Millennium Line - Evergreen Extension | Completed

[xd_1771]

Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

Nice shots, thanks!

Interesting that they're using precast beams for this elevated segment. I guess it's not long enough to justify the cost of transporting and assembling the launching truss, or perhaps it's a scheduling issue with the truss not being able to be in two places at the same time (and therefore saving on the cost of a second one).

Man. The generation-over-generation improvements of precast beams. I can see the Expo Line out my window, but looking at this picture... My goodness they're so low profile that I'm drooling. mad.

I take it, it's a scheduling thing. The truss is the fastest way to get elevated segments in place..... but if you can get a perfectly acceptable precast job still going on at the same time elsewhere, you get double productivity of course

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by xd_1771

Man. The generation-over-generation improvements of precast beams. I can see the Expo Line out my window, but looking at this picture... My goodness they're so low profile that I'm drooling. mad.

What section of the Expo line are you looking at? The beams in the posted picture look pretty massive to me, in fact I was wondering if that was because this section is going to have a third storage track on it. Compare that to the Expo line that you can see, for example, from Google Street view where it descends to ground level along Vanness west of Nanaimo station. To me, the Expo line looks positively svelte by comparison.

[xd_1771]

Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

What section of the Expo line are you looking at? The beams in the posted picture look pretty massive to me, in fact I was wondering if that was because this section is going to have a third storage track on it. Compare that to the Expo line that you can see, for example, from Google Street view where it descends to ground level along Vanness west of Nanaimo station. To me, the Expo line looks positively svelte by comparison.

There were a few other pictures posted on their Facebok page, I'm pretty sure, that make it more evident.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by xd_1771

Man. The generation-over-generation improvements of precast beams. I can see the Expo Line out my window, but looking at this picture... My goodness they're so low profile that I'm drooling. mad.

I take it, it's a scheduling thing. The truss is the fastest way to get elevated segments in place..... but if you can get a perfectly acceptable precast job still going on at the same time elsewhere, you get double productivity of course

The other problem with using precast beams instead of segmental construction is the length of the beams. For the Expo Line, roads had to be closed off overnight to transport the beams.

[nname]

Comparing the columns at Lafarge Lake with the segment in Port Moody - seems like it might be using precast beams too?

[AverageJoe]

Thought I'd share a little tidbit of history that I managed to get as a souvenir. The following plans were from an unnamed bidder who was outbid for the Evergreen Line, i.e. this is NOT what's under construction right now. Perhaps in an alternate reality this is what they're building...?

Alternate universe Lougheed Station:


Polar-shifted Lougheed to Burquitlam section:


Ioco Station in the 12th Dimension:


Captain-Kirk-didn't-save-the-whales Coquitlam to Douglas section:

[officedweller]

Thanks for posting.

That plan would just make use of the existing Lougheed centre platform for all train movements (btw PPS = Propulsion Power Substation, not a platform) - presumably, the reason it would have been rejected is that it would not easily accommodate short-turning Millennium Line trains (from Braid) at Lougheed.

The Ioco Station would not have been as easily accessible from the residential to the northwest.

Glad Douglas didn't end up as single track.

[officedweller]

Nice pic of the guideway (that's looking east down Como Lake Road):

http://www.thenownews.com/sports/burquitlam-highrise-worries-neighbours-1.920819

[SFUVancouver]

^ I'll just go ahead and state the obvious: the gentleman in the photo already lives in a high-rise, either the 13 or 19 storey ones that are present beside the proposed site. What's going to get built is a higher high-rise; a 26 storey job.

[finalcoolman]

Originally Posted by AverageJoe

Thought I'd share a little tidbit of history that I managed to get as a souvenir. The following plans were from an unnamed bidder who was outbid for the Evergreen Line, i.e. this is NOT what's under construction right now. Perhaps in an alternate reality this is what they're building...?

Alternate universe Lougheed Station:


Polar-shifted Lougheed to Burquitlam section:


Ioco Station in the 12th Dimension:


Captain-Kirk-didn't-save-the-whales Coquitlam to Douglas section:

That was the Kiewit bid, thank God they were disqualified early.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

^ I'll just go ahead and state the obvious: the gentleman in the photo already lives in a high-rise, either the 13 or 19 storey ones that are present beside the proposed site. What's going to get build is a higher high-rise; a 26 storey job.

Not all NIMBYs live in SFHs.

[dpogue]

Article on VancityBuzz about the TBM: http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2014/03/photos-skytrain-evergreen-lines-massive-tunnel-boring-machine/

[queetz@home]

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

^ I'll just go ahead and state the obvious: the gentleman in the photo already lives in a high-rise, either the 13 or 19 storey ones that are present beside the proposed site. What's going to get built is a higher high-rise; a 26 storey job.

The issue here is NO DIFFERENT than what happened to the Exchange Tower vs the Jaimeson residents.

In most places of the globe, if you buy a condo unit that is facing another property rather than the street, there will always be the possibility that the property can be re-developed into another high rise that will block your view. That is why I personally would only buy condo units facing the street (even if the property across the street gets developed, there is still ample space for a healthy gap).

Only in Metro Vancouver that I see condo dwellers complaining about how adjacent private properties be developed and how it would affect *their* views. The whole notion is silly and wreaks of self entitlement and NIMBYism. Unfortunately, in the case of the Exchange, the NIMBY Jaimeson residents won and this resulted in one of the ugliest office buildings I've ever seen now being built (instead of the architecturally stunning original).

It remains to be seen if residents of that Burquitlam highrise will receive any special treatment. The precedence is there, and if Beedie wins, it will be very interesting....

[idunno]

Here's the link to the proposal if anyone's interested. Looks pretty good IMO: http://www.brookpooni.com/pdf/1397%20OH%20Boards%202014-01-24.pdf

[SFUVancouver]

^ Based on the materials on those display boards, the guy in the photo must live in the taller of the two towers, the 19 storey one. Also, the Burquitlam SkyTrain station is conveniently hidden by the guy's right shoulder. He's going to be a gruff gus when he discovers that Beedie Living is just the first to market in the Burquitlam Station precinct; there will be plenty more coming soon. I guess technically the guy's home is actually part of the first high-rise development to market in the station area, and I'm sure his single family home neighbours welcomed his tower with open arms, but that's just salt in the wound.

[204]

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

^ I'll just go ahead and state the obvious: the gentleman in the photo already lives in a high-rise, either the 13 or 19 storey ones that are present beside the proposed site. What's going to get built is a higher high-rise; a 26 storey job.

Seems like a case of high-rises for me but not for thee...

[jsbertram]

Originally Posted by 204

Seems like a case of high-rises for me but not for thee...

Are we surprised that he hasn't figured out that the new building will block some of the noise of the Skytrain rolling by every few minutes starting Summer 2016?

[hollywoodnorth]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Nice pic of the guideway (that's looking east down Como Lake Road):

http://www.thenownews.com/sports/burquitlam-highrise-worries-neighbours-1.920819

"He suggested the tower runs the risk of “destabilizing the community” and cited concerns around a loss of privacy, and the potential for a handful of mature trees being cut down." - Patrick Quail

wow I wonder what he had to say about the Skytrain station? oh wait that would raise property values .....

[hollywoodnorth]

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

^ Based on the materials on those display boards, the guy in the photo must live in the taller of the two towers, the 19 storey one. Also, the Burquitlam SkyTrain station is conveniently hidden by the guy's right shoulder. He's going to be a gruff gus when he discovers that Beedie Living is just the first to market in the Burquitlam Station precinct; there will be plenty more coming soon. I guess technically the guy's home is actually part of the first high-rise development to market in the station area, and I'm sure his single family home neighbours welcomed his tower with open arms, but that's just salt in the wound.

Patrick Quail ... whata guy!

[vanman]

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

He's going to be a gruff gus when he discovers that Beedie Living is just the first to market in the Burquitlam Station precinct; there will be plenty more coming soon.

Actually Uptown by Bosa is already previewing.


http://bosaproperties.com/uptown/

The writing is on the wall.