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Old Posted Dec 27, 2013, 8:37 AM
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I'm excited for the Garbett Development on 300 N. The area already a very mixed architectural style and I feel that Garbett's development will add another more modern element to the area. I think there are several areas in the Marmalade District, that could be redeveloped with some modern architecture and would make that area even more desirable than it already is.
Im excited for the development.. However.. They need to keep the triangle... I have a lot of friends and family that have been members of the community for generation.. Everyone I have spoken to is 100% negative on removing the triangle... Me included.
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Old Posted Dec 27, 2013, 8:49 AM
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Wouldn't the triangle be much more usable if the W Temple connection, east of the triangle was eliminated, connecting the triangle green space with more green space? As the bulletin said, they plan to annex (bad word choice IMO) as part of the green space. While I understand that it is nice to have that green space there, being surrounded by streets, it seems pretty under utilized to me.
     
     
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So the GOP convention wont be held in Salt Lake City, one of the reasons being, there is not enough places for people to stay down town. Per Fox 13 news. I guess it becomes more amd more clear we need a big hotel
What concerned me is that the article also stated that the legislature was set to vote against funding once again. So, will one of the other prescribed methods of funding move forward, or are they just going to keep delaying the hotel for another year or more? Makid or anyone hearing some positive news?
     
     
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The last I heard, the votes are there for passage of the bill in the upcoming session.

I think that stories like this are presented to the general public to get them to support the bill. The large amount of Republican's in the state would love to have the convention here and being that the major road block is the CCH, this will help to build support for it.

It also helps get the word out to potential developers outside the state that may be sitting on money looking for places for development. If partnerships emerge, costs can generally be reduced, thus lowering the subsidies provided. This also would allow for potentially a bigger hotel. It also would encourage a taller hotel as sort of an ego statement of arrival.

I am very optimistic that we will have some good news on the CCH front in 2014.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 27, 2013, 4:57 PM
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Makid, it has come to my attention that there is a great deal of Korean capital looking for a good home to invest in. Particularly, somewhere other than So. California, which doesn't have the friendliest reputation for business at this juncture. Given the successful partnerships formed with NuSkin and the hordes of Koreans who visit Salt Lake annually, I think it would be a natural to further pursue development with diverse Korean entities. Those Koreans which I know personally and are familiar with Salt Lake City, are head over heels in love with the area. They are crazy about the outdoor lifestyle, cleanliness etc. I don't think it would be too big a stretch to put the right networks together with your political friends and the Governor's offices.

Koreans are a huge economic force on the West Coast, and would like to make inroads into some new and exciting metros, like a vibrant high growth area such as the Wasatch Front.
     
     
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The last I heard, the votes are there for passage of the bill in the upcoming session.

I think that stories like this are presented to the general public to get them to support the bill. The large amount of Republican's in the state would love to have the convention here and being that the major road block is the CCH, this will help to build support for it.
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I'm sure many of our law makers would've loved to have a Republican Convention here. Maybe now they can understand our frustration with the CHH that they turned down.
     
     
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The middle of Regent street is now closed off with fencing to get ready for demolition.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 28, 2013, 8:15 AM
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Story on Fox 13 regarding the CCH. 25 conventions have said they didn't come to SLC, many of them multi year deals, specifically because of the lack of hotel rooms. The Comic Con Fan X organizer is a big supporter and thinks SLC needs the hotel.

http://fox13now.com/2013/12/27/comic-con-producer-backs-convention-center-hotel/
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 28, 2013, 8:22 AM
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Another high ranking regarding projected economic growth for 2014.


The Metro Areas With The Most Economic Momentum Going Into 2014

America’s economy may be picking up steam, but it remains a story of parts, with the various regions of the country performing in often radically divergent ways.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkotkin/2...-most-economic-momentum-going-into-2014/
     
     
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I ran across some early schematic renderings for Tower 8. they are dated 11/2008. So, I'd bet that they have already changed, or will change by the time we get the final product built. Anyways........





ViperLord. Is there any news on this?
     
     
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I just realized, tower 8 looks a lot like 111 main.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 28, 2013, 10:09 PM
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It is a little bland, especially considering that there won't be anything of comparable height around it for a very long time, considering what is already on nearby corners.

The last time Tower 8 was discussed I came up with another option. It's the same total square footage, but it a taller, sleeker structure. Simply taking the even height from the back two thirds and putting that same height on the front third. I guess it could also be accomplished by having several set back along each front and having the tallest portion be on the north side or in the NE corner.

     
     
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Tower 8 is so far off still ( after 2016 ) that I'm sure we still see plenty of changes to the renderings before ground is broken. Don't think we will even hear about tower 8 til after 111 south main is finish.
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The middle of Regent street is now closed off with fencing to get ready for demolition.
Awesome. Looks like we are about a week or two out. Not long now.
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What construction company is taking care of the demolition? Is that same company building the tower and PAC?
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 29, 2013, 1:25 AM
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What construction company is taking care of the demolition? Is that same company building the tower and PAC?
Layton Construction will be doing the demolition of all the structures working from SE to NW, and will be doing the construction on the PAC and the foundation work for 111. The tower portion of 111 hasn't announced a builder that I am aware of.
     
     
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Thank you. I'll be sure to contact them and try to get some information on how everything will be demolished. I'd like to get some photos for you all.
     
     
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There are ways to improve our skyline, however it requires things that many people don't like. Here are a few examples of those things;

Curbing Sprawl - If we continue to allow the sprawling pattern of home construction into the exurbs, without any true associated costs, the jobs are going to follow, reducing the number of buildings needed in our three downtowns, (I'm including Ogden and Provo into this discussion.) The true cost of suburban sprawl is not being shouldered by those that choose to live in those areas. I don't feel that incentives need to be offered to more compact and urban living, but the true cost of sprawl definitely needs to be shouldered by those choosing sprawl.


Economic incentives to businesses expanding or moving into the state - Yes economic incentives help our growth and overall economic vitality, but allowing them to move into green fields and suburban office parks is hurting our downtowns. I think the Governors office of economic development needs to adjusts the incentives it provides depending on where those companies choose to locate, don't simply give them the same incentive if they move to a Lehi office park as they would receive if they located in downtown.


Gas tax - The gas tax needs to be raised and all or at least the majority of the gas tax needs to go to transit. The increase needs to be focused on two areas of transit, most importantly is reducing the cost of transit travel and secondly, to improve access to more residents.


It all comes back to true costs and what is truly more green. Cities already have the infrastructure to accommodate more growth and have the transit systems to allow more people to enter and exit the city without the need for more roads. What is ironic is that the more the city grows in height and density, and the more the suburbs grow in density around transit, the taller and more impressive our downtown skyline(s) become, and the greener less polluted we become.
It's been awhile since I was last on this thread. I've been reading through the more recent pages to try and get caught up again. Hopefully I won't get behind again.
I have thought allot about the skyline issue, as I'm sure most of us have. I joined the forums mostly because I love skyscrapers and although I enjoy reading about any development that grows the city and improves the urban life within it, I enjoy this forum much more when there are high-rise developments to talk about. But I digress.
It seems to me like cities with allot of high-rise development have an unusually high demand for real estate in the area where this development occurs. For example, I have always wanted to live on the beach in Miami. Not just on the beach but in the center of the action. So I would imagine that is why Miami has one of the highest skyscraper counts in an American city. I would imagine there is also a high demand for office space in Manhattan or the loop in Chicago.
My thought is that if we want to create a more impressive skyline there needs to be a distinct advantage to living and working downtown vs. in the burbs.
I don't know what the solution is but I think we need to find a way to make Salt Lake more like south beach or the Loop. What stands out in my mind is the lack of entertainment options downtown especially at night and also the lack of full time residents in the CBD. I think the two feed off each other.
     
     
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SLC needs to continue doing what it has been doing. Smart-growth, not overbuild, and the rest will take care of itself. SLC is 1 of the most beautiful cities in the US, if not the world. The majestic mountains are breathtaking!!
     
     
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I love Salt Lake City. I really like the back drop too. I also realized that issues such as surface parking lots are something ever city has.....what I don't like is that our parking lots cover large amounts of space. Entire Blocks at times, and compared to other cities, our blocks are HUGE! On north temple you have a block and a half of parking lot. 400 s to 500 s south of the court house another block of solely dedicated to surface parking. We even have spaces were tall buildings can go but we keep bringing down old buildings. We are concentrating our high rises on main and state. Granted. It makes for a beautiful skyline. I would like it to spread a little more. I still think Salt Lake is being very smart about its growth so I can't complain.
     
     
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