close it so whats your problem.

osirisboy · #**7244** Posted **Mar 27, 2014, 1:23 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by logan5

You got me there.

Just like people find driving everywhere a better choice for themselves.

Lol what?

spm2013 · #**7245** Posted **Mar 27, 2014, 1:26 AM**

....

Pinion · #**7246** Posted **Mar 27, 2014, 1:59 AM**

It horrifies me to sound like I'm defending it, but Wal Mart seemed to save Capilano Mall. It was dying a not-so-slow death before they moved in. People were travelling over the bridge just to go there before Vancouver finally allowed them within city limits.

But of course now no one wants any of the new retail on Marine Drive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by osirisboy

I think it's unfair wal mart gets signalled out as the evil one. It's no more predatory than any other large nationl retail chain.

This is not true. They use their domination to essentially blackmail sellers and undercut everyone else, which of course leads to more monopolization. Glorious free market, some might say, but they are definitely the most aggressive and a lot of the tactics they use should be illegal.

Tetsuo · #**7247** Posted **Mar 27, 2014, 4:47 AM**

A lot of Uptown New West's seniors are happy to have Wal Mart come in, lower prices for their fixed incomes and replacing the void Zellers left. The immigrants in the area already drive to Lougheed or Queensborough. Most of Sixth st. independent retail are restaurants/food places.

If anything the overpriced chain stores in the area are doing predatory pricing, with stores like the Source selling over priced tech to gullible seniors and immigrants. I for one welcome Wal Mart to the welcome. Eventually New West will develop a vibrant shopping district downtown along Columbia.

Denscity · #**7248** Posted **Mar 27, 2014, 6:16 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by osirisboy

Huh?? Can't small business owners also shop at wal mart for their supplies etc just like they do at Costco and thus save money. And Costco was always open to the public (with membership) not just to business owners

In the first years it was not open to the public no. And Costco has larger wholesale packs which a corner store for example could sell individually. Ie 24 packs of chocolate bars.

jlousa · #**7249** Posted **Mar 27, 2014, 6:34 AM**

I don't remember Costco not being open to the general public but I do remember Price Club required you to be a business owner.

osirisboy · #**7250** Posted **Mar 27, 2014, 3:01 PM**

The Costco was always open to the general public since the day it opened. And for that box of chocolate bars it's not that much cheaper if at all. You be better off going to no frills and buying them

dreambrother808 · #**7251** Posted **Mar 27, 2014, 4:50 PM**

St. John has finished relocating in the Hotel Vancouver.

My photo

SpongeG · #**7252** Posted **Mar 27, 2014, 4:56 PM**

does it have its own street entrance?

204 · #**7253** Posted **Mar 27, 2014, 6:16 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlousa

I don't remember Costco not being open to the general public but I do remember Price Club required you to be a business owner.

Quote:

Originally Posted by osirisboy

The Costco was always open to the general public since the day it opened.

Actually, Costco membership was originally limited to businesses and members of select groups (e.g. government employees).

Price Club merged with Costco in 1993, becoming PriceCostco. In 1997, PriceCostco became Costco Wholesale Corporation and all remaining Price Club stores were rebranded as Costco.

officedweller · #**7254** Posted **Mar 27, 2014, 9:14 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinion

It horrifies me to sound like I'm defending it, but Wal Mart seemed to save Capilano Mall. It was dying a not-so-slow death before they moved in. People were travelling over the bridge just to go there before Vancouver finally allowed them within city limits.

It's easier to get to from downtown than the Grandview store.
The grocery renos have really taken it from "Woolco" to a Wal-Mart Supercentre look.

osirisboy · #**7255** Posted **Mar 27, 2014, 9:16 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by 204

Actually, Costco membership was originally limited to businesses and members of select groups (e.g. government employees).

Price Club merged with Costco in 1993, becoming PriceCostco. In 1997, PriceCostco became Costco Wholesale Corporation and all remaining Price Club stores were rebranded as Costco.

Lol that's good but we are talking about the Costco downtown and it's effects on the surrounding urban area. Which since day one was always open to the general pop

connect2source · #**7256** Posted **Mar 28, 2014, 12:05 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreambrother808

St. John has finished relocating in the Hotel Vancouver.

No street entrance as far as I could tell. You enter through the hotel's Hornby Entrance and turn left, where Griffin's used to be. Good window presence, however. Hotel Vancouver's lobby is basically a mall now.

Vin · #**7257** Posted **Mar 28, 2014, 3:08 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by connect2source

No street entrance as far as I could tell. You enter through the hotel's Hornby Entrance and turn left, where Griffin's used to be. Good window presence, however. Hotel Vancouver's lobby is basically a mall now.

Without the presence of high-end malls, Hotel Vancouver is essentially a makeshift mini luxury mall. There is a demand for such a mall downtown (mostly wealthy immigrants who can afford) but then again we also have a city that is anti-mall (the locals and Council).

Conrad Yablonski · #**7258** Posted **Mar 28, 2014, 4:20 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetsuo

A lot of Uptown New West's seniors are happy to have Wal Mart come in, lower prices for their fixed incomes...

The whole point is that apart from a few select items Wal Mart is not cheaper at all- Tupperware aside their prices are no better than anywhere else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetsuo

If anything the overpriced chain stores in the area are doing predatory pricing, with stores like the Source selling over priced tech to gullible seniors and immigrants.

LOL!!

Just how many seniors do you know anyway?

And how much 'tech' do they buy regularly?

And those poor disenfranchised immigrants are in fact no such thing they have access to everything everyone else here has especially the internet for price checking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetsuo

I for one welcome Wal Mart....Eventually New West will develop a vibrant shopping district downtown along Columbia.

Another laugher-until New West replaces every elected civic official and most civic bureaucrats it will continue to be a pit of mediocrity.

SpongeG · #**7259** Posted **Mar 28, 2014, 4:53 PM**

a lot of the people in the area, seniors included don't drive so getting to queensborough isn't that easy, without a car queensborough must be a pain in the ass to get to, the bus stop is quite a hike into the stores, factor in bags etc. can turn into a day long adventure for some

i agree walmart isn't any cheaper but it is convenient

Tetsuo · #**7260** Posted **Mar 28, 2014, 6:05 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conrad Yablonski

The whole point is that apart from a few select items Wal Mart is not cheaper at all- Tupperware aside their prices are no better than anywhere else.

Compared to other stores (excluding dollar stores) in the neighbourhood, Wal Mart will be cheaper for clothes, plastic shit, store brand foods. (looking at you London Drugs)

Quote:

LOL!!

Just how many seniors do you know anyway?

And how much 'tech' do they buy regularly?

And those poor disenfranchised immigrants are in fact no such thing they have access to everything everyone else here has especially the internet for price checking.

Walk around the Uptown neighbourhood, a large chunk of the population = seniors, heck the large number of slow moving seniors makes it a scene out of the walking dead most afternoons. I personally avoid shopping in the neighbourhood as I don't have the patience to wait for the slow seniors walking around small aisle in stores and long line ups.

We're talking about a poorer class of working immigrants and seniors in this neighbourhood, Go into the stores that service the area (London Drugs, Shoppers, Save On(s)) and tell me that the residents of the area won't be better off with a Wal Mart.

Quote:

Another laugher-until New West replaces every elected civic official and most civic bureaucrats it will continue to be a pit of mediocrity.

I did say eventually