PHILADELPHIA | Highrise Development Thread IX

[Aaamazarite]

http://pennsporter.blogspot.com/2013/12/mount-sinai-plan-reveals-mix-of-town.html

[EastSideHBG]

Synagogue, schools join against Blatstein's proposed casino

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City ups aggressive tactics in fighting blight with CLIP bill

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[relnahe]

Originally Posted by Aaamazarite

http://pennsporter.blogspot.com/2013/12/mount-sinai-plan-reveals-mix-of-town.html

How are those townhomes "cookie cutter"? I guess they would prefer the utter suburban garbage that scarred the neighborhood that is directly north of this. That neighborhood should be learning from Northern Liberties, not Graduate Hospital on how to reconstruct a neighborhood.

[summersm343]

Best Western closes to make way for Rodin Square. Demo should be happening soon:

http://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-philly/logan-square/best-western-closes-whole-foods-coming-soonish

[mdsayh1]

Rodin is a hugely exciting project. Between this and the Grainery this area is completely altering its profile.

[PHI215skyline]

I was a little discouraged to hear this past week from a friend with some loose connections to someone at Comcast, that indeed, two new towers are coming...but the bad news was that he said NEITHER of them were supposed to exceed the height of the current Comcast tower.

I was bummed to say least. Technologically advanced and significant yes, super tallish.....doesn't seem likely.

[summersm343]

Originally Posted by PHI215skyline

I was a little discouraged to hear this past week from a friend with some loose connections to someone at Comcast, that indeed, two new towers are coming...but the bad news was that he said NEITHER of them were supposed to exceed the height of the current Comcast tower.

I was bummed to say least. Technologically advanced and significant yes, super tallish.....doesn't seem likely.

I personally know someone at Liberty Property Trust who said the building would be big.

Also, it was heard from an insider that Norman Foster was designing a building 200-300 feet taller than Comcast.

I guess we'll see.

I must say, usually I don't care for height, but this would be a huge disappointment if one tower did not end up being a Supertall. This may be Philly's last chance for a LONG time to get a Supertall.

[summersm343]

Originally Posted by mdsayh1

Rodin is a hugely exciting project. Between this and the Grainery this area is completely altering its profile.

And Museum Towers II! A lot of projects going on in that neighborhood.

[PHI215skyline]

Originally Posted by summersm343

I personally know someone at Liberty Property Trust who said the building would be big.

Also, it was heard from an insider that Norman Foster was designing a building 200-300 feet taller than Comcast.

I guess we'll see.

I must say, usually I don't care for height, but this would be a huge disappointment if one tower did not end up being a Supertall. This may be Philly's last chance for a LONG time to get a Supertall.

I agree. At this point, no one else in town has the capital, significance, national stature, or quite frankly, the balls to build something supertall except for Comcast. I'm hoping it was bad info and they can please all of us development and skyscraper junkies with something that will really put us on the map.

[McBane]

Originally Posted by relnahe

How are those townhomes "cookie cutter"? I guess they would prefer the utter suburban garbage that scarred the neighborhood that is directly north of this. That neighborhood should be learning from Northern Liberties, not Graduate Hospital on how to reconstruct a neighborhood.

It's an interesting quote from the article. While I do agree that this project looks "cookie cutter", it doesn't seem to resemble anything like what's going up in NoLibs, which I would argue is where you'll find the most concentrated collection of modern, avant garde architecture. The Drivet exterior reminds me of SouthStar and Homes2Suites. Still, it's definitely a big plus over what's there now.

Great news about a new potential 1706. I personally think the design is only so-so. But it's of little consequence when the building is comprised entirely of millionaires who contribute $$$ to the city's coffers. That Philadelphia can support another ultra high end tower like that is encouraging.

Re Comcast, I agree w/ Summer. I'm much more concerned about design, jobs, and the street. On one hand, two towers = two empty/parking lots off the grid. On the other hand, a supertall is a rare feat that only comes around every so often. In the past few years, how many 1000+ towers have been constructed in the US?

[theSisko]

Originally Posted by summersm343

I personally know someone at Liberty Property Trust who said the building would be big.

Also, it was heard from an insider that Norman Foster was designing a building 200-300 feet taller than Comcast.

I guess we'll see.

I must say, usually I don't care for height, but this would be a huge disappointment if one tower did not end up being a Supertall. This may be Philly's last chance for a LONG time to get a Supertall.

Summersm, based on what you have heard thru your contacts, when is the best time YOU anticipate Comcast/Liberty coming out with this announcement? I remember you once saying you thought we would hear something about the time construction would begin on the FMC Tower.

[summersm343]

Originally Posted by theSisko

Summersm, based on what you have heard thru your contacts, when is the best time YOU anticipate Comcast/Liberty coming out with this announcement? I remember you once saying you thought we would hear something about the time construction would begin on the FMC Tower.

Probably won't hear anything until next year. Maybe Spring or Summer-ish? I can keep you updated if I hear anything concrete.

[theSisko]

Originally Posted by summersm343

Probably won't hear anything until next year. Maybe Spring or Summer-ish? I can keep you updated if I hear anything concrete.

I appreciate that very much young fella!

[Pennsgrant]

Prep for Hill College House looks to have begun. Tree removal , equipment on site, fencing is up.

Pillars already rising over at Lancaster Square.

3601 Market seems to be in full go mode.

38th Chestnut demolition has picked up quite a bit.

[Flyers2001]

In the past few years, how many 1000+ towers have been constructed in the US?

Since I am bored... One57 and One WTC are the 2 that have reached the height since Trump and BOA Tower did it in 2009.

Though it has become more and more common internationally, in the US there are only 5 cities that have supertalls. NYC, CHI and Houston have multiple of course. LA will join those 2 in the coming years. Atlanta and Houston having a supertall and not Philly is kind of irking me, tbh. Even SanFran and Miami have supertalls in the pipeline.

Philly has a very notable skyline, but a supertall would make it even more world renowned.

Comcast may be the only chance in the next 5 years or so, but Philly is once again going verticle and population trends will continue to support that. With the theme of many supertalls going to the residential side, there is a little hope down the road. Of course Nimby's would be a huge issue.


What could have been...

[EastSideHBG]

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I am glad that didn't happen actually, as that looks a bit out of place to me.


Hotel proposed near a casino site

LAST UPDATED: Monday, December 16, 2013, 4:54 PM

PHL Local Gaming L.L.C., which wants to build Casino Revolution at Front Street and Packer Avenue in South Philadelphia, said a New York hotel developer, Fortuna Realty Group, had signed a letter of intent build a 250-room, "four-star" hotel in a development proposed for land adjacent to where the casino would go, if PHL Local receives the license next year.

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Why Philly's Land Bank creates a fantastic opportunity for the City

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Too-tall townhomes to be jacked up to lop off 22 inches

KELLIE PATRICK GATES , PLANPHILLY
LAST UPDATED: Monday, December 16, 2013, 11:53 AM

Neighbors complained, L&I measured. The in-the-works Constitution Court townhouses at 3rd and Reed in South Philadelphia are about 22 inches taller than the variance granted to developer and former Philadelphia jeweler-to-the-stars Barry Sable.

“We shut them down,” said L&I spokeswoman Rebecca Swanson.

To meet L&I's demand that the Pennsport structure shrink to the 43-feet, one-and-a-half inches the variance says is the max and get building again, Sable intends to lift the house with a technique used to raise houses at the Shore above storm surge, Swanson said. But instead of making the structure taller, “they will lift it up, chop off 22 inches, and put it back down on the foundation,” she said.

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[shadowbat2]

Originally Posted by EastSideHBG

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I am glad that didn't happen actually, as that looks a bit out of place to me.

That's because it is

Acc was to go up between Comcast and Verizon towers blocking IBX

That rendering puts it at 19th and Chestnut aprox....

[Flyers2001]

Originally Posted by shadowbat2

That's because it is

Acc was to go up between Comcast and Verizon towers blocking IBX

That rendering puts it at 19th and Chestnut aprox....

Yes, I was not going for the exact building/location but for the thought of a game changing skyscraper in Philly. ACC would have been among the World's tallest and very well designed at least from the initial renderings imo.

[bucks native]

300 block of S. Broad, across from Kimmel Center, 47 floors, 565 ft.

details here with render: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20131217_47-story_hotel_condo_building_set_for_South_Broad.html

[Aaamazarite]

http://www.philly.com/philly/classifieds..._condo_building_set_for_South_Broad.html