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Old Posted Jan 23, 2014, 8:16 PM
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Thanks for the map Comrade. I always find demographics interesting.

I thought people may be interested. I heard that Boyer was in the office this week to discuss their project on State Street. If you drive by the site, the parking garage in the middle of the block is moving along rather quickly. That parking is sufficienct to provide parking for their new building, 102 South 200 East and the multi-family residential building on 200 East. That residential building will be built by Cowboy Partners and it looks to be 6 stories.
Good info. Hopefully that means 151 is moving forward. Sounds like the Boyer company is being aggressive with developing that area with 101, remodeling 102, 151 and the 6-story housing. Will the parking garage in the center of the block be used for 151 also, or will 151 have their own?
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2014, 8:50 PM
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There will be one parking garage for all of the Boyer properties on the block.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2014, 11:13 PM
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I must say, at least people are talking about it, but actions need to be taken. I think the bicycle needs to be our main focus. This would lead to healthier air quality and people. We need loads more bike lanes, loads more GreenBikes and locations, everyone that can needs to have a bike - so our government and local companies should figure something out and get every ass that can on a bike seat, even in the winter, especially in the winter. I used to live in Amsterdam and love love love their bike culture, it's so much fun! I know we aren't European by any stretch of the word, but we can take their genius ideas and make them our own.
I agree. There has been lots of talk about taking public transit and telecommuting but there should be more talking about biking and more infrastructure for biking. I have been thinking lately that there should be a bike lane along all of Bangerter. It would be on the side, one way, as far away from the highway as possible (so close to the sound barriers that go along Bangerter for most of it) and in the same direction as the traffic on that side of the road (so technically there would be two bike lane). There is lots of room of the side of Bangerter for most of it, although the funky new intersections they are putting everywhere are eliminating much of the room around intersections. With some creativity there could be enough room for a bike lane along the whole highway from I-15 all the way to the 201. It would help that there be some type of divider (i.e. fence, cement barrier) but I think it would help to increase bike infrastructure on the west side where they desperately need it.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 12:30 AM
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Another ideal spot for a bike commuter corridor, at least for those on the west side would be under the High Voltage Transmission lines that run a little east of the river. If I'm not mistaken they are the same ones near IKEA as on 5300 S as you are heading down towards the river. There is plenty of space and in that corridor, I think it would be ideal.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 1:06 AM
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Another ideal spot for a bike commuter corridor, at least for those on the west side would be under the High Voltage Transmission lines that run a little east of the river. If I'm not mistaken they are the same ones near IKEA as on 5300 S as you are heading down towards the river. There is plenty of space and in that corridor, I think it would be ideal.
I really like that idea, but I think it would be a hard sale to the general public (or the legislature), at least right now. The power lines essentially parallel the Jordan River Trail. I don't ever ride on the River Trail because I do not feel that it is not intended for serious bike commuting (essentially riding as fast as you can). There are too many joggers, walkers, novice riders, dogs, etc. to really ride as fast as I would prefer. Plus with all the turns and twists I feel like I have to travel twice as far as I would on a surface street. I imagine that any type of bike lane (whether a meandering River Trail or a direct path under power lines) is seen as a bike lane to any non-biker and a straight shot under some power lines is exactly the same as the river trail that it mirrors. Also, I would rather spend the money and see the River Trail completed than include a new bike lane a few feet away. That being said, I think if and when bike lanes are throughout the city, then yes, I think that is an excellent spot for a dedicated bike commuting lane. I like the idea, I would just prefer to see a few other areas get priority over the power line path.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 1:46 AM
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Could be very hard to get people on their bikes during the winter months. Other then that, not a bad idea.
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Professional sports teams is not one of the things I look at when it comes to 'what makes a city a city'. I was just giving the sports example when referring to Seattle. It was others that thought sports teams help make a city major.

I look at tourism, business HQ's in the city and nearby area, and the airport system.

Some of you say that SLC is similar to Phoenix. They are not even close. PHX is 6th in national population. The have two commercial airports that serve the city (Sky Harbor & Phoenix-Mesa). They also have a huge metro area. A ton more people visit the Phoenix area than the SLC area. Phoenix is way ahead of SLC. That's like comparing apples to oranges.

Along with Denver, Phoenix and Denver are the two cities that headline the mountain states region of the U.S.
I would consider the high finance activity in each city, too (my industry). In that regard, Phx is a laggard. It depends very heavily on LA for capital. Phx is a net consumer of wealth, not a producer of wealth. For a metro its size, Phx doesn't have a lot of corporate headquarters, either. Phx is just a big suburb of LA. Denver, however, is a true regional city with a lot of companies with operations there and a strong banking sector that has influence throughout CO and the surrounding states.

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Could be very hard to get people on their bikes during the winter months. Other then that, not a bad idea.
I agree, it is VERY hard to get people on bikes during the winter months. For the last year and a half I have been commuting using TRAX from SLC and then riding a bike from Murray to Taylorsville (about a 3 mile ride). Just over the last six months I have seen an increase in cyclist. It has only been one or two but an increase nonetheless. I don't know if this is because their work hours changed or if they decided riding a bike, but it makes me hopeful.

It is important is letting people know that riding during the winter is possible and can actually be quite enjoyable. A lot of people that I talk to, when I discuss riding my bike in the Winter, never had considered the possibility of riding. And yes, most of them are still driving but I'm hoping that little by little more people will leave their cars for bikes.

Despite it being difficult to get people to ride their bike in the winter, bike lanes in areas like Bangerter would be excellent during the summer, which is the second worse time of year for air quality. I know most of the focus is on winter because that when it is by far the worst, but some days during the summer it can get pretty smoggy as well.
     
     
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Regarding Phx, not quite. I looked at the numbers and SLC gets more tourist visits than Phx. I would consider the financial activity in each city, too (my industry). In that regard, Phx is a laggard. It depends very heavily on LA. Denver is a regional city. Phx is just a big suburb of LA.
I'm pretty sure more people visit the PHX are than the SLC area. You have Scottsdale, Mesa, resorts, golfing, etc in that area. The Canadians look the PHX area.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 3:13 AM
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I'm pretty sure more people visit the PHX are than the SLC area. You have Scottsdale, Mesa, resorts, golfing, etc in that area. The Canadians look the PHX area.
I edited my entry . Phx has more visitors, but only because we count snowbirds in that number; however, in recent polls of 1st time visitors, they show a rather high level of dissatisfaction and disappointment with Phx. Maricopa county has noticed a sharp decrease in numbers of visitors over the past 5 years beyond what the last recession caused. The number of visitors has not recovered the way we thought it would've. The biggest complaints are that Phx is rather boring unless you play golf and that what the tourists really want to see - Sedona and the Grand Canyon - are far away. The snowbirds we are counting are also showing signs of dissastisfaction with Phx. The baby boomers who are starting to show up aren't satisfied with shuffle board, golf, ceremonial daily trips to Scottsdale and quilting bees like the previous generation. They want to live in the regular part of town and not in the trailer parks and retirement centers of Sun City and East Mesa. They also complain about our bad air day in and day out all year (our brown cloud is here almost everyday of the year; whereas, at least SLC just has bad Januaries and it then clears out a bit). We have several big hotels, but they are not filling up the way they used to, even in winter. As for foreign visitors, we've only seen an increase of Canadians coming, and only as snowbirds. European and Asian tourists have dropped significantly. We think part of that is that they are now flying into Las Vegas and then touring the national parks to the north instead of coming here to do the same. Our convention hotel is under utilized because no one wants to have conventions here between April and October. If we don't count snowbirds, SLC receives far more visitors than Phx. We are going to have to rethink things down here if we want to keep attracting tourists and snowbirds.

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Didn't someone just a page back or so say something to the effect of the inversion not being significantly detrimental to people moving here or visiting here?

http://m.ksl.com/index/story/sid/28429885?mobile_direct=y#sASwE1Z7rZMjjskl.01
     
     
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Didn't someone just a page back or so say something to the effect of the inversion not being significantly detrimental to people moving here or visiting here?

http://m.ksl.com/index/story/sid/28429885?mobile_direct=y#sASwE1Z7rZMjjskl.01
My wife and I just moved here a few months ago and already I want to move and a major factor is the air quality.

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New owner of Salt Lake City’s Shilo Inn will make it a Holiday Inn

New owner of Salt Lake City’s Shilo Inn will make it a Holiday Inn
Facelift » Decades-old hotel to receive $10 million overhaul to its 200 rooms, exterior.
By TONY SEMERAD | The Salt Lake Tribune

Downtown Salt Lake City’s iconic Shilo Inn has been sold and its new Cedar City-based owners are promising to renovate the aging hotel and relaunch it as a Holiday Inn.

The neon-lined hotel, at 206 S. West Temple next to the Salt Palace Convention Center, will see a major overhaul of its 200 guest rooms, lobby and common areas as well as its exterior, said Jim Burgess, president of the privately held Burgess Investment Group, which bought the site late last week.

The Shilo Inn will get a complete facelift­ — including removal of its glaring red neon features.

"It’ll look like a new hotel when it’s done," Jim Burgess said. "The goal is for no-one to know it’s a conversion."

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/57440124-78/inn-hotel-burgess-shilo.html.csp
     
     
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Great news about the Shilo! How many years have we been fantasizing about a redo with that place. I hope they do a decent job with the exterior, and not just all stucco.

Thanks for that update DMTower. That's more happening on Regent than I thought. Looks like they're making good progress with the Capitol also.
     
     
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Two Utah cities among best for business

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865594659/Two-Utah-cities-among-best-for-business.html

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SALT LAKE CITY — A recent report from the Milken Institute ranked the Provo-Orem area as No. 2 and Salt Lake City as No. 5 on its list of the Top 25 Best-Performing Large Cities for business.

Rankings for the study were based on data from both long- and short-term growth in jobs, wages, salaries and technology output. Provo-Orem moved up five spots from last year’s ranking, due in part to the growing technology sector and high job growth rate, according to the report.

Salt Lake City ranked No. 5 on the Milken list due to a diverse, consistently growing economy with a positive outlook for the future, the report stated. During 2012, Utah's capital city added 2,600 professional, scientific and technical services jobs — a gain of more than 7 percent from the previous year.

According to the Governor's Office of Economic Development, the Milken Institute rankings mirrored a study by researchers at Harvard University and the University of California at Berkeley.

The study, "The Equality of Opportunity Project," mapped the 10 best and worst cities for economic mobility in the United States. The report ranked Salt Lake City as the top city for economic mobility.

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Viperlord. I know you posted this a while ago. You stated that it was going to be to the North of the Library. Is there any news on this? This company is the one involved in the two hotels south of the ESA.
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It's to bad the hotel they are constructing does not look something similar to the photo you (EPdesign) posted...
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Glad the good ol' Shilo is getting a facelift, but I'd really rather see it demolished. Such a great spot of a highrise. But since it has now been purchased, it's here it stay for a while. Excited to see how the "Holiday Inn" turns out.

That building that EP posted looks awesome. I'd love to see it go up!
     
     
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