YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[Johnny Aussie]

More info here.

http://www.biv.com/article/20140114/BIV0...sed-canada-jetlines-with-hiring-spree-in

Sounds like Jetlines has also actually already hired 31 "executive" positions. I am still quite skeptical about that proposal, but sounds like some pretty big things happening at YVR for 2014.

[Spork]

My coworker (I work in aviation) came across this when searching for their AOC on Google, which provides more insight into their operations: http://gallery.mailchimp.com/3fe59de94ddb787df64b54943/files/Jetlines_Note_14_Nov_13.pdf

Source: This Search

[craneSpotter]

Good news for YVR

In Canada, Cathay sticking to its focus on Vancouver and Toronto

Van Sun Jan 14, 2014

As airline competition intensifies to meet growing demand for travel between Asia and North America, Cathay Pacific is focusing its Canadian operations on Vancouver and Toronto.

“The growth in seats from mainland China alone into Canada (during 2013) is about 70 per cent,” Cathay’s incoming chief operating officer Rupert Hogg told a Hong Kong-Canada Business Association luncheon on Tuesday.

Delta Air Lines is preparing to launch Seattle-to-Hong Kong flights, and last summer, China Eastern Airlines increased flights between Vancouver and Shanghai to twice daily.

Cathay flies twice-daily non-stop Vancouver-Hong Kong, and 10 times a week between Toronto and Hong Kong. The airline employs 700 in Canada, 500 of whom are in Vancouver, which is also Cathay’s call centre for North America.

[Gordon]

Are there any construction updates for the Pier A\B connector project?

The temporary set up for Pier B seems to work pretty well.

[Valley_Refugee]

Regarding Rouge's expansion into YVR, the obvious routes it will take over are Las Vegas, Puerto Vallarta, Cabo, Ixtapa, and all the Hawaiian routes. Speculation as to new routes? A return to Cancun is likely, I'd say. Perhaps Orlando? Caribbean?

[teriyaki]

A birdie tells me there are rumblings of a mainland China route. Not too sure about the credibility of this.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by teriyaki

A birdie tells me there are rumblings of a mainland China route. Not too sure about the credibility of this.

You mean another mainland China route?

My bet would be on Xiamen Airlines.

Hint is towards the bottom of this article from November

http://www.bcbusiness.ca/manufacturing-transport/yvr-looks-into-new-routes-to-china-south-america

[Bigtime]

Yikes:

"An Alaska Airlines Boeing 737-400, registration N756AS performing flight AS-703 from Los Angeles,CA (USA) to Vancouver,BC (Canada), was on final approach to Vancouver's runway 08L at 1900 feet about 6.5nm behind an Air Canada Airbus A330-300, registration C-GFAJ performing flight AC-855 from London Heathrow,EN (UK) to Vancouver,BC (Canada), when the aircraft rolled left to 70 degrees of bank twice. The crew continued the approach for a safe landing."

http://avherald.com/h?article=46e90ec2&opt=1

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Valley_Refugee

Regarding Rouge's expansion into YVR, the obvious routes it will take over are Las Vegas, Puerto Vallarta, Cabo, Ixtapa, and all the Hawaiian routes. Speculation as to new routes? A return to Cancun is likely, I'd say. Perhaps Orlando? Caribbean?

I wonder what the competition on routes to Hawaii and Mexico would mean for WestJet? How hard a hit would they take?
As for Orlando, that'd be great. I wonder if there's enough YVR > Caribbean holiday pax volume to justify flights there? Be nifty if there were.

[Gordon]

Air Canada already competes with Westjet on Some Hawaii & Mexico routes.

Mapsbyair.com has a fairly recent aerial photo of the pier a\B area @yvr

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Valley_Refugee

Regarding Rouge's expansion into YVR, the obvious routes it will take over are Las Vegas, Puerto Vallarta, Cabo, Ixtapa, and all the Hawaiian routes. Speculation as to new routes? A return to Cancun is likely, I'd say. Perhaps Orlando? Caribbean?

Closer to home they should be flying the 319's to Palm Springs rather than leave that market to Westjet.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Closer to home they should be flying the 319's to Palm Springs rather than leave that market to Westjet.

Yup. Basically take a look at Sunwing/Air Transat/Westjet route maps and those will be the main targets I am sure. Will be good to have even more competition on the sun routes. We will all know in a couple weeks! It will depend of course on how many frames they base in YVR.

[Valley_Refugee]

Yup. Basically take a look at Sunwing/Air Transat/Westjet route maps and those will be the main targets I am sure. Will be good to have even more competition on the sun routes. We will all know in a couple weeks! It will depend of course on how many frames they base in YVR.

Yes, a solid bet. I am hoping they'll base a few 767's here for some new summer seasonal Europe routes. Paris, Rome, Edinburgh?

[Johnny Aussie]

Westjet has just released their summer 2014 schedules.

YVR highlights:

New daily Encore to YMM

LAX increasing to 19 weekly from 14
PSP now year-round 2 weekly for the summer

Transborder will now have 10 daily flights.

A bit of shuffling around with mainline and Encore.

Mainline will be down 14 flights per week.
Encore will have 84 flights per week up from 14 last summer (YXT, YKA and YMM are new routes compared to last summer with additional YYJ and YXJ flying)

So the total Westjet operation increases to 63 daily flights up from 55 last summer.

[Pinion]

No news on flights to EMD, GFY and WTF?

[Valley_Refugee]

Originally Posted by Pinion

No news on flights to EMD, GFY and WTF?

Seriously?

[SpongeG]

is there a code to these things? what is PSP?

[Pinion]

Originally Posted by Valley_Refugee

Seriously?

Just wish I could understand what was being said without googling every acronym. A crude way of expressing it I admit.

[trofirhen]

Observing great circle maps, and world longitudinal and latitudinal lines, thoroughly aware that Vancouver's destinations are obviously transpacific (and that includes Delhi),
I tried to find - (but could not, someone else surely can, and might even post, if interested) -
the antipodes of 123W longitude; that's us.
(latitude is secondary here, for the moment.)
Anyway the opposite longitudinal line from Vancouver goes up the Indian Ocean, bisects eastern Oman, crosses the Gulf around the straits of Hormuz, and so northward through Iran, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, and so through Siberia and over the pole.

It doesn't appear that VYR is going to gt any Persian Gulf destination, any time soon, but there are one or two major connection points that could make YVR just one change of plane away from anywhere.


Looking at the Indian Ocean, and referring to the Great Circle mapper, two key destinations would cover major regions.

One of course is Delhi, which seems to show signs of possible reappearing life.

The other (although held down firmly by YYZ, with only a three-day-per week offering to YUL) is ***Turkish. .......... but there's always hope.

IST is the closest point the Gulf States, to most of the Middle East, including Iran, central Asia and the Caucasus republics, and even including the Seychelles, giving a shorter distance than by LHR. (for whatever that's worth.)

I guess the point I'm making is that Qatar and Dubai, though prestigious ports of call, aren't everything.
Get Istanbul and Delhi hooked up and we're a maximum one-stop airport to just about anywhere.

[Valley_Refugee]

is there a code to these things? what is PSP?

PSP is Palm Springs International Airport's IATA code.

I admit that we get pretty aviation geeky on here (though Calgary's thread is even more intense), but the answers to these questions are relatively easy to find with a small amount of Googling/digging