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Old Posted Dec 13, 2013, 7:14 AM
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Renfroe said the architecture will have a “French flair” with a traditional masonry façade. (from the first article)
So much for that. I was excited about the classic French/European architecture. Oh well. Overall it's alright. Doesn't make me say, "Wow!" but the ground floor looks nice. I could picture this kind of building at the future Bayview Yards redevelopment. I'm not sure if it fits Main Street.
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Old Posted Dec 13, 2013, 1:29 PM
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That area needs coffee shops, retail, and restaurants. I hope these will be found in this development.
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Old Posted Dec 13, 2013, 6:46 PM
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What is it the kids say these days?... "meh"
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Nice to see even small step backs at the 5th and 6th floors. Folk like Ted Fobert often try to tell us that the economics of kind of thing are "impossible." Try harder?

Also nice to see a low rise bit breaking up the mass of the two mid-rise blocks, that would have been very welcome at that "other Sisters" site on Richmond.

Pretty bland, though, I have to say. Main St is also kind of an odd spot to go for echoes of an industrial/warehouse-style of architecture, given that that is not at all in the vernacular/history of that part of town.
Yeah, the massing and height fits the site, but the facade has certainly lost something between the pencil drawing and the render. Somehow it went from Old Montreal to Montreal Rd.
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Old Posted Dec 14, 2013, 3:04 AM
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Somehow it went from Old Montreal to Montreal Rd.
Great line.
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Old Posted Dec 14, 2013, 3:48 AM
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Nice to see even small step backs at the 5th and 6th floors. Folk like Ted Fobert often try to tell us that the economics of kind of thing are "impossible." Try harder?

Also nice to see a low rise bit breaking up the mass of the two mid-rise blocks, that would have been very welcome at that "other Sisters" site on Richmond.

Pretty bland, though, I have to say. Main St is also kind of an odd spot to go for echoes of an industrial/warehouse-style of architecture, given that that is not at all in the vernacular/history of that part of town.
Ottawa East had more of an industrial history than you think. There was the Morrison-Lamonthe Bakery and neighbouring Mutual Dairy (I remember the ice cream counter, yum) on Echo Drive, Walker's Bakery on Evelyn Street and there was a silica brick factory near the Pretoria Bridge along the canal. Someone related to our family by marriage operated a sand boat between Uplands and the factory 100 years ago. Then you had the neighbouring railway roundhouse and coal oil factory on the eastern edge of Ottawa East. With the exception of the brick factory that disappeared probably in the 20s, the rest is easily in living memory.
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Old Posted Dec 14, 2013, 3:55 AM
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Ottawa has enough redish brown facades to last for the next 50 years.

This location just begs for something clad in that Toronto terracotta style that would be in keeping with the religious buildings on this campus.

I'm thinking something like this that was once a religious building:

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Old Posted Dec 14, 2013, 5:07 AM
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Wow! The pencil sketches were amazing! What a shame! This belongs on Innes Road with the big box stores! What on earth happened here?
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Old Posted Dec 14, 2013, 2:57 PM
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Ottawa has enough redish brown facades to last for the next 50 years.

This location just begs for something clad in that Toronto terracotta style that would be in keeping with the religious buildings on this campus.

I'm thinking something like this that was once a religious building:

That is one good looking building, but this is a historical structure; I doubt think they use ultra ornate (or any) terra-cotta now a days.
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Ottawa East had more of an industrial history than you think. There was the Morrison-Lamonthe Bakery and neighbouring Mutual Dairy (I remember the ice cream counter, yum) on Echo Drive, Walker's Bakery on Evelyn Street and there was a silica brick factory near the Pretoria Bridge along the canal. Someone related to our family by marriage operated a sand boat between Uplands and the factory 100 years ago. Then you had the neighbouring railway roundhouse and coal oil factory on the eastern edge of Ottawa East. With the exception of the brick factory that disappeared probably in the 20s, the rest is easily in living memory.
As a kid I lived a couple of years at Pretoria and the Driveway. I remember Morrison -Lamonthe and buying ice cream cones at the Mutual.
The 417 did not exist and there were railroad tracks instead. On Isabella , across from where the Loblaws is now there were a couple of cattle pens. Cattle were dropped off there and held in the pens for pick-up.
On Lees you had the coal oil plant. There were piles of coal sitting in the open in the area. The New York Central Railroad had sidings there, where they parked rolling stock. My father had a part -time job for a while, where he would go and record the serial numbers and condition of what was parked there. In the days before computers and GPs, that was how they kept track of where there equipment was.
That end of Old Ottawa East was very much an industrial area at one time.
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Old Posted Dec 14, 2013, 5:08 PM
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So predictable that the render looks nothing like the original sketch. That's not a nice looking building and it's just typical of Ottawa. How did it go from that beautiful sketch to... this...? Where is the "French flair" that they were talking about?
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Old Posted Dec 14, 2013, 6:18 PM
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Tantalizing preliminary sketches.
From fantastic to frumpy in less than four months!

If built like this rendering it could join that other travesty on Le Breton Flats in the Ottawa book of opportunities squandered.

This is disappointing. I'm a prime candidate for this building. I know the neighbourhood well. I've used the dog park and attended events at St. Paul's. I have family connections into the neighbouring religious institutions. I'd gladly drop an extra 5-8% of my purchase price for exterior appointments that make an architectural statement beyond the condo equivalent of vinyl siding.

Instead it looks like Domicile was blinded by its bottom line and not inspired by the possibilities at hand.

Just imagine what Doug Casey could do with this prime location. Opportunity squandered indeed.

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Old Posted Dec 16, 2013, 4:51 AM
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Pretty bland, though, I have to say. Main St is also kind of an odd spot to go for echoes of an industrial/warehouse-style of architecture, given that that is not at all in the vernacular/history of that part of town.
Doesn't look like echoes of warehouses to me. Just like a zillion other recent condos.
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Old Posted Dec 16, 2013, 2:40 PM
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Hmm. Not as nice as the original sketch.
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Old Posted Dec 17, 2013, 9:54 PM
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My initial reaction was the same as everyone else's. Visiting this thread again today, however, I don't feel the new rendering really is so bad; definitely in the top 50% of what gets built in this city, possibly even the top 75%.

The developer really just shot themselves in the foot by releasing such good looking sketches initially, and then not living up to them.
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While not actually that close in design, I find it surprising how similar it is to the render for 129 Main St.


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=184998

Perhaps it just goes to show that this isn't exactly inspiring design. The european influenced sketch was much better.
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They were both designed by the same firm - Roderick Lahey Architects. So it shouldn't be too surprising that they are remarkably similar.

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While not actually that close in design, I find it surprising how similar it is to the render for 129 Main St.


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=184998

Perhaps it just goes to show that this isn't exactly inspiring design. The european influenced sketch was much better.
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They were both designed by the same firm - Roderick Lahey Architects. So it shouldn't be too surprising that they are remarkably similar.
NEUF (formerly DCYSA) designed this one, not Roderick Lahey
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Old Posted Jan 9, 2014, 4:48 PM
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The original plans, done back in 2008 (I believe), were designed by Lahey. Since then, the project has been delayed and new parties have come on board - but the current plans/design hasn't changed all that much from the original one.

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NEUF (formerly DCYSA) designed this one, not Roderick Lahey
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purchase went through for $3.5 million
http://www.juteaujohnsoncomba.com/ne...uary_Sales.pdf
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