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Old Posted Feb 13, 2014, 3:42 PM
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Councillors are asking for a separate meeting, presentation specifically dedicated to possible transit improvements.

Looks like there is support for transit improvements on Mountain, but debate won't happen until next meeting. I'll post date soon
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express on king/main/cannon/barton with loops that cross them n/s seem to be the best way to service everyone. But the key is really fast headways on the expresses so that tranfers are not showstoppers anymore.
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Councillors are asking for a separate meeting, presentation specifically dedicated to possible transit improvements.

Looks like there is support for transit improvements on Mountain, but debate won't happen until next meeting. I'll post date soon
It would be good if Don Hull could use this extra time to get his numbers right, re: the B-Line numbers.
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Date isn't confirmed yet, but councillors will meet for a presentation dedicated to transit service upgrades later this month.
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Wasn't the biggest drop in transit use after the big strike in 97 or 98? It went on for three months and people just figured out how to get by without it.
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Wasn't the biggest drop in transit use after the big strike in 97 or 98? It went on for three months and people just figured out how to get by without it.
There was a strike back in the late eighties that started the decline. The strike in the 90's was hardly noticed in comparison.
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Question... I have $40 on my presto card, am I able to pay for myself and a friend to get on the HSR or will it only recognize one tap?
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You can but you have to ask the driver to set it first. I'm also not sure how transfers work after that but once again, ask the driver. I've paid two fares on it before.
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From the run-up to the last election.


Fixing HSR problems on hold until next year
(CATCH, Aug 10, 2010)

A proposal to fix problems with HSR service is on hold until next year. Transit director Don Hull hopes to start using federal gas tax funds to end overcrowding that is frequently leaving people behind at bus stops.

Hamilton is only one of two large cities which do not use federal gas tax monies for transit. Hull is calling for a shift of $3 million of these funds – out of the city’s $32 million annual allocation – to increase service on some HSR routes and take an initial step towards meeting the approved objectives of the city’s master transportation plan – but a council decision last week means no changes are likely before late 2011....


Ferguson noted the proposed priority service changes were all in the former city of Hamilton, but the federal gas taxes are currently being used for projects across the entire city.

“I didn’t see anything in the route enhancements in the suburban municipalities,” he noted. “It’s kind of a neat way to move $3 million from capital in the air, and then replenish the capital by going out to all municipalities, and yet the suburban municipalities aren’t benefitting at all.”

Waterdown councillor Margaret McCarthy suggested more transit is needed in her ward, and Dave Mitchell pointed to rising demands in Binbrook. Hull replied that those requests are among “three or four hundred items on the list” that HSR would like to address if it had more funds.

“We simply cut the list off at $3 million. There’s $30 million worth of requested enhancements behind the scenes here.”


....This year’s budget allocates a third of Hamilton’s $32 million federal gas tax share to city hall renovations, and most of the rest to roads. Because the city’s population now exceeds 500,000 it will be limited in future to choosing just two categories, and an earlier council decision has identified those will be roads and transit.

A staff survey of other cities over 500,000 found only one besides Hamilton that currently doesn’t use any federal gas tax monies for transit.

“We canvassed every municipality, and only Durham and Hamilton aren’t using federal gas tax to supplement their transit program,” Hull explained to councillors. “Durham had one project in particular that they committed all of their federal gas tax to. Some municipalities in the GTA committed 100 percent of their federal gas tax to their transit programs.”

The provincial government also distributes gas tax monies to municipalities. Hamilton will get just shy of $11 million next year, a drop of $800,000 since the program began in 2004 because the city is falling behind other Ontario localities in both population and transit ridership. The formula used by the province to divvy up the funds is weighted 70 percent to ridership and 30 percent to population.

Just under $4 million of the provincial monies are being spent on already implemented HSR service improvements while $1.75 million is being used by DARTS. Council allocated an additional $2.6 million “in lieu of a fare increase” proposed in 2005.

The remaining $3 million is currently spent on bus purchases. If Hull’s proposal is eventually accepted, that would be replaced by the federal gas tax monies – which can only be used for capital projects, not operating expenses.
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Question... I have $40 on my presto card, am I able to pay for myself and a friend to get on the HSR or will it only recognize one tap?
Just tell the driver you're paying for both of you. You have to tap twice - first on the large green Presto thing then on the terminal by the driver's seat. Your friend will get a paper transfer and yours is on the card.
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Just tell the driver you're paying for both of you. You have to tap twice - first on the large green Presto thing then on the terminal by the driver's seat. Your friend will get a paper transfer and yours is on the card.
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McMaster and city collide over campus bus ban
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By: Matthew Van Dongen

McMaster wants to ban transit drop-offs in front of the children's hospital, saying heavy city buses have caused $1 million in damage to underground medical facilities and choked a kids' clinic with diesel fumes.

But city councillors called on the university Thursday to maintain the bus loop on its property, arguing an alternative drop-off on the far side of Main Street West is not as safe or convenient for riders seeking medical help.

"That's not acceptable to us," said Ward 1 Councillor Brian McHattie, who moved a motion with the request after the general issues committee learned the university has told the HSR to stop using the bus and ambulance loop in front of the hospital by May 1.

HSR director Don Hull told councillors it will be costly for the city to find another bus turnaround site, noting many routes serve the university. He added the change would mean off-loading another 1,000 riders a day on the south side of Main, forcing them to cross what is already one of the city's busiest intersections.

The university doesn't have a choice, said McMaster vice-president Roger Couldrey, because the city's increasingly heavy articulated buses are ruining the roof and waterproof membrane that protects a hospital pharmacy and co-generation plant hidden beneath the bus loop.

"We're happy to continue discussions with the city, but something has to be done (about the damage) as soon as possible," he said, adding repairs will close the loop in May.

The hospital is also fielding complaints about diesel fumes wafting into a pediatric clinic and congestion caused by ambulances, patient vehicles and buses, said vice-president of corporate services Kelly Campbell.

She noted the hospital is the only one in the city with front-door drop-off and added she doesn't consider the nearby Main Street intersection crossing dangerous.

"We absolutely value public transit," Campbell said. "There are a lot of people who cross there now very safely and they should continue to cross safely."

She said while some people get to the hospital on buses, the "vast majority" of riders arriving nearby are students heading to the university.

Both Couldrey and Hull said the discussion about a potential new bus loop dates back years — so far, with no agreement on an alternative university site. Hull said the city has also looked in the past, unsuccessfully, to buy property in the area.

A detailed city report on the issue is expected within a week or two, he added.

McHattie's committee motion must be ratified in two weeks.

The committee also put off a decision on $2.6 million in potential transit service upgrades to a meeting in March.
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i guess LRT wouldn't help eh?
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Light Rail Generates Highest Return on Investment: Transport Minister

Published March 03, 2014

In a lunchtime talk last Friday, Ontario Transport Minister Glen Murray stopped just short of telling Hamilton we'd be crazy not to invest in Light Rail Transit (LRT).

Speaking at a luncheon at Sarcoa Restaurant organized by the Hamilton Chamber of Commerce, Murray presented an evidence-based case for investment in great civic infrastructure, explaining that beautiful, well-made infrastructure in the right locations delivers tremendous returns on investment.

Murray was in Hamilton to announce that the Province has put out a tender to build a $44 million GO Train station on James Street North, across the street from Liuna Station.

LRT Generates Economic Development

Murray extolled the economic benefits of LRT, pointing out that it produces a much higher return on investment than bus rapid transit (BRT) by attracting new private developments around the line.

He demurred, "I am not endorsing types of technology here, I am not a salesperson for Bombardier." Then he added that the City has "been working on a plan that is both an economic development plan, a cultural plan, a fiscal plan and a transportation plan" - the city's Rapid Ready LRT plan for the east-west B-Line between McMaster University and Eastgate Square.

Murray put up an image of Portland, Oregon's LRT system with new economic development around the line. "Portland was a lumber town that went into deep decline and depopulated. Portland now has the highest per capita GDP on the west coast. It has not one Fortune 500 company, not one. It is home to more small and medium enterprises than any other. You know, as Mayor Sam [Adams] in Portland says, people go to Los Angeles to get rich, they come to Portland to be prosperous."

(This reflected Murray's earlier comments on the Bill Kelly Show on AM 900 CHML on Friday morning, in which he noted that BRT does not attract much economic development.)

Attracting Young People

Murray noted that the job recovery in Ontario is driven by small, entrepreneurial companies being started by young people with university and college educations. Pointing to Portland's LRT, he said, "This is the kind of infrastructure that you need to attract that young creative class.

"This is the first generation where most young people don't want to own cars and are not owning cars. So walkable friendly neighbourhoods are also important." The audience applauded.

"You can see how the urban landscape changes around these kinds of things, and we can talk about GO or bus rapid transit or LRT, but you can see the dynamic of this environment." One problem is that we don't have local examples of modern LRT systems. New systems are being built in Kitchener-Waterloo, Ottawa and on Eglinton Avenue in Toronto, but many people don't know what to expect and are afraid of the unknown.

Talking about LRT in other parts of the world he said, "Every place that's done it, once there's one up everyone wants more of it."

Local Leadership

Murray then pointed out that it takes "local leadership" to make the decision on how and where to invest. He said it is not up to Queen's Park to tell Hamilton's leaders what to choose.

However, he went on to show how cities can calculate the economic uplift that comes from LRT investment. He often reiterated that to make good decisions, cities need to focus not just on the cost of a project but on the return on investment.

After the talk, Murray noted that transit investment in economically depressed urban corridors produces the biggest uplift because there's so much potential for improvement.

He said that he would be willing to go with Hamilton's leaders to Ottawa to ask for a Federal contribution to Hamilton's rapid transit system, noting that the Federal government will not contribute to an infrastructure project that has already been announced.

He also noted that tax-increment financing (TIF) is one way to help cover the capital cost of a public infrastructure project without imposing any burden on the property tax levy, based on the future value of the economic uplift that comes from the project.

Innovation Economy

During his talk, Murray also drew a parallel to Pittsburgh, another city whose economy was formerly based on steel that has reinvented itself and rebuilt its tax base around education and creative entrepreneurialism.

Like Hamilton, Pittsburgh still makes lots of steel but it is no longer a significant source of jobs. Manufacturing by itself has stopped being a significant source of jobs. Rather, employment is growing in the innovation economy, which cities need to cultivate through post-secondary education and great civic infrastructure.

"If you're actually going to have job growth and not just GDP growth, you have to open it up, and that's why universities and colleges are the single most important cultural, social and economic institutions in our society today," he said.

Citizens, not Whiners

A recurring theme in his talk was a sharp distinction between thinking and acting as citizens - people who are invested in their country and community and want to work for its betterment - as opposed to mere "taxpayers" or "consumers".

He spoke about the construction of the beautiful High Level Bridge as an inspiring example of the understanding that "making beauty necessary and making necessity beautiful was important, and that our public works shouldn't be, you know, stretching tax dollars so far that every GO station, every college, every library looks like a fertilizer factory. But we are manifesting in our public works, in our public buildings, the expression of our civic pride and great design."

Before the 1970s, which Murray characterized as the beginning of "the age of whiners", civic leaders understood that beautiful cities attract and retain passionate people. "They built a city that people want to live in and be part of."

Murray attacked the "taxpayer" meme head-on, pointing out, "I pay about 25 percent less taxes than my father did." At the time, Canada spent 5 percent of its gross domestic product (GDP) on infrastructure. "That's how all those buildings got built."

He went on, "Then in the 1970s, that great age of citizenship [got] took over by the age of whiners." Provincial infrastructure spending dropped to just 0.25 percent of GDP.

He said the government has now restored infrastructure spending to 2 percent of GDP. "We built everything in this country that we own and love with that level of commitment."

Local Leaders Missing

It was disheartening to note that, aside from Mayor Bob Bratina, there were only four out of 15 City Councillors in attendance: Ward 1 Councillor Brian McHattie, Ward 2 Councillor Jason Farr, Ward 3 Councillor Bob Morrow and Ward 15 Councillor Judi Partridge.

Mayor Bob Bratina, front, with Councillors Jason Farr (left) and Bob Morrow (right) behind him (Image Credit: Richard Allen)
Mayor Bob Bratina, front, with Councillors Jason Farr (left) and Bob Morrow (right) behind him (Image Credit: Richard Allen)

For those members of council who don't already understand that LRT is a necessary investment in economic development and sustainability rather than merely an expensive bus, Murray's talk would have been highly informative.

Also notably absent were any senior managers from Public Works, the department that actually builds and maintains Hamilton's critical infrastructure, or from Planning and Economic Development, the department whose job it is to understand and explain why Hamilton needs LRT in the first place.

Hamilton's LRT plan has effectively been left to wither on the vine. Its mayor doesn't support it, most Councillors won't stick their necks out for it and the staff teams who developed it have been dispersed (Justin Readman, the rapid transit project manager who shepherded Rapid Ready to completion, is now working for Waterloo Region on their LRT system).

Almost no one is explaining or promoting LRT to Hamiltonians. Without a champion pushing the plan forward, fear and misinformation are slowly taking over the public discourse.

People who don't understand the economic development impact are asking why we don't just build a cheaper bus system. People who don't know the east-west route of the B-Line already has 13,000 rides a day claim we don't have enough ridership for LRT.

And of course, anti-LRT political opportunists who do know these things exploit the relative paucity of public information to sow uncertainty and doubt

http://www.raisethehammer.org/articl...sport_minister

Listen to an audio recording of Murray's address, recorded and posted by Richard Allen of Renew Hamilton. http://renewhamilton.ca/latest-updat...urray-podcast/
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Transit fix delayed again
(CATCH, Mar 3 2014)

A decision has been put off again on the first city-funded improvements in residential HSR service in over twenty years that would add service to the fastest-growing parts of Hamilton. The main obstacles are election-year penny pinching and a pre-amalgamation tax system that gives preferential treatment to Ancaster.

At issue are proposals that will provide evening and weekend service along the two major east-west bus routes in the rapidly developing south mountain area and add less than 0.1 percent to the 2014 budget.

The Rymal 44 runs from Eastgate Square through upper Stoney Creek all the way to the Ancaster business park, making it the HSR’s longest route, but outside of rush hour it offers only hourly service and doesn’t run at all on weekends or holidays. The Stone Church 43 is the main route in upper Stoney Creek and extends across the mountain to the Meadowlands shopping area, but has very infrequent evening and weekend service and none at all on Sunday evening.

The two proposed upgrades, plus a minimal cost extension of the A-Line from downtown to the harbourfront, will cost $2.6 million, not counting what will eventually be recouped from fares. The impact on this year’s budget is only $1.1 million because the changes won’t start before August, and that will be cut by a further half million using unexpected HSR revenue from last year, bringing the maximum net 2014 cost down to $600,000.

Calculated across the city, this would add less than $2 to the average household tax bill, but because transit is area-rated, Ancaster and Stoney Creek residents would carry the lion’s share of the cost. In a situation unique in Ontario, HSR taxes vary dramatically between the six municipalities that formed the new city fourteen years ago. Rural Flamborough pays nothing to support the HSR, while the tax hit on average value homes in other areas ranges from around $70 in Ancaster and Dundas to four times that amount in the old city of Hamilton.

The numbers reflect hours of bus service in each of the former municipalities, but also mean that generally the wealthiest parts of the city pay the lowest tax rate. Other aspects of area rating are now being phased out, but a decision on equalizing the transit portion has been put off by council until next year.



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The remainder of the old area rating system needs to go. Now. It's time.

And this dickering is why I have no confidence that the calls to forget the LRT and invest a billion dollars in transit throughout the entire city would result in any kinds of agreeable and sensible plans.
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HSR real time data

It appears that real time bus data is now available for the HSR. When I called Bus Check yesterday, the robot voice announced "departure times" rather than "scheduled times".

Sure enough, the bus check website has been updated. If you look at next stop times, it gives a scheduled and estimated time. You can also track the buses on a map.

http://www.busweb.hamilton.ca:8008/

(Doesn't look like the real-time info is being used by transit apps yet. I think there was a statement in the fall that this should be available in a few months following real time data going live on the website).
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Clark seeks transit updates for Stoney Creek
(Stoney Creek News, Kevin Werner, Mar 5 2014)

When Stoney Creek councillor Brad Clark was first elected to Hamilton council in 2006 he managed to get some weekend transit service to his upper Stoney Creek area.

As the area has blossomed and more commercial development has occurred, he now wants transit service in the evenings for employees who are stuck in the area working late at night with no way to get home.

“I have a large commercial district, but I have no Sunday service in the evenings,” he said. “For 20 years (Stoney Creek) has not had Sunday service. We (built) this commercial development for jobs, but we don’t have transit there. It’s an ongoing issue.”

Hamilton politicians are currently examining what transit enhancements can be implemented this year without breaking the budget. The 2014 average tax increase is sitting at about 1.8 per cent, and is projected to dip slightly to 1.5 per cent this week. Some politicians want to get as close to zero per cent as possible this year.

But there are two additional transit routes being proposed by staff, one along Rymal Road, and the other on Stone Church Road, that will cost the city about $2.6 million a year to operate, with a capital cost to establish the routes of about $2.4 million.

Upper Stoney Creek residents will also see a new transit service along Upper Kenilworth from Mohawk to Heritage Green once construction happens along Pritchard and Mud streets. The service was approved last year but has not been fully implemented because the roads aren’t ready to handle buses yet. Transit Director Don Hull said he expects the road improvements to be completed later this year.

Clark says all the transit enhancements would benefit his community and they are warranted. But as politicians try to keep taxes low, he understands the choices each councillor will have to make.



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Clark's opinion is a stark contrast to that of his counterpart on the other side of the upper city, who also has a large commercial district in his ward. And that of the councillor in the neighbouring ward, who has a large employment district in his as well as a developing commercial corridor.
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