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Old Posted Jan 28, 2014, 4:39 AM
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Time is right to add public accountability to NCC

By Joanne Chianello, OTTAWA CITIZEN January 27, 2014 8:00 PM


OTTAWA — Does the National Capital Commission need a new governance model?

That’s one of the questions that arises from the news that a member of NCC’s board placed himself in a conflict of interest when, last week, he debated the merits of the city’s western light-rail extension.

As the Citizen’s David Reevely first reported, Robert Tennant’s urban planning firm, FoTenn Consultants, does work for a property owner who stands to benefit from the second phase of the city’s LRT. Only after that report did Tennant actually check into his firm’s business dealings — oh, to have such a thriving business that you don’t know who your clients are! — and he recused himself from future discussions about the LRT extension.

That conflicts of interest arise in a city the size of Ottawa is no surprise. Live here long enough, be involved in enough causes, businesses or politics, and eventually you’ll find yourself in a potential conflict. Of course, Tennant should have declared a conflict well before now, but both he and NCC chair Russell Mills were quick to assure us it won’t happen again.

But there’s a bigger issue at play here: whether the NCC needs a more publicly accountable board to replace the current one appointed by the federal government (or, in this case, by Ottawa West-Nepean MP and Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird).

While the NCC is responsible for maintaining heritage sites, such as 24 Sussex and Rideau Hall, its main function is managing the massive lands under its control, including Gatineau Park, the Greenbelt and various other properties. Its real-estate role is even more pronounced since the federal government transferred responsibility for Canada Day celebrations and Winterlude to the Department of Canadian Heritage (the NCC is still in charge of the Rideau Canal Skateway).

Lately, the NCC has been under fire for refusing to let the city use a piece of the Sir John A. Macdonald Parkway for the LRT western extension. Mayor Jim Watson has described the NCC as intrusive, although he hasn’t quite called for it to be abolished.

Nor should it be. The NCC isn’t perfect, but it has fought for the esthetic protection of some of our heritage sites (preventing a largely commercial digital wall on the side of the Ottawa Convention Centre is but one example).

Being a capital makes Ottawa complicated. There’s always tension between the needs of the local city (largely supported by property taxes) and the expectations — and dare we suggest, grandeur — that come with being the nation’s capital. The NCC is often criticized for coming up with wonderful-sounding mission statements, with no way to pay for them.

So what to do?

Some have mused that the National Capital Region should be turned into a distinct district, much like Washington, D.C. But it’s hard to see that going over big in Ottawa. Residents of D.C. have neither state nor federal representation; they have no senator and only a non-voting delegate in the House of Representatives. Can you imagine not getting to vote for an MP? Or having any city decision overturned at the whim of the federal government?

But there is a role for the NCC to play in bringing together the disparate parts of the region to build a better capital. There’s no reason the NCC’s 15-member board can’t be made up of appointed and elected representatives. Both the Ottawa and Gatineau mayors should automatically be members. Citizens on both sides of the boundary could each vote for one local representative on the board during their respective municipal elections. Perhaps one MP from each party — representing different parts of the country — could hold a seat, to contribute both regional and ideological diversity.

That still leaves seven spots open for appointees, including the chair. You might wonder what such a motley crew would accomplish. Well, what does the NCC board accomplish now?

If the stakeholders affected by NCC musings are actually involved in the decision making, surely there is a better chance we can actually make headway into integrating the two cities’ public transit systems, or coming up with an interprovincial bridge proposal that’s more widely acceptable, or an interprovincial plan to clean up the river.

The NCC is great at consulting and coming up with a vision for the capital. But it would be far better if just some of that blue-skying actually saw the light of day.

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One thought I have is to create a bi-cameral regional government. It would have a "Grand Council" possibly made up of the combined city councils of Ottawa and Gatineau (plus local MPs?), and a "Board of Governors" similar to the present NCC that only has power over federal lands and interests (I dare say like a mini-senate). Both sides of the river has had past experience with regional government so it's nothing new. This new regional government would take control of public transit, interprovincial bridges and certain connecting arterial roads (including parkways), and general land use planning, administered by the Grand Council. The chair could revolve between the Ottawa and Gatineau mayors on a yearly basis. The Federal government retains control over issues of national importance through the Board of Governors, such as official residences, embassy locations, and its properties. It would review and approve the decisions of the Grand Council but it would only have the power of veto on specified federal interests. To fund the Regional Government it would levy a portion of property taxes, which would be matched by a proportional federal contribution.

The Grand Council would not have to sit that often, maybe twice a month. the important thing is that issues that affect both sides of the river are acted upon effectively and dealt with by a unified staff. The workload for local councillors remain more or less the same, the debates just happen in two different places.
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So where's the bicameral part? You've got two chambers all right, but each appears to have its own areas of responsibility without any real requirement for anything passed by one to go through the other, except in very limited circumstances, and only in one direction. Don't get me wrong - I actually think it's a good idea - but it's not really bicameral, either.

The other question I have is how to deal with the vote weight of each councillor. If each councillor's vote is of equal weight, then (1) Ottawa will be able to run the show and (2) either city might be inclined to game the system by increasing the number of councillors. I think there'd have to be an agreement on the apportioning of councillors and/or possibly some kind of double-majority requirement.

I'd toss out having the mayors being the chairs. Let the NCC chair be the chair, but non-voting (as an aside, I've never been too fond of the current system where the chair regularly votes - it should work more like the Speaker of the House or Senate). The mayors can each be on the Board of Governors and act as deputy chairs (also non-voting) in the Grand Council.

A representative or two from the Algonquins should probably also be included in one or both bodies given that this is their traditional territory, and all the more so given that the "obvious" place to put the meeting place is one on of the Chaudière Falls islands.

This would also require some seriously thoughtful enabling legislation in the two provinces and at the federal level.
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I think in the ideal perfect world scenario, the NCR secedes from ON & QC--but that would be a huge pain in the ass.
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So where's the bicameral part? You've got two chambers all right, but each appears to have its own areas of responsibility without any real requirement for anything passed by one to go through the other, except in very limited circumstances, and only in one direction. Don't get me wrong - I actually think it's a good idea - but it's not really bicameral, either.
OK, so maybe everything need to be passed through lower council and then upper chamber, and when a project goes through entire process it is tantamount to the Feds agreeing with the decision and providing its share of the funding. Either chamber could give staff directives, the council on matters that are local (mainly public transit and transportation), the governors on issues that are national. In either case, issues are discussed/debated both on the local and federal level

I think the reason that the capital is so dysfunctional is that there really is no official and effective process for the municipalities and the federal government to interact, other than hissy-fits through the media.

The separate city councils retain their roles in providing local and provincial services (health, sanitation, recreation etc), but since it's the same politicians involved there should be better coordination and less duplication.
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Mayors of Gatineau and Ottawa calling for elected representatives on the NCC board (at least one per municipality)
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Annnd Baird's office has already said no
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Annnd Baird's office has already said no
Links?

Absolutely has to happen though. Completely ridiculous we get no say in the NCC's stonewall rejection of municipal policies.
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That is literally so reasonable! Their letter is quite good.
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Pedneaud-Jobin and Watson should work together to abolish the NCC and split the bounty.

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Absolutely has to happen though. Completely ridiculous we get no say in the NCC's stonewall rejection of municipal policies.
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Ottawa, Gatineau mayors demand seats on NCC board

By David Reevely, OTTAWA CITIZEN January 29, 2014 8:30 PM


OTTAWA — The National Capital Commission doesn’t know enough about local affairs and is getting in the way of progress, the mayors of Ottawa and Gatineau charged Wednesday, and putting them on its board is their solution.

After their first formal meeting since Gatineau’s Maxime Pedneaud-Jobin was elected last fall, he and Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson emerged with a list of grievances, from “relentless obstruction in the City of Ottawa’s efforts to create a world-class transit system for the National Capital Region” to the “unilateral decision to close Rue Gamelin” in Gatineau. They signed it and sent it to Prime Minister Stephen Harper, demanding reforms that should start with adding an elected official from each city council to the 15-member NCC board.

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Ottawa West–Nepean MP John Baird, the minister responsible for the commission, gave the idea a chilly reception.

“The idea of putting city officials on the board is an idea this and the previous government have not endorsed,” his spokesman Rick Roth said by email. For eight years, he pointed out, the NCC has answered to a local member of Parliament, which adds a degree of local accountability — before Baird, the minister in charge was Pontiac’s Lawrence Cannon, a former Gatineau city councillor. That was a change the Conservatives made from the previous tradition of having the commission overseen by whoever was heritage minister.

Baird’s office was taken aback by the mayors’ demand; the two mayors had told Baird they were meeting and would talk about the NCC, Watson admitted, but not that they expected to come out asking for it to be reformed.

The commission should be more like Montreal’s Port Authority, Watson said, with a national purpose but locals dominating it. The change would take an amendment to the National Capital Commission Act.

The composition of the NCC board, which has eight members from places outside the capital, made some sense when Ottawa and Gatineau were fractured, he said. “A few years ago, we had 11 municipalities, a regional government, several municipalities in Gatineau before the amalgamation. And there was a conflict, because Gloucester was competing with Ottawa, with Vanier, and then you had Aylmer and Gatineau and Hull. We now have two governments in two cities in two provinces,” he said.

Naming a council member from each city, typically the mayor, to the board would be a first step toward reversing the balance. Eight board members should be from the capital region and seven from elsewhere, Watson said.

The commission’s refusal to accept Ottawa’s plans for running a light-rail line along the Ottawa River near Highland Park clearly angered Watson the most. The board’s constant demands for the city to spend more on the project, which is already estimated to cost $980 million, are just unreasonable, he said, calling them “micromanagement and second-guessing.” He scorned the commission’s demands in the first stage of the rail line, now under construction — which went as far as approving the shrubs the city intends to plant around its new stations.

Watson also complained about the state of Sparks Street, where the NCC is a major landlord and famously indifferent to the needs of small businesses. Few restaurateurs want to invest in outfitting kitchens if they can only get the short-term leases the NCC insists on, for instance.

For Pedneaud-Jobin, Rue Gamelin is the biggest irritant. The commission closed the east-west route across the southern tip of Gatineau Park in 2012 with little consultation with the City of Gatineau. “They treat us more like a customer than like a partner,” he said in French. “We need a solution to the situation we’re in.”

Watson and Pedneaud-Jobin made a point to praise some of the NCC’s accomplishments over the years, particularly where it’s worked with local governments: Creating a majestic Confederation Boulevard, for instance, and rebuilding the Plaza Bridge. And they lauded the Conservative government for making commission board meetings open by default, rather than closed to the public.

That means there’s hope, in their view: “We’re not willing to give up on the NCC yet,” Watson said.

The fact the NCC board had an open meeting last week, where member Robert Tennant got involved in the debate on the city’s rail plans, helped expose that Tennant’s private urban-planning firm also works for a client whose development plans are directly implicated in the rail project, Watson pointed out. More openness and accountability is always a good thing, he argued.

The mayor said he’s not worried that an attack on the commission will make getting its co-operation on things like the rail project more difficult.

“Are you suggesting there’s going to be retributions because we dared to offer a way to open up and make the NCC more accountable?” he shot back in response to a reporter’s question. “I think that would backfire on the federal government, if they’re going to all of a sudden start saying, ‘These mayors are asking too much and we’re going to take out on them, charging more for parking in Gatineau Park and we’re going to make it more difficult for light rail.’ I hope they don’t go down that path because I don’t think the public would be too pleased and impressed with that.”

Besides their shared complaints about the NCC, the two mayors said they agreed on the need to better co-ordinate transit and pedestrian and cycling links (including with a joint project to open the Prince of Wales Bridge across the Ottawa River to bikes and pedestrians), to work together on reducing sewage dumps into the river, and to promote tourism and private-sector jobs.

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As much as I hate the NCC (with a passion that burns like a million ancient suns), an elected rep from each city on the NCC board would be in an inherent conflict-of-interest position.

There are solutions to the NCC problem. This ain't it.
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As much as I hate the NCC (with a passion that burns like a million ancient suns), an elected rep from each city on the NCC board would be in an inherent conflict-of-interest position.

There are solutions to the NCC problem. This ain't it.
I share a similar view on this, only in that I don't know how Watson's proposal would work in a day today reality. Are there not seven board members at the NCC? How would adding Watson and Jobin sway a vote past the tipping point, assuming the other 7 were dead set against something, as they always are?

I'd like to see the NCC's influence tempered and reduced (or re-allocated), but I'm not sure how far this proposal would go towards achieving the outcome Watson wants.

Also - Watson's pissed!!
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As much as I hate the NCC (with a passion that burns like a million ancient suns), an elected rep from each city on the NCC board would be in an inherent conflict-of-interest position.
How so? Would they have a financial stake in the outcome of any random NCC board decision? They might on the odd decision, but that's no different than what all government officials face.

Conflicts of interest usually arise when a person stands to benefit financially due to their position on a public body with decision making powers.

That's a hard case to make for elected officials from one government being seconded to the agency of another.

Wouldn't this have been an issue in the early days of the RMOC when it was composed of councillors from the municipalities? Or with the conservation authorities? Councillor Chernushenko for instance serves on the board of the Rideau Valley Conservation Authority, as does Councillor El-Chantiry on that of the Mississippi Valley Conservation Authority.

The same issues would seem to apply to the above as for having municipal representatives on the NCC board.
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The US version of the NCC has several local reps on their board
http://www.ncpc.gov/ncpc/Main(T2)/Ab...ommission.html

Australia's doesn't but I like the expertise they have running the show
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I share a similar view on this, only in that I don't know how Watson's proposal would work in a day today reality. Are there not seven board members at the NCC? How would adding Watson and Jobin sway a vote past the tipping point, assuming the other 7 were dead set against something, as they always are?

I'd like to see the NCC's influence tempered and reduced (or re-allocated), but I'm not sure how far this proposal would go towards achieving the outcome Watson wants.

Also - Watson's pissed!!
I think it is more that putting these people on the board would allow the cities to have some say and influence in decisions. Right now, the NCC operates with their mandate for "all Canadians" and don't necessarily consider the Canadians that are in Ottawa and Gatineau.

Ultimately, it probably won't make an impact - as you point out even if you take 2 seats and give one to each city you still have a 5-2 vote. But at the same time it may be a step to the cities and the NCC working in a more co-operative fashion than what is going on now.
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I think it is more that putting these people on the board would allow the cities to have some say and influence in decisions. Right now, the NCC operates with their mandate for "all Canadians" and don't necessarily consider the Canadians that are in Ottawa and Gatineau.

Ultimately, it probably won't make an impact - as you point out even if you take 2 seats and give one to each city you still have a 5-2 vote. But at the same time it may be a step to the cities and the NCC working in a more co-operative fashion than what is going on now.
I would like to see a system where elected mayors of each provincial capital city (sans Rob Ford ) in addition to the mayor's of Ottawa and Gatineau have a seat on the board - not just random people from all over Canada without any accountability.
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I share a similar view on this, only in that I don't know how Watson's proposal would work in a day today reality. Are there not seven board members at the NCC? How would adding Watson and Jobin sway a vote past the tipping point, assuming the other 7 were dead set against something, as they always are?

I'd like to see the NCC's influence tempered and reduced (or re-allocated), but I'm not sure how far this proposal would go towards achieving the outcome Watson wants.
I'm counting 14 on the NCC board right now, so Watson's proposal really wouldn't alter the balance of power or anything dramatic like that:
http://www.ncc-ccn.gc.ca/about-ncc/n...d-of-directors

As others have said, I think the point of municipal representation on the board is more to ensure that there is some kind of coordination going on between the NCC and the cities, just as there is for the conservation authorities.
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I would like to see a system where elected mayors of each provincial capital city (sans Rob Ford ) in addition to the mayor's of Ottawa and Gatineau have a seat on the board - not just random people from all over Canada without any accountability.
Why? Those mayors were elected to govern their cities, not influence ours. And the citizens of those far-flung cities already have representation in Ottawa through their MPs, no need for duplication of effort. Recall that the NCC reports to the government of the day.

Additionally, and I'm not sure if I'm the only one who's noticed this or not, but I don't hear a lot of people from outside Ottawa taking any interest in, or even caring about, what the NCC does for Ottawa. The only ones who do are the minority of Canadian tourists who visit their national capital and see a nice clean downtown, wander through the market or maybe skate on the Canal.

These are important things for a national capital, but it doesn't take a body like the NCC to do manage this. Ottawa & Gatineau could just as easily do these things themselves without the obstructionist NCC claiming that only they can accomplish it.
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