PHILADELPHIA | Highrise Development Thread IX - Page 72

summersm343 · #**1421** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 7:38 AM**

Broad and Callowhill development approved by the Planning Commission. On to the ZBA March 19th

http://planphilly.com/articles/2014/02/1...ands-better-response-to-design-committee

summersm343 · #**1422** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 7:47 AM**

Brazilian Pulp and Paper Company relocates to Philadelphia

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Fibria Celulose S.A., a Brazilian pulp and paper company will relocate its Northeastern United States distribution center to the Tioga Marine Terminal in July, creating 228 stevedore and terminal jobs and up to 380 total jobs, including ones for rail workers and truckers. Fibria Celulose will relocate the business from the Port of Baltimore.

http://www.philly.com/philly/business/20..._paper_company_to_relocate_to_Tioga.html

McBane · #**1423** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 4:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Broad and Callowhill development approved by the Planning Commission. On to the ZBA March 19th

http://planphilly.com/articles/2014/02/1...ands-better-response-to-design-committee

Great news but I do have bone to pick:

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Developers Hanover North Broad and Parkway Corporation got the support of the Philadelphia City Planning Commission for the 12 zoning variances they will need to build 339 apartments in two buildings at 339 and 322-44 North Broad Street.

Wasn't a new zoning code JUST approved? So how the heck does a mid rise apartment w/ ground floor retail on Broad St need 12 variances? Maybe large projects are just impossible to zone "by right", but I would have thought things would be improved just a little. And the Planning Commission is going back and forth about trees in pots or in the ground? WTF!? I thought the entire point of the new zoning code was to streamline the process. It doesn't appear to have any impact whatsoever. More of the same old same old.

Thankfully, the city's archaic red tape and still-backwards zoning code isn't hindering development at the present moment.

Aaamazarite · #**1424** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 4:46 PM**

Um...

http://hiddencityphila.org/2014/02/landmark-lits-to-grow-30-stories-taller/

tsarstruck · #**1425** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 4:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by Aaamazarite

Um...

http://hiddencityphila.org/2014/02/landmark-lits-to-grow-30-stories-taller/

Wow. That's all I've got. Sure, not much to look at, but what a bet on Market East. The dominoes are definitely starting to fall.

SSBMEXPERT · #**1426** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 5:12 PM**

Wow... this city really is booming. I just really hope all of these break ground ASAP, cause I'm getting worried about the economy. Some say it's getting better, some say it may tank again like 2008/2009. I of course would hope it keeps getting better, Philly could always use the extra height.

DIESELPOLO · #**1427** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 5:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by tsarstruck

Wow. That's all I've got. Sure, not much to look at, but what a bet on Market East. The dominoes are definitely starting to fall.

...and that rendering doesn't look much better than a dominoe. ::crosses fingers in hopes that it's just a massing model::

Insoluble · #**1428** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 5:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by McBane

Great news but I do have bone to pick:

Wasn't a new zoning code JUST approved? So how the heck does a mid rise apartment w/ ground floor retail on Broad St need 12 variances? Maybe large projects are just impossible to zone "by right", but I would have thought things would be improved just a little. And the Planning Commission is going back and forth about trees in pots or in the ground? WTF!? I thought the entire point of the new zoning code was to streamline the process. It doesn't appear to have any impact whatsoever. More of the same old same old.

Thankfully, the city's archaic red tape and still-backwards zoning code isn't hindering development at the present moment.

The zoning code is new, but the zoning map isn't The city hasn't been re-mapped yet with the new zones, and with an address like Broad and Callowhill I wouldn't be surprised if the lot was still zoned for industrial use. It will take quite a bit of time for them to redo the zoning map for the entire city.

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Originally Posted by Aaamazarite

Um...

http://hiddencityphila.org/2014/02/landmark-lits-to-grow-30-stories-taller/

I smell a future butt-fugly building of the week!

Pennsgrant · #**1429** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 5:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by DIESELPOLO

...and that rendering doesn't look much better than a dominoe. ::crosses fingers in hopes that it's just a massing model::

Hate it!

Lose the cookie cutter mass produced modern addition and simply Add/replicate 25 stories to the front end(market St) portion of the current building. We got a winner for the next 200 years.

Jayfar · #**1430** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 5:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Pennsgrant

Hate it!

Lose the cookie cutter mass produced modern addition and simply Add/replicate 25 stories to the front end(market St) portion of the current building. We got a winner for the next 200 years.

Not. A. Chance.

Historic preservation theory and regulations universally frown on any additions that try to mimic an existing structure. Contrast to existing structures is requisite.

sayitaintso · #**1431** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 5:49 PM**

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/...chinatown-tower-gets-funding-source.html

Pennsgrant · #**1432** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 5:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jayfar

Not. A. Chance.

Historic preservation theory and regulations universally frown on any additions that try to mimic an existing structure. Contrast to existing structures is requisite.

That theory sucks. There is no reason that facade couldnt be replicated in an economical fashion. It could and should have been the path to take. Its an amazing building at 5 stories. At 30 stories it becomes a world reknown architectural titan. This 30 story mass produced box is an abomination.And its core is facing the wrong direction to accentuate the skyline. This things girth should be set E/W not N/S.

sayitaintso · #**1433** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 6:02 PM**

This woman is on a crusade to keep this city development free:

http://planphilly.com/articles/2014/02/1...der-blackwell-s-two-story-building-limit

Pennsgrant · #**1434** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 6:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by sayitaintso

This woman is on a crusade to keep this city development free:

http://planphilly.com/articles/2014/02/1...der-blackwell-s-two-story-building-limit

Self preservation.

cjPhilly · #**1435** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 6:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Pennsgrant

That theory sucks. There is no reason that facade couldnt be replicated in an economical fashion. It could and should have been the path to take. Its an amazing building at 5 stories. At 30 stories it becomes a world reknown architectural titan.

This theory may suck, but it has come about because practice has shown that we are no good at replicating the building methods and materials used in the past. Instead, we get modern replicas that cannot match the historic nature of the building and instead look "Disney-ified" in the face of the real thing. How many decades has it been since someone actually built a building with a cast-iron facade? It's not just a matter of going to Home Depot and getting parts to match the Lit Bros facade.

I think this is the right approach, as much as I think the design for the tower is a tad too bland.