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Old Posted Mar 24, 2014, 12:09 AM
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Did they the crown is still part of the plan?

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Thanks. I second mistermetAJ's question.
Of course it is. Why wouldn't it be?
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2014, 1:12 AM
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Of course it is. Why wouldn't it be?
Its a different design than all of those renderings posted on the board. If babybackrib can verify that the new design has a crown, it would be great.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2014, 3:23 AM
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How could someone mess up the DOB like that. Hopefully they were fired for getting all of our hopes up

I really hope they didn't change the design though because this building looked amazing in that first rendering.
     
     
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http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2014/05/condo-towers-architecture-new-york-city

Too Rich, Too Thin, Too Tall?


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Barnett’s success with One57 left other developers to play catch-up. He himself has been so emboldened by One57 that he decided to try to do it again only a block away, in a building at 225 West 57th Street that will have a Nordstrom department store at its base. (One57 will have a Park Hyatt hotel on its lower floors.) The Nordstrom tower, which is being designed by the Chicago architects Adrian Smith and Gordon Gill, will also be of glass, but more angular in shape than One57. And Steven Roth, of Vornado, another of the city’s most active developers, has hired Robert A. M. Stern, the apostle of traditional architecture who designed 15 Central Park West, to do a super-tall tower at 220 Central Park South, just north of Barnett’s Nordstrom tower. The early renderings for the Vornado tower show a thinner, more elongated version of his Central Park West building, mimicking the style of the past but recasting it into a shape that is very much of the present.

The Vornado project and the new Extell project almost prevented each other from happening. In a sequence of events that makes clear how much New York real estate is part blood sport, part chess game, and part absurdist farce, Barnett had begun assembling the site for his building in 2005, the same year that Roth purchased an old rental apartment building at 220 Central Park South as a future development site.

Barnett realized that if Roth put up a tall building on his Central Park South site it would block the all-important park views from his own site immediately to the south. So Barnett managed, without Roth’s knowledge, to purchase the lease for the Vornado building’s parking garage along with a small parcel in the middle of the larger development site. For more than seven years he refused to give them up, preventing Roth from redeveloping the site even after he had bought out the apartment tenants and cleared the building to prepare for its demolition. Roth sued Barnett to try to evict him from the garage, to no avail.

The deadlock lasted until last fall, when, unwilling to sacrifice the vast profits that each was preventing the other from realizing, the men made a deal under which Vornado paid Extell $194 million for its parcel and some additional development rights and agreed to shift the site of the Stern-designed tower to the western edge of the Central Park South site. In exchange, Barnett agreed to push his tower slightly to the east, giving it a more or less open view to the park. One catch: the shift meant that the Extell tower would now be cantilevered over one of the city’s most distinguished landmarks, the Art Students League.
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More of the same....neck and neck with Nordstrom...


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How could someone mess up the DOB like that. Hopefully they were fired for getting all of our hopes up

I really hope they didn't change the design though because this building looked amazing in that first rendering.
The massing diagram indicates a changed design which matches the photo displayed on site. Unless confirmed by someone in the know about his project, I wouldn't expect a crown, and certainly not the one from the renderings.
     
     
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Construction Update: 220 Central Park South
BY: NIKOLAI FEDAK ON MAY 2ND 2014 AT 1:00 PM


220 Central Park South, photo by Andrew McKeon

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New documents filed with the DOB shed additional light on 220 Central Park South, confirming the smaller portion of the development — which will be situated on Central Park South, while the ‘tower’ will be located on 58th Street — will stand 15 stories. The building will share many characteristics with its distantly catty-corner neighbor at 15 Central Park West, but the proportions at 220 are significantly more slender, and will likely lend themselves to the most expensive residences in Manhattan.

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217 West 57th Street and 220 Central Park South, photo by Andrew McKeon, click for larger version
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Manhattan is a natural wonder, all you see is bedrock in that shot of both sites. I pity the people living next to both sites in this case. Must be noisy at times.
     
     
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The massing diagram indicates a changed design which matches the photo displayed on site. Unless confirmed by someone in the know about his project, I wouldn't expect a crown, and certainly not the one from the renderings.
It's beginning to make sense now -- I've looked at the massing diagram/rendering on site and have agreed with your statement. It's a shame really if the beautiful crown was removed.... I mean it would just be a lame box without it
     
     
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It's beginning to make sense now -- I've looked at the massing diagram/rendering on site and have agreed with your statement. It's a shame really if the beautiful crown was removed.... I mean it would just be a lame box without it
There is no "beautiful crown removed". The rendering has always had a crown, and has never been a "box".
     
     
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There is no "beautiful crown removed". The rendering has always had a crown, and has never been a "box".
The onsite rendeting does not look the same as the original renderings that we had. Hopefully you are right, but I havent seen an indication of a crown for this project. Its a Stern so im sure he'll have a nice treatment at the top regardless.
     
     
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You can get some 220 action in this clip as well....


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Robert A.M. Stern’s Limestone Skyscraper at 220 Central Park South Poised to Make One57 Residents Wildly Jealous




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But while 57th Street may be the new billionaire’s row, no matter how many blingy towers rise along it, there’s no denying that Central Park South is the better addresses.


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I agree. CPS is a better address if you own an apartment on the low-rise portion of 220. But if you have an apartment on the 950' tower then there is no denying 58th street is the better addresses.
     
     
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Old Posted May 20, 2014, 11:12 PM
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Copycat condo? A mystery at Robert A.M. Stern’s 220 Central Park South.





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If I was Arthur or Will Zeckendorf, I’d want to sue somebody. In the run-up to the publication of House of Outrageous Fortune, I saw but didn’t dwell on a scoop on curbed.com revealing renderings of Fifteen Central Park West architect Robert A.M. Stern’s design for competing developer Vornado’s new 220 Central Park South condominium, just a block and a bit away. (The renderings have since vanished from the web site of Australia’s Sunlab Architecture , but they’re archived on curbed and sampled at right and below).

Stern’s hiring for that project was first revealed on Gripepad two years ago this week. Now, a knowledgeable source tells me that Fifteen’s developers were livid that Stern had offered up another two-structure apartment house with a low front building and a tower behind (like 15), a motor courtyard entered from a side street (like 15′s), another reflecting pool and round fountain (yep, 15 has one of each), and 220 is clad in limestone, too. Even if imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, this vision of 220 CPS could be easily nicknamed the House of Outrageous Plagiarism.

Neither Arthur nor Will Zeckendorf would comment on the record, but a source at Zeckendorf Development says they’ve been told that Vornado used images based on 15CPW while seeking financing for its building, and that the final design will be “totally different.”

Asked for comment, Stern’s spokesman responded, “I know what we’re saying: The leaked renderings do not represent the design as it’s developing.” Pressed to clarify, he continued, “You’re trying to get me to say more than I can say.”


He did add that Stern’s role at 220CPS might be in flux, too. “Another firm might be involved, but not in the architecture.” He also said, “Ask Vornado.” But Vornado’s spokeswoman declined to comment.


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This doesn't sound promising unfortunately. I liked the Art Deco design of this one.
     
     
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