South Fraser Perimeter Road/Highway 17 Extension | Completed

[go_leafs_go02]

Originally Posted by theKB

it's a pleasure each and every time one gets to drive in Europe.

I don't understand why they don't just periodically take measurements of highway speeds to see what the average flow rate is and adjust accordingly. Many highways could easily get a bump to 110 (99 south of the tunnel and hwy 1 east of the PM).

The province is looking at rural speed limits and making some changes. Hopefully that comes around to looking at ones in urban areas too.

[dharper]

I drove the SFPR last night. What the heck is the DIP between the railroad overpass and Patullo Bridge there for?

[jlenko]

The section from Bridgeview west to Grace Road opened yesterday at some point between 2:30 pm when I went to work, and 7:00 pm when I drove out and noticed it was fully open. Drove it Westbound all the way to Nordel then onto River Road (was still closed)... but I sure noticed this...

Originally Posted by makr3trkr

http://wcs.pbaeng.com/projects/sfpr

I wonder if they're going to straighten out that centre divider, or leave it looking like a heck of a cop parking spot... which is what it seemed like last night when we drove it

[makr3trkr]

Originally Posted by jlenko

The section from Bridgeview west to Grace Road opened yesterday at some point between 2:30 pm when I went to work, and 7:00 pm when I drove out and noticed it was fully open. Drove it Westbound all the way to Nordel then onto River Road (was still closed)... but I sure noticed this...



I wonder if they're going to straighten out that centre divider, or leave it looking like a heck of a cop parking spot... which is what it seemed like last night when we drove it

I think the electronic signage is visible in the bottom left of that picture, so you can see your speed lit up as they write you a ticket

[Zassk]

Originally Posted by dharper

I drove the SFPR last night. What the heck is the DIP between the railroad overpass and Patullo Bridge there for?

It was mentioned earlier in the thread that the road dips to give more clearance under the railway overpass. It is below the water table there and needed special drainage. The reason why the dip seems to be offset from the railway bridge, I think, is because the road has to come up quickly back to grade for the level crossing to the west.

Speaking of that level crossing, I looked more closely at the Google Maps images of that railway, and I can't see any way that they could have grade-separated that track. That track crosses underneath the railway bridge approach just a short distance away, so it couldn't travel over or under the SFPR.

[officedweller]

Maybe the dip is the real reason for the 50 km/h limit (rather than the railway crossing)?
Although other roads have signs that say "dip".

[makr3trkr]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Maybe the dip is the real reason for the 50 km/h limit (rather than the railway crossing)?
Although other roads have signs that say "dip".

The reason is to scare people into actually slowing down to 60 or 70 (either of which would be safe and eminently more reasonable).

It's an "aspirational" speed limit.

[officedweller]

Grand opening on Saturday...

http://www.delta-optimist.com/south-fraser-perimeter-road-grand-opening-saturday-1.767317

and another article on industrial lands:

http://www.delta-optimist.com/looking-for-industrial-land-1.766187

[CoryHolmes]

After the big kerfluffle last week with the 104 Ave overpass, today the SFPR was glorious to drive on.

Minus the snow, natch, but still glorious. Up until now, it had been stop-and-go traffic from the Surrey Docks all the way to 103 and Scott Road.

Today? I only had to stop at the lights on 103 Ave. My evening commute home dropped from an hour to 30 mins (Tilbury to Central City).

[makr3trkr]

Originally Posted by CoryHolmes

Today, there was an option: turn at 103 or continue on to the Tannery Road / 104 Ave overpass. No signage one way or the other.

However, as it turns out, the overpass was NOT OPEN to Tannery or 104, nor could you go further down to Old Yale / 128. As well, the overpass did NOT connect through to the Surrey Docks.

Instead, it was just a big loop that turned everyone around and sent them back onto Hwy 17... WB.

I have heard from three or four different people who got stuck in that loop to turn around.

They assumed they could exit at 104th, which wasn't true.. Hundreds of cars were lined up for 30 minutes, so obviously it wasn't clear enough.

This morning at the Subury intersection around 8:30-9:00 there were similarly hundreds of vehicles backed up to Nordel Hill (1.5km) .. I heard someone mention the lights were cycling every 5-10 seconds.

[makr3trkr]

SFPR is showing up in Gmaps, but the routing isn't quite working yet

[Flash604]

Originally Posted by makr3trkr

SFPR is showing up in Gmaps, but the routing isn't quite working yet

I opened it last night, and then this morning I opened the portion along Burns Bog. I did this as freeway edits take a Google employee to approve so I arranged for one to do it as his last thing of today's workday. Directions, however, are another product and will take some time to update. I'm trying to see if I can get it done within a week, but it will likely be tough during Christmas week.

[makr3trkr]

[email protected]

"Please be advised that the following are now complete, as part of the South Fraser Perimeter Road Project:

* Deltaport Way between west of 57B Street and Highway 17 - Phase 4
* Road work and construction resulting in lane shifts

* Highway 99 between 72 Street and 64 Street
* Road work and construction resulting north and southbound lane closures

* North and Southbound Nordel Way at Weigh Scales Access
* Road work and construction resulting north and southbound lane closures

* Vicinity of Timberland Road and Tannery Road
* Road work and utility installations resulting in single-lane alternating traffic

* Old Yale Road at Bridge Road
* Road work, construction, and paving resulting in single-lane alternating traffic

* Grace Road at SFPR
* Utility works and construction resulting in the closure of the intersection
* 115 Avenue/King Road between 132A Street and 139A Street
* Utility installations, road works, and wall construction resulting in single-lane alternating traffic

* 129 Street between 116 Avenue and 116A Avenue
* Construction and utility installations resulting in single-lane alternating traffic
* 130 Street North of 116A Avenue
* Utility installations and road works resulting in single-lane alternating traffic

* Highway 17 between 56 Street and Deltaport Way
* Construction and road works resulting in north and southbound lane closures
* 57B Street at Deltaport Way
* Road work and construction resulting in a full closure and detour

* Highway 91 Connector at River Road
* Paving and utility installations resulting in single-lane alternating traffic

* Knudson Road at River Road
* Wall construction resulting in a lane shift
* Timberland Road west of Tannery Road
* Utility installations resulting in a lane shift

* Bridgeview Drive between 115 Avenue and 116A Avenue
* Road works and construction resulting in single-lane alternating traffic

* Industrial Road/116 Avenue between 112 Avenue and 129 Street
* Road work and construction resulting in single-lane alternating traffic"

[makr3trkr]

Will the ribbon cutting interrupt traffic?

Also, SFPRconstruction.ca is down right now and the webcam site is down entirely..

[red-paladin]

Originally Posted by Flash604

I opened it last night, and then this morning I opened the portion along Burns Bog. I did this as freeway edits take a Google employee to approve so I arranged for one to do it as his last thing of today's workday. Directions, however, are another product and will take some time to update. I'm trying to see if I can get it done within a week, but it will likely be tough during Christmas week.

Thank you for continuing to be a part of the forum and for bringing us updates.

[go_leafs_go02]

Was able to drive on it tonight, both directions. Great road, almost completely devoid of traffic. Was at night, but still, he part through Tannery felt very impressive and big.

The 50 km/h zone felt completely overkill. I can understand why 80 km/h is a bit excessive through there, but 50 km/h is the same as any residential street typically in the Lower Mainland. Easily felt safe to go through there at 70 km/h in a car.

[Thousands Wouldn't]

I am wondering if the reason the webcam link for the Gateway Project is down because they are repositioning, adding or deleting cameras.

Anyone know what's going on?

[Spork]

Attempted to drive it eastbound coming up from Point Roberts at 11am this morning, but it was still blocked off. Westbound was running. Maybe just blocked for the opening?

[adrianroam95]

Originally Posted by go_leafs_go02

Was able to drive on it tonight, both directions. Great road, almost completely devoid of traffic. Was at night, but still, he part through Tannery felt very impressive and big.

The 50 km/h zone felt completely overkill. I can understand why 80 km/h is a bit excessive through there, but 50 km/h is the same as any residential street typically in the Lower Mainland. Easily felt safe to go through there at 70 km/h in a car.

I completely agree with you on the 50 km/h speed limit. Why they went so far as to setup dual-electronic signs both eastbound and westbound indicating your speed and telling you to slow down is beyond me. It seems a little ridiculous to me, slowing down all the way to 50 for that measly dip underneath the railroad overpass.

[makr3trkr]

Originally Posted by adrianroam95

I completely agree with you on the 50 km/h speed limit. Why they went so far as to setup dual-electronic signs both eastbound and westbound indicating your speed and telling you to slow down is beyond me. It seems a little ridiculous to me, slowing down all the way to 50 for that measly dip underneath the railroad overpass.

They are probably concerned about a big rig flying through there at 120km/hour and hitting the rail bridge or the Pattullo.

They should have a CARS 70 / TRUCKS 60 sign.