Canadian City Proposals - Page 464

Beedok · #**9261** Posted **Jan 21, 2014, 10:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

But not quite as tall as Niagara Falls! (430k)

Yeah, but they're weirdos.

Chadillaccc · #**9262** Posted **Jan 21, 2014, 10:46 PM**

Fort McMurray also has this proposed...

http://www.fortmcmurraytoday.com/2013/11/07/deadline-extended-on-request-for-proposals-for-arena

and this as well...

Quarry Ridge

http://camgill.com/portfolio/fort-mcmurray/quarry-ridge/

But Golden Buffalo is quite obviously the nicest...

WhipperSnapper · #**9263** Posted **Jan 21, 2014, 10:57 PM**

Was the Edinburgh Tower ever completed? Isn't the golden buffalo a revision of the defunct twin tower proposal with the pointy hats?

I agree. I'll believe it when I see it. That's a ton of office space for such a small market; a market built on less than 1% vacancies.

Chadillaccc · #**9264** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 12:11 AM**

Shell Place, Fort McMurray (Partially Under Construction)

SMS Stadium

Badminton Centre

Baseball Stadium

Field House

Molson Outdoor Rink

Community Pavillion

Nexen Stage

Interpretive Walking Trail

SOURCE: http://www.macdonaldisland.ca/shell-place

Chadillaccc · #**9265** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 12:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Was the Edinburgh Tower ever completed? Isn't the golden buffalo a revision of the defunct twin tower proposal with the pointy hats?

I agree. I'll believe it when I see it. That's a ton of office space for such a small market; a market built on less than 1% vacancies.

They're still proposals though, with movement on a couple (redesign of Golden Buffalo, design competition for Arena and District... for instance) so they should be included on the city page.

Also, I think Fort McMurray's municipal building (Jubilee Plaza), at 9 office floors, is at or over 35 meters tall, as it appears taller than the buildings listed on their City Page in the database, so that should probably be included as well.

MonkeyRonin · #**9266** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 1:36 AM**

Some renderings posted on SSC of a mystery "Proposed Mixed Use Development" in Brampton from CORE Architects:

http://corearchitects.com/news/2013/05/29/proposed-north-toronto-mixed-use-development/

caltrane74 · #**9267** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 1:49 AM**

The Absolute World of Brampton....

Beedok · #**9268** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 2:00 AM**

It looks really lonely in those renders.

isaidso · #**9269** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 2:05 AM**

Congrats Ft. Mac. That proposal puts a lot of cities 10 times your size to shame. Only 49m shorter than Vancouver's tallest!

suburbanite · #**9270** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 2:06 AM**

Interesting Fort Mac proposals. It would be good to see some community developments like that, and hopefully the city progresses past being a temporary residence for most.

waterloowarrior · #**9271** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 2:08 AM**

The Brampton development site is the Regency Centre plaza at 25 Kings Cross Road in Bramalea, just east of the Bramalea City Centre. It says Cardillo Capital on the sign so probably was/is owned by the CEO of Premier Fitness. The company went out of business so perhaps this is to pay the bills or there may be a new owner who wants to sell/develop the property.

http://goo.gl/maps/rpsIO

Edit: Found a 2014 minor variance on the property. Looks like the Premier Fitness CEO still owns the property. My guess is he would want to flip?
http://www.brampton.ca/EN/City-Hall/meetings-agendas/Committee%20of%20Adjustment/20140107AGENDA.pdf
http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/dir/John/Cardillo

isaidso · #**9272** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 2:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by suburbanite

Interesting Fort Mac proposals. It would be good to see some community developments like that, and hopefully the city progresses past being a temporary residence for most.

Some analysts are forecasting that Ft. Mac could easily hit 150,000 people within 20 years. It will likely become a real city with all the amenities one would find in a place like Regina. It's also ideally located on the way to Yellowknife. Ft. Mac will only continue along on its current trajectory. It's days as a temporary 'camp' are long gone.

Chadillaccc · #**9273** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 3:36 AM**

It's already a city of 80 000. The city is forecasting a permanent population of 230 000 by 2030 (16 years). The lowest scenario has them hitting 133 000 by 2028 (14 years)

isaidso · #**9274** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 3:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

It's already a city of 80 000. The city is forecasting a permanent population of 230 000 by 2030 (16 years). The lowest scenario has them hitting 133 000 by 2028 (14 years)

Quite right. I was erring on the side of caution. 150,000 in 20 years is the very low end. 250,000 in 20 years the high end. I think it's a huge bonus not only for Alberta, but Canada as well. It's one further step away from being this thin band of people hugging the US border and towards settlement of larger parts of our territory. Having a decent sized city that far north will only help Yellowknife and NWT's development.

uzi · #**9275** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 3:52 AM**

Brampton proposal looks around 200m.
or is it 200m?

Chadillaccc · #**9276** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 3:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by isaidso

Quite right. I was erring on the side of caution. 150,000 in 20 years is the very low end. 250,000 in 20 years likely the high end. I think it's a huge bonus not only for Alberta, but Canada as well. It's one further step away from being this thin band of people hugging the US border and towards settlement of larger parts of our territory. Having a decent sized city that far north will only help Yellowknife and NWT's development.

I think it's a great thing too. I love how well-distributed the population of Alberta is. I wish the other big provinces had the climate and economic conditions to expand their populations to the north. BC certainly has the conditions, and hopefully with the trillion dollars worth of shale they found up in the Peace Region, that will force the development of Fort Nelson and Fort St. John into major centres like Fort McMurray

koops65 · #**9277** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 4:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by uzi

Brampton proposal looks around 200m.
or is it 200m?

I counted 60 floors... so if it gets built as is, it'll be close to 200 metres.

Airboy · #**9278** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 5:45 AM**

Edinburgh tower is just a mess of rusting steel. i will post some update photos for shell place on the construction thread in the morning.

uzi · #**9279** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 6:41 AM**

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSafTD-IuIBK2o8f0IMqOs3lXSW8Veq2b3mJWElgMORNLoPkaqM

one more from Fort mcmurray.

ue · #**9280** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 8:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by isaidso

Quite right. I was erring on the side of caution. 150,000 in 20 years is the very low end. 250,000 in 20 years the high end. I think it's a huge bonus not only for Alberta, but Canada as well. It's one further step away from being this thin band of people hugging the US border and towards settlement of larger parts of our territory. Having a decent sized city that far north will only help Yellowknife and NWT's development.

Alberta seems to be the only province doing this for some time (with the exception of Newfoundland, which doesn't share a border with the US). Calgary and Edmonton are the only major cities more than 100km from the American border. We're also the only province without a lot of cross-border shopping (or if we do, it's in Arizona, California, Nevada, or Utah, not Montana).

Ironic, considering the stereotype that we're the most similar to the US of all the provinces. That being said, I know provinces like Ontario and Quebec would have a hard time developing further north due to the Canadian Shield. Hence why their growth is so focused on the south (among other reasons). But BC, Saskatchewan, and even Manitoba could easily stop clenching onto the border if it wanted to.