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Wasn't Penn Tower a hotel for the Civic Center?
No, it was a hotel for Penn and always owned by Penn (I was a student at Penn around the time it opened). The Inn at Penn and the University City Sheraton have basically taken over much of its original function.
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I'm throwing so much shade at the Perelman Center. Ugh, I've always wanted to think it would "work itself out" architecturally (idk, like getting your braces off...but architecturally(?)), but it looks to be doubling down on its improbable structural addendums. Alas.

Excited for news next week @Summer! Should we all be in a real estate investment pool then?
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Old Posted Feb 10, 2014, 1:40 AM
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Future of the Gallery

I received an email trying to get people to attend an event put on by BISNOW for a discussion on the Future of the Gallery for sometime this month. Is anyone planning on attending this event? If so, will someone be kind to report back to us with details?
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Old Posted Feb 10, 2014, 12:10 PM
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More Gallery stuff....

Another story about the pending remodel, I boldfaced stuff in interest....

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One thing that has been much discussed is opening the mall more to the streets surrounding it.

"They have had plans for almost four years to basically create an active street front on Market Street," said Paul Levy, executive director of the Center City District, "to break down the solid walls and have lots of doors and windows and restaurants and cafés opening to the street."

Such a reimagining would dramatically enliven what is now a rather prosaic stretch of Market Street.

It also would require a lease change, since at the moment PREIT does not control the exterior walls of the Gallery, which originally was a $101 million publicly financed project and is still in the public domain. Greenberger said a new lease has been prepared to give PREIT that control once the company is ready to move ahead on renovations.

Those renovations will be costly, putting more pressure on tenant rents. Which argues for more successful tenants.

For some time, PREIT has made it clear that it is seeking upscale retailers to anchor its reenvisioned mall - or certainly retailers that could do more to exploit the strengths of the location, now numerous thanks to the expanded Convention Center, the Market East transit station, and the growing downtown residential population.

At the moment, there is little about the Gallery to appeal to any of the above.

"It is not oriented to the current visitors, let alone the dramatic growth in residential downtown," Levy said. "No one thinks to go to Market East to shop."

PREIT has signaled two possible directions. One would be to find a high-end anchor or two, such as Bloomingdales, to provide a draw for more moneyed consumers.

In June, Coradino told an audience of retailers that "another possible alternative is what we call 'Fast Fashion and Food,' if you will, and that is to redevelop it more consistent with some of the more trendy suburban mall tenants - like the Forever 21, the H&M, the Uniqlo, as well as restaurants and other food choices."

Robert F. McCadden, PREIT's chief financial officer, told analysts in April that the direction ultimately would be decided by the retailers.

"For instance, if we were to secure a high-fashion luxury department store as an anchor, that would end up having it be one kind of a project," McCadden said. "Conversely, if we were to secure more of a discount or popular-price department store, or some kind of a nontraditional retail anchor, large food market, etc., they would really define the project differently."

How it plays out is dependent on the complicated dance that mall owners perform with potential tenants, who typically want to know who their neighbors will be before committing.

"There are no pioneers in retail," is how Levy described it. "No retailer will go into a new location in hopes a market follows."

Rather, national brands need to be convinced they will have the company of other market-creating sellers. All of which means PREIT must sell itself to multiple retailers simultaneously, with the promise to each that the others will come along if it does.

It is that process that has seemed to be the biggest drag on the project.
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....and Kmart is winding down....

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Seventeen years ago, when Kmart moved into the Center City shopping complex, Claudette was one of the first employees, she said.

"I helped open the store. I made sure everything was stocked on the shelves. It was always busy."

Now 49 and a catering cook, she was there to score the best and most discounted stuff from aisles that have become almost as familiar as her bookshelves at home.

"I can't believe they're taking it away," Boyd said. "I'm shocked. Really shocked. When you're so used to going to one store. Men's over there. Women's over here. Appliances upstairs."

This beginning-of-the-end event was understandably greeted with a grimmer sort of enthusiasm than the store's grand opening in November 1997. Then, Mayor Ed Rendell and City Council President John F. Street made an appearance, hailing the dawn of a new, lucrative retail venture.

Cookie Monster and Chinese dragon dancers cut loose. Strains of a live chorus of employees belting out a Kmart version of "Downtown" echoed throughout the store's two floors, which encompass more than 110,000 square feet.

The tunes for Sunday's mop-up shoppers were strictly piped in, with lyrics inviting subtextual interpretation like Gotye's "Somebody That I Used to Know."
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Old Posted Feb 10, 2014, 12:37 PM
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PhillyDeals: A building boom in University City

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Ironworkers are getting ready to hang more steel high above University City - and not just on the several large hospital and undergraduate housing jobs now in progress.

At 3601 Market St., the University City Science Center broke ground on a 28-story, $110 million, 364-apartment tower it hopes will attract engineers and founders of companies to live near the science center's offices and laboratory blocks.

Brandywine Property Trust plans 260 high-end apartments for its $341 million, 47-story FMC Tower at 30th and Walnut Streets. Brandywine is also selling to well-off grad students at Evo, a 33-story, $158 million high-rise tower at 2930 Chestnut St.

Radnor Property has started work on a 25-story, $105 million, 280-unit tower at 38th and Chestnut Streets.

Why all the high-rises?

"Young folks get more for their money here" than in Boston, New York, or Washington, says Ira Brown, regional president of M&T Bank, which does business in all four cities. M&T is lending $67 million to build 3601 Market.

Neighborhood vacancies are "below 5 percent," and cheap, streamlined Fannie Mae apartment construction financing makes deals attractive to lenders such as his bank, Brown added.

Philly is cheap, in part, because it hasn't been attracting new employers. But the pending second Comcast Corp. tower across the Schuylkill, as well as the headquarters planned by FMC, the chemical company, will make University City more desirable to young professionals.


"Without a doubt," Brown said. "I think more offices will eventually follow."

Won't this squeeze University City's traditional student landlords?

"There's no saturation. When you develop a good product, tenants come - even with everything that's in the pipeline," developer Todd Potter, currently erecting four low-rise apartment buildings in the neighborhood, told me.

Indeed, David Adelman's University City-based Campus Apartments, which manages 35,000 college-area beds nationwide, including 3,000 around Penn and Drexel, is now trolling for businesses to move to the neighborhood. Having lured partners Josh Kopelman and Chris Fralic's First Round Capital to the original Urban Outfitters store site at 41st and Locust Streets two years ago, Adelman is trying for a repeat at the block-long former Graphic Arts Inc. building at 4101 Sansom St.

The Sansom Street site is just a block from Adelman's new Homewood Suites Hotel, which Adelman says is busy with families visiting the nearby Children's Hospital of Pennsylvania, Penn's Wharton School, and the IRS office. He is also projecting a 12-story office building at 41st and Walnut Streets, if the market holds up.

I asked Adelman why Franklin Square Capital Partners, a company Adelman cofounded with Michael Forman, is building its own 80,000-square-foot headquarters way down in South Philly, at Liberty Property Trust's Navy Yard business park.

It's tough to beat the combination of cheap former government land, free parking, and plenty of space for a gym and other amenities that fast-growing Franklin Square wants to build, Adelman told me.

At least Philadelphia is big enough to give some companies a choice.
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Liberty Property Trust plans to charge rents "that are high $30s (per square foot), kissing $40," to Comcast and any additional tenants for the company's planned second Center City office tower, Liberty boss Bill Hankowsky told investors during a conference call yesterday. That's higher than the $20s/sq ft range where Center City rents have been stuck since the 1990s. "Obviously, higher floors will charge more than lower floors," Hankowsky added.

What happens to downtown Philadelphia office leasing when Liberty opens the 59-story Comcast Innovation and Technology Center at 1800 Arch St. and Brandywine Realty Trust builds the 47-story FMC Corp. tower planned for 30th and Walnut? asked Craig Mailman, analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Hankowsky said the FMC and Comcast moves could dump up to 800,000 sq ft of office space onto the market. Or less: Comcast might take the whole new building, as it did with its first tower in 2005, reducing the vacancy. He's hoping Comcast, plus Center City's rising population of educated young people, will attract more tech employers to fill empty offices. And he expects old buildings will continue to "convert to hotels and apartment buildings... I don't see a problem."
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Brandywine seeking to sell South Jersey properties to focus on urbanist developments.

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“We have sold a fair number of properties in New Jersey and still have a good size there,” said Jerry Sweeney, chief executive officer of Brandywine (NYSE: BDN.) “We’re shifting a lot of our focus to urban areas and town centers that are mixed-use, served by rail and are walkable.”
As it has in other markets, the company has diminished its presence in South Jersey over time. At one point, the market used to account for about 25 percent of its revenues and that has dwindled down to about 5 percent. Last year, Liberty Property Trust (NYSE: LRY) totally exited the South Jersey market.
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CHOP's expansion across the river is for researchers.
Are researchers robots? Somehow in-human? Do they not require food to eat, or shops to enjoy?

Also, the retail and street-life portion that civic associations are requesting is not just for the researchers--it's just as much for the folks in the neighborhood and the city at-large.
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Are researchers robots? Somehow in-human? Do they not require food to eat, or shops to enjoy?

Also, the retail and street-life portion that civic associations are requesting is not just for the researchers--it's just as much for the folks in the neighborhood and the city at-large.
This.
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Are researchers robots? Somehow in-human? Do they not require food to eat, or shops to enjoy?

Also, the retail and street-life portion that civic associations are requesting is not just for the researchers--it's just as much for the folks in the neighborhood and the city at-large.
But it is the job of a non-profit organization who is seeking cures for childhood diseases to worry about what folks outside the research arena care about the buildings?

This is where folks lose it. The CHOP towers are designed for research against childhood diseases. It is not meant to be a gathering site for neighborhood folks on the city at large.

I believe that CHOP is doing well with connecting the surrounding neighborhood to the river and park in the site design. But to expect or demand food restaurants for the city at large, that is not the purpose of these towers.
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But it is the job of a non-profit organization who is seeking cures for childhood diseases to worry about what folks outside the research arena care about the buildings?

This is where folks lose it. The CHOP towers are designed for research against childhood diseases. It is not meant to be a gathering site for neighborhood folks on the city at large.

I believe that CHOP is doing well with connecting the surrounding neighborhood to the river and park in the site design. But to expect or demand food restaurants for the city at large, that is not the purpose of these towers.
Basically agree but they can also be good corporate citizens. Is there enough money to lease retial and integrate into the design. Is CHOP interested enough in being a good resident and trying appease these demands.

The flip side is the end of the day CHOP brings a ton to city no matter if they have retail or not (I wish on South it was a tad more freindly but having to choose CHOP or NOT I take the former...)
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But it is the job of a non-profit organization who is seeking cures for childhood diseases to worry about what folks outside the research arena care about the buildings?

This is where folks lose it. The CHOP towers are designed for research against childhood diseases. It is not meant to be a gathering site for neighborhood folks on the city at large.

I believe that CHOP is doing well with connecting the surrounding neighborhood to the river and park in the site design. But to expect or demand food restaurants for the city at large, that is not the purpose of these towers.
It doesn't matter what wonderful things you are doing on the inside of a building it doesn't give you an excuse to be a bad neighbor on the outside. People aren't asking for much; anything BUT a dead zone and bare, dark-at-night street wall. If their plan is still in the long run to move researchers to the east side of the river to make room for more hospital work then in their own self interest it would serve them to develop a slightly more engaging and dynamic campus for the knowledge workers they expect to fill it.
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[SIZE="4"]Expect announcements for several new towers in a development at 23rd and Arch on the 11th.

So what time can we expect this announcement today?
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So what time can we expect this announcement today?
This is Comcast II tower all over again. Maybe this info shouldn't be leaked because it seems every time it is it becomes delayed for months.
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This is Comcast II tower all over again. Maybe this info shouldn't be leaked because it seems every time it is it becomes delayed for months.
I don't think the delay had anything to do with leaks. I think it had everything to do with the School District funding issues. Corbett mooted it by releasing funds, and the announcement went ahead a short time later.
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So what time can we expect this announcement today?
LSNA meeting tonight at 7pm.

http://www.lsnaphilly.org/announcements/untitledpost-7

16th and Vine announcement by the Church of Latter Day Saints is tomorrow. The announcement is with the mayor so expect it earlier in the day.
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But it is the job of a non-profit organization who is seeking cures for childhood diseases to worry about what folks outside the research arena care about the buildings?

This is where folks lose it. The CHOP towers are designed for research against childhood diseases. It is not meant to be a gathering site for neighborhood folks on the city at large.

I believe that CHOP is doing well with connecting the surrounding neighborhood to the river and park in the site design. But to expect or demand food restaurants for the city at large, that is not the purpose of these towers.
Sorry, this is a lame cop out and no matter how many times you point to the fact that they are saving children can change that.

No building's primary function is to serve the city or the street. None. Every building's primary purpose is for something else--whether it's a home or a business or commercial. Imagine a city where every building only focuses it's attention internally? Horrible. No one is above the law and they are being held to a standard that they should be held to.

Besides, let's be real, how could a corner cafe on the park somehow hinder those folks doing "research against childhood diseases?" It's nonsense.
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