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Old Posted Jan 23, 2014, 8:12 PM
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I added some music. Sorry if you hate dance music!
In the other video you could hear occasional thumping from the doors and windows, and could only assume the music inside the car was similar
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2014, 8:16 PM
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Yes.....but i have very mixed tastes in music.

I almost added a rock song to the video.......
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In the other video you could hear occasional thumping from the doors and windows, and could only assume the music inside the car was similar
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 12:18 AM
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/130-high...-in-toronto-lead-north-america-1.2504776

I am surprised nobody has brought this up here. Toronto once again leading the pack in North America for high rises with 130 under construction right now (more than the rest of Canada combined). An interesting stat... out of those 130 high rises, approximately 116 are residential (about 90%), while only 14 are commercial/hotel.

A building must be at least 35m (115ft) to be on this list.

Here's the PDF from Emporis showing what cities are building what. The top 10 cities in North America with the most high rises under construction are:

1) Toronto (130)

2) NYC (91)

3) Montreal (25)

4) Vancouver (23)

5) Calgary (22)

6) Miami (20)

7) Houston (18)

8) Chicago (14)

9) Burnaby (12)

10) Markham (12)

http://www.emporis.com/pdf/Pressrelease_20140121_ENG.pdf
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 12:34 AM
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Mexico City? Panama City, Panama?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 12:38 AM
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more mid-rises for Montréal with a couple of high-rises and skyscrapers near the Bell Center.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 1:44 AM
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I think they meant cultural North America (English Speaking) not geographic North America which would include Mexico and Panama which are probably considered Central and South America for cultrual reasons.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 2:36 AM
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I think they meant cultural North America (English Speaking) not geographic North America which would include Mexico and Panama which are probably considered Central and South America for cultrual reasons.
So now people are coming up with their own definitions of what constitutes north America? North America is north America, period. Continents weren't devised based on linguistic or cultural homogeneity. Panama and Mexico are only considered south America to people who never bothered to study in geography class. It's plain ignorance.

Jamaica, Greenland, and Honduras are every bit as north American as we are. To exclude them because they are different than us is arrogant.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 2:38 AM
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Europe was.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 2:39 AM
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Tell that to Eurasia. I mean Europe and Asia. :p
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 3:15 AM
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So now people are coming up with their own definitions of what constitutes north America? North America is north America, period. Continents weren't devised based on linguistic or cultural homogeneity. Panama and Mexico are only considered south America to people who never bothered to study in geography class. It's plain ignorance.

Jamaica, Greenland, and Honduras are every bit as north American as we are. To exclude them because they are different than us is arrogant.
I would agree that Panama and Mexico should never be considered part of South America, but I don't think it's reasonable to say that "North America" has a single consistent definition. In casual conversation continental definitions are wildly varying and context dependant. Usage of "North America" is often to avoid excluding Quebec with the term "Anglo-America", or something similar, as opposed to Latin America.

And of course, geologists consider Tokyo to be situated in North America, so there's that.

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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 4:03 AM
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Exactly, Europe is a Continent in name only, it's actually part of the Eurasian land mass. Why do we get so mad when the Northern, North Americans do it?

Ridiculous in action: How often do you call people from the Caribbean "North Americans"?

By the way, I can see the mist from Niagara Falls in that Hamilton Shot.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 4:11 AM
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I would agree that Panama and Mexico should never be considered part of South America
FWIW, Colombians (who consider themselves South Americans) would certainly disagree with the idea that Panama is North America.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 4:56 AM
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So now people are coming up with their own definitions of what constitutes north America? North America is north America, period. Continents weren't devised based on linguistic or cultural homogeneity. Panama and Mexico are only considered south America to people who never bothered to study in geography class. It's plain ignorance.

Jamaica, Greenland, and Honduras are every bit as north American as we are. To exclude them because they are different than us is arrogant.
Thats weird because in my geography class, I learned that Panama and Honduras among others are in Central America, but maybe the programs are different in Québec.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 4:59 AM
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Thats weird because in my geography class, I learned that Panama and Honduras among others are in Central America, but maybe the programs are different in Québec.
Central America is a region, not a continent.

Its not rocket science.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 5:29 AM
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The only areas in the Northern Hemisphere in the America's that aren't considered "North America" are Northern Ecuador, most of Colombia, all of Venezuela, all of Guyana, all of Suriname, all of French Guiana, and part of Amazonian Brazil. Everything north of continental South America is considered North America, including Panama, Aruba, Trinidad & Tobago, etc...


Latin America is not a continent, it's a cultural region.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 6:11 AM
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The only areas in the Northern Hemisphere in the America's that aren't considered "North America" are Northern Ecuador, most of Colombia, all of Venezuela, all of Guyana, all of Suriname, all of French Guiana, and part of Amazonian Brazil. Everything north of continental South America is considered North America, including Panama, Aruba, Trinidad & Tobago, etc...


Latin America is not a continent, it's a cultural region.
Yes, but also no. While that definition is valid, it is far from the only definition. And far from the only valid definition. We're perhaps experiencing a poverty of language here, but the fact is that North America follows lines of both human geography and physical geography, at least three or four that I can think of, with different boundaries but the same name. Only one of these is the continent of North America, with the definition you describe, which I don't think anybody disagrees with. The demarcation is almost always obvious from the context, and so the danger of ambiguity is minimal.

I think the idea that there is only one correct definition of "North America" is a bit ridiculous, not in the is-ought sense, but in the sense that it is simply ignorant to the way language is used today.

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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 6:22 AM
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Central America is a region, not a continent.

Its not rocket science.
Although it can reasonably be called a sub-continent.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 7:25 AM
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Not really, it's a region between two continents. Europe and India are subcontinents... massive peninsula's jutting off a main landmass. There is only one geographic definition of North America. There are other definitions for cultural demarcations, but none of them have anything to do with physical geography.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 7:32 AM
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