ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[ATLaffinity]

First, I would like to apologize that this post is not about a skyscraper. I've already self flagellated in penance...

PULLMAN YARD REDEVELOPMENT

KNO President Jeff Childers sent along some additional details about the project after the meeting. According to Childers, the project will include:

- 150 townhouses with two common areas

- Each unit will have 3 or 4 bedrooms and cost around $325,000.

- The historic structures will be office and event space with a potential restaurant space.

Personally, I prefer the idea of a sports/rec center.

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[Ant131531]

Has the DRC meeting started for the new proposals?

[bryantm3]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

Has the DRC meeting started for the new proposals?

that's at 5:30. see if you can make it! i can't make it.

[joecool]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

Except as been said so many times before, it's not all about skylines. Urban walkable environment should be the most important thing. So what if they are 30 stories? They still provide a big city feeling and if they include retail and apartment units, then that's great as that adds density to the city.

I'm more impressed looking at aerials of Historic Paris then looking at Atlanta's skyline.

I agree completely! I'll take anything we can get but I am perfectly happy with some infill, even if it's only 30, 20 or even 10 story buildings. We need some infill to create a more urban environment.

[micropundit]

Bright 'n early this morning, more than 400 of Atlanta's CRE pros turned out to St. Regis for Bisnow's Atlanta 2014 Forecast and heard Jamestown Propertries' Matt Bronfman tell the audience that a portion of Ponce City Market will be turned into a startup incubator. Matt says Jamestown is attempting to lure startup companies “because we want to have that vibrancy and energy. We don't just want to have the big companies. We want to have that future workforce.” When asked after the panel, Matt says Jamestown could reserve as much as 5k SF as incubator space.

http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-real-estate/atlanta/611-whopper-of-a-retail-sale/

[jnihiser]

Drove by The Optimist today and noticed they are currently demoing a few buildings and clearing the entire block. Fence is up around the entire block. Does this mean that the project is a "go"?

[TarHeelJ]

Originally Posted by thebigATL

Oh wow, all this proposed development is great to my prior knowledge all I'm saying is when they're considering building it??? Just like the 3 tivoli towers (we haven't heard from them since november) still no answers. To be honest first we need to fill between South of midtown and north of downtown to fill the skyline atleast 40 stories so it wony look to gappy.I know I'm off topic, but the only thing that's really sucessful for midtown n buckhead etc. Is 30 stories we have been seeing them for 3 years now its time to boost the height up to another level. We need sucessful companies that does not need private funding. We also need someone who will have a plan that has everything on point and starting building the tower asap. This is how they do overseas and probaly nyc . Atlanta is my hometown and a part of my heart but, we need better towers, to me if they build a tower that short,They should make it awkward or vegas like.But its not like I don't like the projects don't get me wrong,its just majority of the time theylook similar.All we just need better developers that will contribute to better the skyline and the city, not the ones that do all the work and we construction comes, the project dies and someone buys the land and does the samething constantly. This is my personal opinion. I really love the new ideas just want them to be sucessful.

It only looks gappy to people who don't know what is there and are going by a skyline photo. It doesn't look gappy at all to me...I know there are buildings between the towers and I'm fine with it. We have a nice skyline, so I am more interested in infill to beef up the street level view. We obviously all want more towers, but that isn't the most glaring need for Atlanta.

You have to be patient with the process. Atlanta's skyline has probably doubled in size in the last 20 years, so construction is moving along at a great pace. But they can't build towers if there isn't enough demand...and demand has been increasing for the past couple of years. Atlanta is no different than any other city, with proposals that come and go with most of them never being built. It happens all over.

[TarHeelJ]

Originally Posted by Tuckerman

IMO Atlant has many impressive skyline views. Driving 75/85 from the south just after the Grady curve is impressive day or night; so is Buckhead coming up 400; and in particular Midtown from Piedmont Park. However, the Piedmont Park one is spectacular because you are walking. The other views really need a car. Walking up Peachtree from Downtown to Buckhead is not too exciting; driving it is a little better. What is lacking is pedestrian traffic which occurs only some of the time Downtown or around 14th St. The high rise apartments accumulating on this spine will, I believe, ultimately begin to produce some street traffic; however, you need more than just highrises, you need a mixture of apartment types and shops, mostly restaurants and food stores, and a few other types, on the street. Much of the street traffic in such cities as Paris, NY, Berlin consists of locals walking a short distance from their home to buy bread, milk, a paper, and/or to have a coffee or drink with a friend from nearby. These streets do not just depend on workers in tall buildings - many of these workers eat at their desk, inside the building, and in the case of ATL, arrive and leave by car. Of course, there is a boatload of tourists in the mix, but in ATL's case I can't see why a tourist would walk up Peachtree from Downtown to say the High Museum - the two seem very unconnected.

They have the weird tiny refrigerators so they are forced to buy food every day. It's very difficult to do, having lived it for a while over there myself. I hate shopping and want to get it out of the way all at one time once a week. And carrying home groceries is no fun either. People love to romanticize the way many Europeans live, but it's mostly done out of necessity - not because it's fun or better in some way. If they could have the conveniences we have they certainly would.

I love to walk Peachtree between downtown and Midtown. I have done it many times and it is a very interesting trek. You get to see things that you can't quite catch just driving by.

[TarHeelJ]

Originally Posted by Immovable_Media

Academy of Medicine in Midtown Atlanta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6wuMxNM5mw
I wish more buildings were saved and reused this way... Nice work GA Tech!

That is one gorgeous historic building. I attended a banquet there a few years ago and discovered how beautiful it was...another one that you can easily miss while driving by.

[Tuckerman]

Originally Posted by TarHeelJ

They have the weird tiny refrigerators so they are forced to buy food every day. It's very difficult to do, having lived it for a while over there myself. I hate shopping and want to get it out of the way all at one time once a week. And carrying home groceries is no fun either. People love to romanticize the way many Europeans live, but it's mostly done out of necessity - not because it's fun or better in some way. If they could have the conveniences we have they certainly would.

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We didn't have very big refrigerators when we lived in Europe - but they weren't weird - just damn small. I agree it was often a pain to go out every day to buy staples. Also, although we had a very large flat in Edinburgh, most people, and especially in London, were happy with a large closet. Same in Paris. I think these small settings make people want to spend more time at a local drinking establishment with friends. It is a different style of life and I agree we shouldn't be too quick to romanticize it. I just would like to see a little more of that style in American cities. Unlike Europe, most of our cities have grown up around the car - and we have to fit that reality in.

[foxmccleod]

Originally Posted by kamden99

So, who is the developer? Someone new to the Atlanta market? Since you have clearly seen the design, what are your thoughts? I can't wait to see it tomorrow!

I think it looks very good and will stand out in midtown. Current renderings show it having some color and one of those kinetic sculptures, assuming things don't get VE'd too much. I don't know who the developer is.

[kamden99]

Originally Posted by foxmccleod

I think it looks very good and will stand out in midtown. Current renderings show it having some color and one of those kinetic sculptures, assuming things don't get VE'd too much. I don't know who the developer is.

I went to the meeting and all I can say is WOW! It will be amazing if it gets built! The developer is Egbert Perry (Integral Group). The parking deck looks like a work of art. Very well thought out design.

[clexmond]

Originally Posted by foxmccleod

I think it looks very good and will stand out in midtown. Current renderings show it having some color and one of those kinetic sculptures, assuming things don't get VE'd too much. I don't know who the developer is.

Any chance you could post those renderings? They're public as of this evening anyway but we don't always seem to get pictures from DRC meetings very quickly.

[PremierAtlanta]

To the poster: thebigATL

I love tall buildings just as you do. I love a vibrant city even more however. Atlanta is densifying at an amazing rate. That will make the city center experience much better. When you have some cities jumping up and down about 5-9 story buildings, you can't complain about the 20-30 story proposals in Atlanta. Many of these proposals in Atlanta are including retail and are oriented towards the pedestrian experience. As others have said, it's the urban experience that is most important. Atlanta already has a world class skyline.

[Jarod Apperson]

I went to the DRC. Really like the 811 project by Perkins + Will. I couldn't figure out how to post a picture, but I put some up on the Atlanta Dev site.

811 Renderings:

http://forum.atlantadev.com/#!/construction

[Jarod Apperson]

The developer is Integral (Egbert Perry)

[tdawg]

the 811 Peachtree renderings looks very promising.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by TarHeelJ

I love to walk Peachtree between downtown and Midtown. I have done it many times and it is a very interesting trek. You get to see things that you can't quite catch just driving by.

I used to walk from our office near Five Points up to Crawford Long every Wednesday morning for about 6 years, rain or shine. It's almost exactly one mile and it is one of the best strolls in the city.

[joecool]

I LOVE THAT!!!!!!

When is ground breaking? Thank GOD is not some cheap looking piece of crap. It's simple yet it's not. I LOVE it!!!

[kamden99]

Took this pic of 811 Peachtree renderings at tonight's DRC Meeting. Looking forward to getting more details!