Stadiums and Arenas of Canada

[elly63]

Originally Posted by osmo

The City owns the ace but MLSE books it's events and gets a cut,

What's the ace? If you mean ACC, it's owned by MLSE. the city owns BMO.

[FrankieFlowerpot]

Heard an interesting proposal on the radio last night.

If Hamilton gets the Grey Cup in 2016 - they will keep the seats up and then the US/Canada World Junior game would be played outdoors at THF on New Years Eve.

Now that would be pretty cool.

[osmo]

Originally Posted by elly63

What's the ace? If you mean ACC, it's owned by MLSE. the city owns BMO.

iPhone Typo. I meant to say the City owns "the place" (BMO) but MLSE manages and runs it.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by FrankieFlowerpot

Heard an interesting proposal on the radio last night.

If Hamilton gets the Grey Cup in 2016 - they will keep the seats up and then the US/Canada World Junior game would be played outdoors at THF on New Years Eve.

Now that would be pretty cool.

Yeah, it looks like the in vogue thing is to tie your Grey Cup bid with an outdoor game. Problem is they are killing the Golden Goose with the number of these games and frankly putting them in non iconic (read historic) stadiums IMO means nothing. Having said that, Canada/US isn't just another run of the mill NHL regular season game.

[osmo]

I also find it silly to put a supposed International competition game in a situation where the elements can impact it. The fact that it's even being thought of dosn't help the already shoddy credibility of TSN's faux international tourney. It's one thing for the NHL but throwing the World Jrs outdoors is stupid IMO. And I agree we are having outdoor fatigue. Let's revisit this again after the "Stadium Series" runs it's course. I'm convinced the NHL is killing it's best tool in a generation and age where things become boring and old news quick once they hype goes down.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by osmo

I also find it silly to put a supposed International competition game in a situation where the elements can impact it.

Agree

Originally Posted by osmo

The fact that it's even being thought of dosn't help the already shoddy credibility of TSN's faux international tourney.

Don't agree, the Swedes embraced the tournament this year. It's not just a Canadian show any more.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by ScreamingViking

Does that mean we're getting 🞵🞵🞵🞵?

I'll still go watch games there. Anything beats football at Skydome.

[osmo]

Originally Posted by isaidso

I'll still go watch games there. Anything beats football at Skydome.

Skydome has the aesthetics and ambiance as a Hospital at times, but the place deserves a lot of credit since it was basically obsolete less than 4 years after it opened.

The roof was ground breaking but they had no fore-knowledge (or didn't want to foot the costs) to put in proper drainage so it could actually be truly multi-purpose/multi-use year round. A host of other issues also come with that place but it's kinda like that old stereo you have that's a relic but still pumps out great bass for its age, you keep it around.

Look at how St Louis (Edward Jones Dome) who's dome isn't even 20 years old yet, and Atlanta (Georgia Dome, 1992) are both moaning, crying, and complaining about how their facilities are obsolete some how. Both facilities, especially in Atlanta, are fine. They should take a page from Skydome which just gets the job done well, but not perfect, with few complaints.

Nobody (yet) is crying for the Skydome to be blown up as it still serves a ton of practical uses. It's been quite resilient and that regard and is starting to be come a outlier (both good and bad) in regards to North American facilities.

[many]

Originally Posted by osmo

Skydome has the aesthetics and ambiance as a Hospital at times, but the place deserves a lot of credit since it was basically obsolete less than 4 years after it opened.

The roof was ground breaking but they had no fore-knowledge (or didn't want to foot the costs) to put in proper drainage so it could actually be truly multi-purpose/multi-use year round. A host of other issues also come with that place but it's kinda like that old stereo you have that's a relic but still pumps out great bass for its age, you keep it around.

Look at how St Louis (Edward Jones Dome) who's dome isn't even 20 years old yet, and Atlanta (Georgia Dome, 1992) are both moaning, crying, and complaining about how their facilities are obsolete some how. Both facilities, especially in Atlanta, are fine. They should take a page from Skydome which just gets the job done well, but not perfect, with few complaints.

Nobody (yet) is crying for the Skydome to be blown up as it still serves a ton of practical uses. It's been quite resilient and that regard and is starting to be come a outlier (both good and bad) in regards to North American facilities.

Just in case you didn't know the Atlanta falcons will soon be leaving the Georgia Dome for a new building and St Louis Rans wanted a new stadium but instead are supposed to be getting a massive renovation on the Edward Jones Dome. The amount they will renovate their building is a lot more then Rogers will or will ever spend on fixing the huge amount of problems that Rogers Centre has vs new ballparks that are baseball only.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by many

Just in case you didn't know the Atlanta falcons will soon be leaving the Georgia Dome for a new building and St Louis Rans wanted a new stadium but instead are supposed to be getting a massive renovation on the Edward Jones Dome. The amount they will renovate their building is a lot more then Rogers will or will ever spend on fixing the huge amount of problems that Rogers Centre has vs new ballparks that are baseball only.

What problems?

[GernB]

Originally Posted by many

Just in case you didn't know the Atlanta falcons will soon be leaving the Georgia Dome for a new building and St Louis Rans wanted a new stadium but instead are supposed to be getting a massive renovation on the Edward Jones Dome. The amount they will renovate their building is a lot more then Rogers will or will ever spend on fixing the huge amount of problems that Rogers Centre has vs new ballparks that are baseball only.

Is Skydome all that much worse than the ballparks in Milwaukee, Phoenix and Houston?

[osmo]

The irony is Atlanta pumped quite a bit of money renovating the G-Dome and it still wasn't enough to make the Falcons happy.

Originally Posted by GernB

Is Skydome all that much worse than the ballparks in Milwaukee, Phoenix and Houston?

If Skydome was built 5-7 years later it would be like Chase Field in Phoenix. That is the best example of baseball "multi-use" I can think of. It's a climate controlled stadium with drainage that sits open more ones than not to keep the grass growing. It's also modded well enough to host football and basketball if needed as they configured it to give decent sight lines for the grandstands.

[esquire]

^ They can play football at Chase Field? In a "football at Wrigley Field" gimmicky kind of way or does the seating actually move to accommodate a gridiron?

[FrankieFlowerpot]

They did play bowl games in the early 2000's there

[GernB]

Originally Posted by osmo

The irony is Atlanta pumped quite a bit of money renovating the G-Dome and it still wasn't enough to make the Falcons happy.



If Skydome was built 5-7 years later it would be like Chase Field in Phoenix. That is the best example of baseball "multi-use" I can think of. It's a climate controlled stadium with drainage that sits open more ones than not to keep the grass growing. It's also modded well enough to host football and basketball if needed as they configured it to give decent sight lines for the grandstands.

Skydome was originally intended to have grass, it was "common knowledge" at the time as you would say and I read it in Popular Science back in the day, as was a seating capacity of 56,000 for baseball. I'm supposing it was a budget issue that kept this from happening. All I ever heard was that it was a concern about maintenance that stopped it from hapening.

Basketball was played at Skydome early on in Raptors history. I may be wrong and thinking about BC Place but I seem to remember that Skydome was built to accomodate hockey as well.

[many]

Originally Posted by GernB

Is Skydome all that much worse than the ballparks in Milwaukee, Phoenix and Houston?

I was at a Houston game a few years ago and had a better overall experience then I ever had at Rogers centre, just one of the ways is the food. The best way for someone to tell the difference between the stadiums is by going to both stadiums and make your own judgement.

[kevinbottawa]

Ottawa's stadium and surrounding shops and park will be known as TD Place.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/Ottawa+landmark+Lansdowne+Park+renamed/9356287/story.html

[eemy]

I would prefer if they could keep Lansdowne Park in it somehow - TD Lansdowne Park for example.

[EdFromOttawa]

The area is still lansdowne park. Just the arena and stadium are named TD Place. I kind of like it actually.

I love the slick new logo to go with it.

[kevinbottawa]

Originally Posted by EdFromOttawa

The area is still lansdowne park. Just the arena and stadium are named TD Place. I kind of like it actually.

I love the slick new logo to go with it.

Tweet from the RedBlacks:

@REDBLACKS: Combined arena/stadium seating capacity of 34,000 - #TDPlace will be Ottawa's largest sports and entertainment venue http://t.co/p21cN0ecQd