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Old Posted Feb 16, 2014, 12:31 AM
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2014, 5:03 PM
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2014, 7:43 PM
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Thanks for that detail - salt 'n pepper brick! Love it.

Anyone know what the courtyard will be like? Any water features?
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Will be very interesting seeing a white brick building.
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Thanks for that detail - salt 'n pepper brick! Love it.

Anyone know what the courtyard will be like? Any water features?
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2014, 8:30 PM
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Not a very inspiring courtyard. Seesh...
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What the what? The courtyard is raised up off the street level and fenced off, and then, a few feet further in, it's gated again?
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2014, 1:15 AM
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What the what? The courtyard is raised up off the street level and fenced off, and then, a few feet further in, it's gated again?
Well, there does need to be a railing at the edge of the dock...plus there is a huge accessible ramp concealed in there.

That said it's a little odd in its organization.
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This courtyard and raised porch is terrible. I can't believe it survived design review.

The porch is dead and fenced off from everything. Most of these raised docks on 13th lead to doors and shops while this dock has no reason to exist other than as a ramp and cattle chute to the courtyard- there will never be people hanging out there.

The courtyard is equally uninviting with its gate which is either locked or suggests that people should stay out- so unlike most of the north pearl courtyards with invite or allow people to wander through.
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I was walking by the Lexus the other day (across the street from Tanner Springs) and noticed that its courtyard is even worse: it presents a completely blank wall to the street; the courtyard itself is up on the second floor. But at least the Lexus has retail - will the Parker?
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2014, 12:48 AM
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I agree that the Lexus has a similar and poorly designed courtyard.

I think the Parker has no retail which is unfortunate. Block 17 has retail and live work flex units and the Overton will have some retail.
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2014, 1:14 AM
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Thanks for this render...
Definitely does not look very inviting... "Let's through some greenery everywhere and call it landscaping!"

I've always admired the 10th@Hoyt courtyard for its Zen-like tranquilty..



I just wish the gates didn't make it feel so forbidden.
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I agree that the Lexus has a similar and poorly designed courtyard.

I think the Parker has no retail which is unfortunate. Block 17 has retail and live work flex units and the Overton will have some retail.
The problem is that far north, I am afraid the retail will remain empty. A lot of retail in the ASA and the Wyatt has never been filled as it is. These buildings will help, but the further north you go it gets more to the remote edge you would have to have a destination retailer of some sort to draw people all the way down. I say less retail in these building. I would love an active street level, but better have something useful than empty storefronts.
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2014, 10:46 PM
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I agree about the challenge with retail this far north.

Block 17 is including quite a few flex units than can be residential street level lofts with porches and these can be converted to office or retail in the future if the demand is there.
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The problem is that far north, I am afraid the retail will remain empty. A lot of retail in the ASA and the Wyatt has never been filled as it is. These buildings will help, but the further north you go it gets more to the remote edge you would have to have a destination retailer of some sort to draw people all the way down. I say less retail in these building. I would love an active street level, but better have something useful than empty storefronts.
I disagree, I think as the Pearl expands northward, there is going to come a time these retail spots will be needed and it is easier to design for them from the beginning.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2014, 5:21 AM
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More detailed drawings of the 9-story building to replace the Cash and Carry. This building is directly south of the Ramona and due west of the Parker.

Warning - 162mb pdf!
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2014, 7:04 AM
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I have a question for those who know more about the economics of development than I do.

I'd always heard that it said that it's uneconomical to do buildings between 7 and ~20 (?) floors in the US. At 6 floors or below, you can do light wood framing over a concrete deck, and we see a lot of those going up in Portland. Above that, building codes require switching to a steel or concrete frame, but this is supposedly so expensive a change that it only make sense when you're doing a fairly tall building. Yet this development is 9 stories above grade, with a concrete frame. So how have they made it stack up financially?

Also, not a huge surprise, but they've dropped the swimming pool idea.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2014, 4:30 PM
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I really like it!
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I pulled some pics out for those who did not want to download a 162MB file. The proposal for the soon-to-be-former Cash and Carry in the Pearl.





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