HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Ontario > Ottawa-Gatineau > Downtown & Urban Ottawa


View Poll Results: Which of the designs would you like to see become the new Lansdowne 'Front Lawn'?
Option A: "One Park, Four Landscapes" 12 11.88%
Option B: "Win Place Show" 23 22.77%
Option C: "A Force of Nature" 14 13.86%
Option D: "All Roads Lead to Aberdeen" 16 15.84%
Option E: "The Canal Park in Ottawa" 18 17.82%
None of the above. Please keep my ashphalt. 18 17.82%
Voters: 101. You may not vote on this poll

Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #3401  
Old Posted Dec 13, 2013, 1:24 PM
c_speed3108 c_speed3108 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,859
Well if the fact that there is a line up in the cold for the re-opening of loblaws is any indication, there is plenty of retail demand in that part of the city, at least on the food front.

https://twitter.com/johncrupictv/status/411485522096578560/photo/1
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3402  
Old Posted Dec 13, 2013, 6:50 PM
rocketphish's Avatar
rocketphish rocketphish is offline
Planet Ottawa and beyond
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Greater Ottawa
Posts: 14,706
Retail demand? or just a free gift card ;-)

Quote:
Hundreds line up for reopening of Loblaws

CTV Ottawa, Published Friday, December 13, 2013 10:42AM EST




Hundreds of shoppers lined up in the frigid weather for the grand reopening of the Loblaws grocery store on Isabella Street.

The store was closed for four months for renovations.

It's one of the few grocery stores in Ottawa's downtown area.

The new store is modelled after the look of the Loblaws store at the Maple Leaf Gardens.

It includes a 15 feet high cheese wall and more than 60 organic items.

The first 250 shoppers recieved a $10 gift card.

The Loblaws store in Isabella has been a fixture in Ottawa for 55 years.

http://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/hundreds-line-up-for-reopening-of-loblaws-1.1590951
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3403  
Old Posted Dec 13, 2013, 8:11 PM
nredding nredding is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 188
Sounds like a big improvement to the Loblaw's. The previous store was pretty run down.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3404  
Old Posted Dec 14, 2013, 5:24 AM
gmarshall gmarshall is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by EdFromOttawa View Post
Would it be okay for you to post them here for us to see more easily??
As the city is paying for them for their use, I'm not comfortable simply reposting without permission.

However, I'm certainly well within my rights to click the shutter a few extra times each time I'm in the air for a few more photos for my own use. I'll be sure to do that next time I'm up and post the results here.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3405  
Old Posted Dec 14, 2013, 10:17 AM
EdFromOttawa EdFromOttawa is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 365
Quote:
Originally Posted by gmarshall View Post
As the city is paying for them for their use, I'm not comfortable simply reposting without permission.

However, I'm certainly well within my rights to click the shutter a few extra times each time I'm in the air for a few more photos for my own use. I'll be sure to do that next time I'm up and post the results here.
Would love that, thank you!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3406  
Old Posted Dec 17, 2013, 3:07 PM
kevinbottawa kevinbottawa is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,260
Lansdowne update from the City website. I'm especially excited about this:

Quote:
The new roadways in the retail area have all been paved; during the spring and summer of 2014 stone pavers will be laid on the roads.

A worker installs windows in one of the new retail buildings.


Special cells to promote healthy tree root growth are laid in the future farmers’ market square and are filled with planting soil.


Workers install exterior finishes on one of the new retail buildings.


The vertical beams of the Veil are now in place behind the south stands.


Masonry walls are now built for the player’s entrance at the back of the south stands.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3407  
Old Posted Dec 18, 2013, 11:57 PM
waterloowarrior's Avatar
waterloowarrior waterloowarrior is offline
National Capital Region
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Eastern Ontario
Posts: 9,255
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3408  
Old Posted Dec 19, 2013, 2:32 AM
rocketphish's Avatar
rocketphish rocketphish is offline
Planet Ottawa and beyond
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Greater Ottawa
Posts: 14,706
Lansdowne traffic remains a worry

It’s not managing the special events - it’s the day-to-day that’s worrisome

By Joanne Chianello, OTTAWA CITIZEN December 18, 2013 9:00 PM


Depending on your viewpoint, there’s lots to love or loathe about the massive Lansdowne Park redevelopment.

If you’re a football fan, you’re likely delighted by the seemingly daily RedBlacks announcements as they ramp up toward their first game in early summer. The skeptical wonder if the sport will be successful in Ottawa the third time around.

If you’re something of a shopaholic, maybe you can’t wait for the 400,000 square feet of retail space expected to be opened by this time next year (with about half the shops and restaurants opening their doors six months from now, and the rest over the second half of 2014). But if you were taken with the early talk about how a reimagined Lansdowne was to become a "unique urban village," you’ll be sorely disappointed by the numerous chains that have committed to setting up shop there, including the LCBO, Rexall, a national bank, and possibly - according to a report by the Citizen’s David Reevely - a Cineplex theatre complex (although probably a fancy one that serves grown-up drinks).

But there’s one element in the Lansdowne revamp formula that everyone can agree on: traffic. Or, more precisely, that there’s a concrete plan to avoid (or at least alleviate) the inevitable gridlock that will ensue from the thousands of expected new visitors to the site.

So far, it’s really not clear what that plan is.

Sure, there’s a concept of how to handle the crowds on game day, although there still are many details to be worked out.

For example, here’s a new problem: although only club seat and suite clients will be allowed to park in the garage on game day, about 600 spots will be open to the public. After all, the retailers spending top dollar to locate at Lansdowne don’t all want to rely only on game-goers for their business.

Figuring out how to stop those spaces from being used by football attendees is just one more thing on the to-do list before the Redblacks have their home opener next June or July.

But the truth is, it’s not the special events that have everyone worried. Yes, it’ll be a headache to figure out how to get 24,000 people to and from a sold-out Frank Clair Stadium, but it’ll get figured out. Eventually.

The real challenge is how Bank Street and the surrounding Glebe area can absorb 5,000 or 10,000 people a day visiting Lansdowne.

"There’s a real misperception," said Coun. David Chernushenko, who’s work in Capital ward has been largely taken up with issues relating to the Lansdowne development.

"People generally don’t have a big issue with special events, unless they become so numerous that they’re every second day," he said, pointing out that a CFL team has fewer than a dozen home games a season. "People realize that you go into special events mode."

But what about the rest of the time?

Ottawa Sports and Entertainment Group, which owns the Redblacks and partnered with the city to redevelop Lansdowne, is looking to attract thousands of visitors to the huge shopping and entertainment complex every day. Some will take transit, but as Lansdowne isn’t on a major route, it’s likely many will drive.

So the real question is, how will these people come and go from this traditional neighbourhood?

The underground garage will have about 1,300 underground parking spaces, with 280 reserved for the homeowners living in the two condo towers and town houses on the Lansdowne site, and another 40 short-term street-level spots.

The question is how these folks will get in and out without creating huge backlogs on either Bank Street or Queen Elizabeth Drive, where the two public parking access points are located.

As Mayor Jim Watson said in an interview, "I go to the Glebe today on a Saturday, and it’s chock-a-block full."

Exactly.

If the area is already congested, how will it absorb all the thousands of new shoppers?

That’s what local residents want to know. If a recent public meeting on the Lansdowne transportation plan is anything to go by, the community is so incensed by what it sees as the lack of urgency in coming up with a plan for the "day-to-day," that one man put forth the extreme (although legal) suggestion that residents start parking by the curb instead of their driveways to keep visitors from clogging up side streets.

After feedback from 1,000 residents, the Glebe Community Association came up with 21 "priority" recommendations to ease congestion, including increasing the frequency of east-west bus routes to alleviate the transit traffic on Bank Street to improving residential parking enforcement in the Glebe.

This month, the city rejected these proposals, along with 11 others. Another half-dozen suggestions are under consideration. Only two were accepted: better signage to direct drivers to use the Queen Elizabeth Driveway entrance, and new rules to forbid stopping on certain streets right around Lansdowne.

The fact is, it’s not a surprise that the city is resisting taking a few measures ahead of time.

Sure, there are some steps that should be taken this instance. It seems foolish for the city not to prioritize building the Clegg Street/Fifth Avenue bridge that would connect Old Ottawa East across the canal to the Lansdowne site. The bridge delay - it’s currently on the books for 2020 - is particularly head-scratching when you consider the many millions taxpayers are shelling out for the stadium, the Horticulture Building reno and the urban park. Why wouldn’t the city want to create as many access points to these public sites as possible?

But before the city re-builds intersections or installs speed bumps, it’s probably prudent to wait to see how the traffic issue unfolds. It’s not always obvious ahead of time where the bottlenecks will occur.

On the other hand, the city must be prepared to adjust quickly to problems as they arise.

And "quickly" is the key word here.

OSEG’s chief executive Bernie Ashe said all Lansdowne partners have "a huge commitment to monitoring. And we’re going to be completely open about the kinds of complaints we get."

This might sound like so much good public-relations talk from some executives, but coming from Ashe, it’s likely sincere for one simple reason: OSEG needs the traffic flow to work. In this cause, the company and the community are united.

Because if Lansdowne earns an early reputation for being a pain to get to, if Bank Street is thought to be a permanently congested nightmare, it’ll be a disaster for OSEG and for Glebe shop owners alike.

And no matter what other opinions you hold about Lansdowne, there’s no one in this city who wants that.

[email protected]

twitter.com/jchianello
© Copyright (c) The Ottawa Citizen

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/ottawa...traffic+remains+worry/9302778/story.html
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3409  
Old Posted Dec 19, 2013, 4:36 PM
Radster Radster is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Chelsea
Posts: 997
Quote:
Originally Posted by alecz_dad View Post
Good thing I don't live on Holmwood!

Well, with street parking limited to 1 hr, expect a parking ticket. Another one from the cops for open liquor. And a noise bylaw ticket for blowing your horn.

Enjoy.
Sorry, I meant ADELAIDE street.

And no ticket for me, I will park on your neighbour's lawn for $10 (see, many of your fellow Glebites love making a few extra $ on game days instead of bitching about all the traffic).

Open liquor? Brown paper bag and presto!

Noise bylaw ticket? Good luck with that one!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3410  
Old Posted Dec 20, 2013, 5:02 AM
lrt's friend lrt's friend is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 12,813
Quote:
Originally Posted by rocketphish View Post
Lansdowne traffic remains a worry

It’s not managing the special events - it’s the day-to-day that’s worrisome

By Joanne Chianello, OTTAWA CITIZEN December 18, 2013 9:00 PM


Depending on your viewpoint, there’s lots to love or loathe about the massive Lansdowne Park redevelopment.

If you’re a football fan, you’re likely delighted by the seemingly daily RedBlacks announcements as they ramp up toward their first game in early summer. The skeptical wonder if the sport will be successful in Ottawa the third time around.

If you’re something of a shopaholic, maybe you can’t wait for the 400,000 square feet of retail space expected to be opened by this time next year (with about half the shops and restaurants opening their doors six months from now, and the rest over the second half of 2014). But if you were taken with the early talk about how a reimagined Lansdowne was to become a "unique urban village," you’ll be sorely disappointed by the numerous chains that have committed to setting up shop there, including the LCBO, Rexall, a national bank, and possibly - according to a report by the Citizen’s David Reevely - a Cineplex theatre complex (although probably a fancy one that serves grown-up drinks).

But there’s one element in the Lansdowne revamp formula that everyone can agree on: traffic. Or, more precisely, that there’s a concrete plan to avoid (or at least alleviate) the inevitable gridlock that will ensue from the thousands of expected new visitors to the site.

So far, it’s really not clear what that plan is.

Sure, there’s a concept of how to handle the crowds on game day, although there still are many details to be worked out.

For example, here’s a new problem: although only club seat and suite clients will be allowed to park in the garage on game day, about 600 spots will be open to the public. After all, the retailers spending top dollar to locate at Lansdowne don’t all want to rely only on game-goers for their business.

Figuring out how to stop those spaces from being used by football attendees is just one more thing on the to-do list before the Redblacks have their home opener next June or July.

But the truth is, it’s not the special events that have everyone worried. Yes, it’ll be a headache to figure out how to get 24,000 people to and from a sold-out Frank Clair Stadium, but it’ll get figured out. Eventually.

The real challenge is how Bank Street and the surrounding Glebe area can absorb 5,000 or 10,000 people a day visiting Lansdowne.

"There’s a real misperception," said Coun. David Chernushenko, who’s work in Capital ward has been largely taken up with issues relating to the Lansdowne development.

"People generally don’t have a big issue with special events, unless they become so numerous that they’re every second day," he said, pointing out that a CFL team has fewer than a dozen home games a season. "People realize that you go into special events mode."

But what about the rest of the time?

Ottawa Sports and Entertainment Group, which owns the Redblacks and partnered with the city to redevelop Lansdowne, is looking to attract thousands of visitors to the huge shopping and entertainment complex every day. Some will take transit, but as Lansdowne isn’t on a major route, it’s likely many will drive.

So the real question is, how will these people come and go from this traditional neighbourhood?

The underground garage will have about 1,300 underground parking spaces, with 280 reserved for the homeowners living in the two condo towers and town houses on the Lansdowne site, and another 40 short-term street-level spots.

The question is how these folks will get in and out without creating huge backlogs on either Bank Street or Queen Elizabeth Drive, where the two public parking access points are located.

As Mayor Jim Watson said in an interview, "I go to the Glebe today on a Saturday, and it’s chock-a-block full."

Exactly.

If the area is already congested, how will it absorb all the thousands of new shoppers?

That’s what local residents want to know. If a recent public meeting on the Lansdowne transportation plan is anything to go by, the community is so incensed by what it sees as the lack of urgency in coming up with a plan for the "day-to-day," that one man put forth the extreme (although legal) suggestion that residents start parking by the curb instead of their driveways to keep visitors from clogging up side streets.

After feedback from 1,000 residents, the Glebe Community Association came up with 21 "priority" recommendations to ease congestion, including increasing the frequency of east-west bus routes to alleviate the transit traffic on Bank Street to improving residential parking enforcement in the Glebe.

This month, the city rejected these proposals, along with 11 others. Another half-dozen suggestions are under consideration. Only two were accepted: better signage to direct drivers to use the Queen Elizabeth Driveway entrance, and new rules to forbid stopping on certain streets right around Lansdowne.

The fact is, it’s not a surprise that the city is resisting taking a few measures ahead of time.

Sure, there are some steps that should be taken this instance. It seems foolish for the city not to prioritize building the Clegg Street/Fifth Avenue bridge that would connect Old Ottawa East across the canal to the Lansdowne site. The bridge delay - it’s currently on the books for 2020 - is particularly head-scratching when you consider the many millions taxpayers are shelling out for the stadium, the Horticulture Building reno and the urban park. Why wouldn’t the city want to create as many access points to these public sites as possible?

But before the city re-builds intersections or installs speed bumps, it’s probably prudent to wait to see how the traffic issue unfolds. It’s not always obvious ahead of time where the bottlenecks will occur.

On the other hand, the city must be prepared to adjust quickly to problems as they arise.

And "quickly" is the key word here.

OSEG’s chief executive Bernie Ashe said all Lansdowne partners have "a huge commitment to monitoring. And we’re going to be completely open about the kinds of complaints we get."

This might sound like so much good public-relations talk from some executives, but coming from Ashe, it’s likely sincere for one simple reason: OSEG needs the traffic flow to work. In this cause, the company and the community are united.

Because if Lansdowne earns an early reputation for being a pain to get to, if Bank Street is thought to be a permanently congested nightmare, it’ll be a disaster for OSEG and for Glebe shop owners alike.

And no matter what other opinions you hold about Lansdowne, there’s no one in this city who wants that.

[email protected]

twitter.com/jchianello
© Copyright (c) The Ottawa Citizen

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/ottawa...traffic+remains+worry/9302778/story.html
What needs to happen is the following:

Street parking on Bank Street needs to be eliminated.

The curb lanes along Bank Street should be converted into bus lanes.

Route 1 needs express runs to South Keys using the Transitway south of Billings Bridge.

Route 6 needs to be converted into useful bus route as it was years ago, ie all day service with a decent frequency. Service on Carling as far west as Lincoln Fields should be split between Route 85 and Route 6. Route 6 might even be re-routed to Fifth Avenue from Bronson and Bank to run east-west buses closer to Lansdowne Park.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3411  
Old Posted Dec 20, 2013, 6:13 AM
gjhall's Avatar
gjhall gjhall is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 1,297
Quote:
Originally Posted by lrt's friend View Post
What needs to happen is the following:

Street parking on Bank Street needs to be eliminated.

The curb lanes along Bank Street should be converted into bus lanes.
I don't think the sidewalks are wide enough for this to be tolerable or desirable for pedestrians, aka shoppers.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3412  
Old Posted Dec 20, 2013, 10:30 AM
Aylmer's Avatar
Aylmer Aylmer is offline
Still optimistic
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Montreal (C-D-N) / Ottawa (Aylmer)
Posts: 5,407
I don't believe that any amount of optimisation of the existing road infrastructure in the Glebe will be able to handle Lansdowne traffic, especially considering the very limited parking options. So we'll have to turn to public transportation for a solution.

In the immediate future, there needs to be a bus from Carling Station to the Rideau Centre along the Queen Elizabeth Parkway. The NCC'll probably flip, but it's the only road option quick enough to entice drivers out of their cars, if only for a short while.

Further out, I still think that surface LRT on the space space currently occupied by the Queen Elizabeth and Carling's median would be inexpensive (only really need to insert tracks in the roadbed, electrify and build some basic platforms) and could handle Lansdowne's traffic.

Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3413  
Old Posted Dec 20, 2013, 12:07 PM
DarkArconio DarkArconio is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 182
I agree 100%. This sort of carling-QEP-rideau-Montreal surface dedicated lane line seems like the ideal affordable secondary cross town line bringing rapid transit to the rest of the high density parts of the city. I would strongly push for this being our "phase 3". In 2050 I suppose when the city can afford transit again after phase two?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3414  
Old Posted Dec 20, 2013, 6:57 PM
J.OT13's Avatar
J.OT13 J.OT13 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 29,131
I agree on a bus line between Carling and Rideau via Queen Elizabeth Drive (QED) Maybe even make QED HOV only during big events, but I don't agree with a QEP Tram for two main reasons;

1. Capacity; I don't see Trams running along QED as having a whole lot more capacity than double decker or articulated buses;
2. Area served; With 5 kilometers of track, you only really serve three (maybe four if you have one at Booth) stations. Anything else in between would get little to no ridership.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3415  
Old Posted Dec 20, 2013, 9:06 PM
Aylmer's Avatar
Aylmer Aylmer is offline
Still optimistic
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Montreal (C-D-N) / Ottawa (Aylmer)
Posts: 5,407
In regards to capacity, surface LRT uses exactly the same type of vehicle as will be used in the confederation line, so up anywhere between 200 people and 600 people. As for who would fill those seats, the route, if extended along Carling (solving the Carling-Downtown double-transfer situation), would serve two universities, four malls and Lansdowne, two major hospitals, at least one major governmental employment centre and City Hall, a major sports venue, the National Arts Centre, the Conference Centre, Bank street (Glebe and Sunnyside), Main street, Preston, Elgin, as well as going along a UNESCO heritage site and serving the Museum of Nature.

But that isn't even really the point of the exercise: where Lansdowne is concerned, we need something that will draw non-transit users out of their cars and that will convince sports-goers to take transit as opposed to clogging the streets of the Glebe, looking for parking which doesn't exist.

To that end, inexpensive surface LRT would be a very good solution: we know that your average rail system attracts more choice riders and occasional riders (like tourists) than your average bus system. If they find it attractive, it would be conceivable to ask that they leave their cars at home or somewhere else to hop on a train to Lansdowne.

So I see it as actually being an important everyday transit connection to the older Ottawa neighbourhoods as well as newer ones along Carling, but I also see it as a necessary investment if we want Lansdowne to succeed: people need to get there somehow, and if automobile infrastructure can't handle it, we need to provide an attractive alternative.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3416  
Old Posted Dec 20, 2013, 9:21 PM
J.OT13's Avatar
J.OT13 J.OT13 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 29,131
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aylmer View Post
In regards to capacity, surface LRT uses exactly the same type of vehicle as will be used in the confederation line, so up anywhere between 200 people and 600 people. As for who would fill those seats, the route, if extended along Carling (solving the Carling-Downtown double-transfer situation), would serve two universities, four malls and Lansdowne, two major hospitals, at least one major governmental employment centre and City Hall, a major sports venue, the National Arts Centre, the Conference Centre, Bank street (Glebe and Sunnyside), Main street, Preston, Elgin, as well as going along a UNESCO heritage site and serving the Museum of Nature.

But that isn't even really the point of the exercise: where Lansdowne is concerned, we need something that will draw non-transit users out of their cars and that will convince sports-goers to take transit as opposed to clogging the streets of the Glebe, looking for parking which doesn't exist.

To that end, inexpensive surface LRT would be a very good solution: we know that your average rail system attracts more choice riders and occasional riders (like tourists) than your average bus system. If they find it attractive, it would be conceivable to ask that they leave their cars at home or somewhere else to hop on a train to Lansdowne.

So I see it as actually being an important everyday transit connection to the older Ottawa neighbourhoods as well as newer ones along Carling, but I also see it as a necessary investment if we want Lansdowne to succeed: people need to get there somehow, and if automobile infrastructure can't handle it, we need to provide an attractive alternative.
I'm not criticising Carling (although I don't see it as a priority) but QED. QED itself only serves as a link to Lansdowne between Carling Station and the ceremonial core. As a commuter route, a lot of people would still have to transfer from the QED line to Confederation (line) to get to Parliament or Lyon stations. As for the capacity, the length surface vehicles are limited; we can't have 100+ meter trains running on city streets.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3417  
Old Posted Dec 21, 2013, 2:13 AM
lrt's friend lrt's friend is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 12,813
It is all well and good to discuss LRT plans for the Glebe that will be implemented after 2048 but our problem will exist starting in mid 2014. We need an immediate solution.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3418  
Old Posted Dec 21, 2013, 2:19 AM
Aylmer's Avatar
Aylmer Aylmer is offline
Still optimistic
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Montreal (C-D-N) / Ottawa (Aylmer)
Posts: 5,407
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.OT13 View Post
I'm not criticising Carling (although I don't see it as a priority) but QED. QED itself only serves as a link to Lansdowne between Carling Station and the ceremonial core. As a commuter route, a lot of people would still have to transfer from the QED line to Confederation (line) to get to Parliament or Lyon stations. As for the capacity, the length surface vehicles are limited; we can't have 100+ meter trains running on city streets.
If I understand correctly, you're criticizing that the QED doesn't connect with the CBD.

You do have a point that Lyon wouldn't be within a walking distance of a terminus at Confederation Park, but areas west of Bank street would be, which is still a significant chunk of the core.
I don't see this as a deal-breaker, especially considering how much more service a QED line would bring to older urban neighbourhoods, major attractions and the Carling corridor and the solution it represents for Lansdowne.

I really think that the QED is a rather unique opportunity: I don't know of any other corridors which are so exclusive (there's only one intersection: Pretoria) and central (it ends, as you mentioned, in the heart of the ceremonial core, and serves a half-dozen urban neighbourhoods on the way) which could be so easily and affordably built. Moreover, it's a solution to the soon-to-be-rather-pressing parking problems in the Glebe and a good excuse to put transit on Carling. I think it's worth a serious look at least.


Oh, and I checked about the trains and you're right. So 600 people per vehicle wouldn't be a possibility, but 300-400 person trains like in Bordeaux is still nothing to sneeze at and is still several times the capacity of an articulated bus.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3419  
Old Posted Dec 21, 2013, 6:16 AM
alecz_dad alecz_dad is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: The Glebe, Ottawa
Posts: 338
Radster, I think you'll be disappointed. Not really any lawns to park cars on, on Adelaide Street. And many residents have only one spot, or none.
(A lovely sketch by long-time Glebe artist, Bhat Boy, of the no-longer-visible view of the Aberdeen Pavilion, as seen looking down Adelaide Street.)


There was also talk, at the recent public meeting about the traffic monitoring plan for Lansdowne, of residents practising vehicular civil disobedience on weekends and game days by parking their own vehicles on their streets (if they're not already parked there, quite a few property-owners and tenants already permit-parking on their streets) to make it clear to Lansdowne-comers that our neighbourhood will not become a permanent overflow parking sacrifice zone, to make up for OSMUG's under-supply of onsite parking for their overbuilt scheme.


I should expect that Ottawa Police and City Bylaw will be out in force on event days to keep rowdies like you in check.

Looking forward to having your car towed for blocking my laneway.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Radster View Post
Sorry, I meant ADELAIDE street.

And no ticket for me, I will park on your neighbour's lawn for $10 (see, many of your fellow Glebites love making a few extra $ on game days instead of bitching about all the traffic).

Open liquor? Brown paper bag and presto!

Noise bylaw ticket? Good luck with that one!

Last edited by alecz_dad; Dec 21, 2013 at 6:36 AM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3420  
Old Posted Dec 21, 2013, 4:04 PM
On Edge On Edge is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 159
Best would have been for the city to require the developers to build a monorail from Dow's Lake along the QEP to stop at Lansdowne, Pretoria, Corkstown/Ottawa U, and Confed. Square/NAC. It would not disrupt the other surface traffic anywhere along the route, and would connect the O-Train and Confed. lines nicely along a scenic route.
Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Ontario > Ottawa-Gatineau > Downtown & Urban Ottawa
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 4:13 PM.

     

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.