Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 3

[Future Mayor]

Old & New, I would definitely prefer to see a second hotel go up across from RWP on 200 S, rather than the Arrow Press Square location, I really want to see that redeveloped as is. I used APS as an example simply because in a prior post I had mentioned the fact that the owners of APS aren't talking to potential buyers because they feel that they are a prime location for the CCH, and have been waiting for years for movement on the funding. I hope they see now that the funding is reliant on additional convention space and that there is no way that can be accomplished on their parcels. Hopefully they will sell to someone that is interested in rehabbing the existing buildings.

I love Arrow Press Square and I think it has huge potential as a unique area of the city. Several years ago Projects posted some renderings of the SLC Narrows or something like that. It included Arrow Press Square and the majority of the west end of that block, with small passage ways lined with shops and residences. I would love to see this develop, while including Arrow Press Square. Obviously there are things that would have to be different but I like the overall concept. I think the main thing that would have to occur to even come close to making this a reality is a pedestrian access from W. Temple to Main, along the corridor pictured in the second set of images, maybe even a second corridor on the south side of APS.



The following is from a post by SLC Projects back on Dec 12, 2009

This was on the news last night. I thought it would be a great idea for downtown SLC.

University of Utah students see new life in ‘City Narrows'
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=9044344

SALT LAKE CITY -- Plenty of people steer clear of the alleyways of downtown Salt Lake City; but what if you had a good reason to explore those forgotten and ignored areas?

Fifteen University of Utah architecture and planning students put their talents to work to come up with designs to make those dead areas dazzling. The project is called The City Narrows, and it aims to attract people to the alleys.

Here are some examples
Before


After


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After

[Scraperdude801]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

Old & New, I would definitely prefer to see a second hotel go up across from RWP on 200 S, rather than the Arrow Press Square location, I really want to see that redeveloped as is. I used APS as an example simply because in a prior post I had mentioned the fact that the owners of APS aren't talking to potential buyers because they feel that they are a prime location for the CCH, and have been waiting for years for movement on the funding. I hope they see now that the funding is reliant on additional convention space and that there is no way that can be accomplished on their parcels. Hopefully they will sell to someone that is interested in rehabbing the existing buildings.

I love Arrow Press Square and I think it has huge potential as a unique area of the city. I believe several years ago somebody, maybe Urban Boy) posted some renderings of the SLC Narrows or something like that. It included Arrow Press Square and the majority of the west end of that block, with small passage ways lined with shops and residences. Does anyone else remember that?

Future Mayor, yes I remember the Narrows idea. Very cool idea, with a great reuse of some very interesting and old part of town.

[scottharding]

Well, the Zion curtain will remain. Just in time for them to have to build them in the eateries that will be in and around the new Convention Center hotel, I guess.

And this article won't help public opinion on who really runs things in Utah:

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/57670596-90/curtain-restaurants-zion-powell.html.csp

[StevenF]

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[jimmycdii]

I absolutely love that City Narrows idea.

On Arrow Press: a few months ago, on two different occasions, one of the doors was unlocked so I went inside and wandered around for a while. It was really run down. Like, to the point where it seemed unsalvageable. I hate saying that because I love that building, but after going inside I have a hard time imagining them saving anything but the facade.

On the other hand, I'm not a contractor or an engineer, so maybe I'm wrong. I hope so.

[CountyLemonade]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

I could die a happy man if this ever materialized in Salt Lake.

[AllOutOfBubbleGum]

I'm not confident my picture will post, but lets start with one and go from there. This is the Hyatt House on 100 S 300 W

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tcj3qtovioyeljv/20140312_124906.jpg

[AllOutOfBubbleGum]

OK I really didn't want to have these super sized photo's take up the whole browser space. But the usual dropbox link ain't linking so I will display the really big link. And this is not me over compensating for anything.

If I'm doing something wrong other then [IMG]http here[/IMG] then I don't know my HTML as good as I thought. This is the parking garage in the back of the Hyatt











As I was about to leave I noticed they are placing foundation footings down for what should be the Marriott. I wasn't aware they had been given the green light. Then again it might be for something else. And again I apologize for the over sized pics, got to get back to work.

[bflatflat9]

Originally Posted by CountyLemonade

I could die a happy man if this ever materialized in Salt Lake.

This is awesome east coast gentrification.
Yes, I remember this idea a few years back.
So what would it take for something like this to get done.
Who owns the land,etc.
I'm sure that if a developer proved that they were ready and able to pull this
off, that any zoning problem could be overcome.

[Future Mayor]

Some of the obstacles may be as follows;

Multiple owners of the various parcels. Of the parcels on either side of the E/W narrow there are 7 different owners. The former DV8 and the Arrow Press Square building have different owners.

Getting 100 S building owners to embrace a second retail front on Arrow Press Alley(that's not the actual name I just named it that) while still allowing for deliveries to their buildings.

There is currently a building on the south end of Dinwoody Plaza, that would need to be removed, in order to allow for a corridor to connect to Main St.

Getting pedestrian access to Main St through the Zions Bank owned parking lot.


The positives:
The City owns Dinwoody Plaza and I'm sure would welcome a better connection to the Plaza.

There is plenty of space to accommodate multiple pedestrian walkways.


To make it welcoming and viable, there would need to be plenty of lighting in the corridors, clean site lines and residential and retail access from the corridors.

Maybe something along these lines.
Red = existing building
Blue = new construction
Purple = pedestrian corridors.



Obviously it would have to be incorporated into whatever is eventually developed on the Zions Bank parking lot, including one connection to Main St and one to 100 S.

[SL,UT]

Originally Posted by scottharding

Well, the Zion curtain will remain. Just in time for them to have to build them in the eateries that will be in and around the new Convention Center hotel, I guess.

And this article won't help public opinion on who really runs things in Utah:

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/57670596-90/curtain-restaurants-zion-powell.html.csp

Is anyone surprised by this at all? LD$ Inc has our senators by the strings. I just hope this won't discourage new restaurants from opening up.
Well at least the church can't make me put up a Zion Curtain in my house....
Me: 1 Corporation: 0

[CountyLemonade]

Originally Posted by bflatflat9

This is awesome east coast gentrification.

I dunno about that if the area's already pretty wealthy.

[Makid]

Another Update for the CCH:

The House has concurred with the Senate Amendment passing it 49-23-3. It now goes back to the Senate. As they passed it with the amendment, I think all they need to do is update their status and it goes to the Governor for signing.

Someone with more knowledge may be able to fill in or adjust my understanding of the process remaining.

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Edit...

Based on the following link: http://le.utah.gov/asp/passedbills/passedbills.asp?Session=2014GS&SortType=passdate

HB0356S01 New Convention Facility Development Incentive Provisions Wilson, B. 3/12/2014

The bill has been passed. So I guess it is off to the Governor now.

[SLC Projects]

Finally.

Now hopefully the Governor signs it tomorrow.

[Ironweed]

Hi, I am new to the board. My Moniker is after a movie and not what I smoke.

I enjoy this thread generally, and seeing the update on growth in SLC.

One of the themes I see repeated frequently is the desire for a new tallest. I am among that group, but could the reason that we have not seen beyond what we have is due to the lake sediments which the city stands on, and earthquake risks? Maybe this has been covered in the past. I would appreciate other viewpoints on this.

In addition, I am involved in private equity. We have several million dollars available for distressed commercial real estate. I would be happy to discuss via PM for those who may be interested in learning more.

[delts145]

Convention hotel bill passes Utah Legislature

Majorie Cortez, Deseret News

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865598539/Convention-hotel-bill-passes-Utah-Legislature.html

SALT LAKE CITY — A convention hotel in downtown Salt Lake City became closer to reality Wednesday after the Utah Legislature passed a substitute version of HB356.


Ravell Call, Deseret News

Under the bill, the privately developed hotel would include public meeting space. The developer would be repaid for fronting the construction of the meeting space with sales tax rebates if the facility meets certain performance benchmarks.

The developer would receive tax rebates capped at $75 million over 20 years...



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[delts145]

I ran across this pic this morning, and was reminded of how far SLC has come in the past twenty years. I imagine this pic was taken in the 80's, but even just before the Olympic buildup, this is pretty much a prime example.


http://www.railpixs.com

[brankrom]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

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Something like this needs to happen, to have those eyesores across the street from the Salt Palace is terrible, and it's looked like that for at least 20 years.

I've always wondered what that building is on the SE corner of West Temple and 100 South, it looks like an old building but the street engagement is terrible. Some signage to designate what businesses if any are located in there would help. As it is it looks like a filler building on a movie set. I guess at least its not a parking lot. Seems like a prime location for a bar... if only.

[brankrom]

Originally Posted by delts145

I ran across this pic this morning, and was reminded of how far SLC has come in the past twenty years. I imagine this pic was taken in the 80's, but even just before the Olympic buildup, this is pretty much a prime example.


http://www.railpixs.com

I remember when it looked like that, I had just bought my first house in Glendale a few blocks west and was excited for the redevelopment. Hopefully Gateway will become viable again because as it is, there are lots of empty storefronts. I go there at least once a month for a vendor lunches and there were just about as many people milling around as depicted in that 30 year old picture. (FWIW Fleming's was terrible hopefully it was just because it was a prifixe lunch). I hope the developments to the west creates something.

The Gateway needs some real help, otherwise its going to be another Trolley Square. (ETA: at least Trolley has a grocery store)

[Comrade]

I think Gateway is proving Salt Lake can't handle two major retail centers within blocks of each other. It's why they need to reinvent themselves as more than just a outdoor mall. I keep pushing the idea that this area could be SLC's nightlife hub. But that'll require some changes in the liquor license laws and a bigger push from the government to create a club/bar scene.