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Old Posted Sep 12, 2013, 3:36 PM
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You must be the luckiest air traveler on the planet. My last three business trips have had flights cancelled, forcing two overnights in EWR and a lovely day in the PHL. That's in the last two months. I hate the early morning as much as the next man, but I can only spend so much time in Sunglass Hut.
No, I think I am the luckiest air traveler on the planet. Hundreds of flights all around the world over the decades and never once a cancellation, never once "bumped". Delayed a few times, but only once did it cause me to miss a connection (and they just put me on the next flight). I have led a charmed travelling life!
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 13, 2013, 2:54 PM
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Next time I travel to Phoenix, I'm going to Charlotte first. Toronto 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 for a transfer, especially if you have toddlers.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 13, 2013, 3:22 PM
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No, I think I am the luckiest air traveler on the planet. Hundreds of flights all around the world over the decades and never once a cancellation, never once "bumped". Delayed a few times, but only once did it cause me to miss a connection (and they just put me on the next flight). I have led a charmed travelling life!
I must have bad karma. While some of my flight schedules perform on time, many do not. Cancellations or delays that incur missed connections are quite normal for me. Seems whenever I'm booking my trip, I'm also ensuring there is a plan "B".
     
     
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Next time I travel to Phoenix, I'm going to Charlotte first. Toronto 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 for a transfer, especially if you have toddlers.
I'm a huge fan of Charlotte! The airport was made for connections! It's so streamlined. I do everything I can do avoid Pearson and I'm usually very good at it.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 14, 2013, 3:46 AM
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I'm a huge fan of Charlotte! The airport was made for connections! It's so streamlined. I do everything I can do avoid Pearson and I'm usually very good at it.
Agreed! Charlotte is one of the best hub airports in the US. It's a pity US has only one daily flight from Ottawa. I wish they'd dump their Philadelphia flights and offer up to 4 Charlotte flights instead!
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 9, 2013, 9:42 PM
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O-Train extension planned to tunnel under runway extension.. from the TMP "To the extent possible, this project should be undertaken in tandem with the extension of runway 07/25 at Ottawa MacDonald-Cartier International Airport. The extension will require an easement onto the O-Train right-of-way and will necessitate a short tunnel under the runway. Considerable economy can be realized if the two projects are completed at the same time."
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2013, 3:15 AM
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Excited that the new TMP includes infill stations at Gladstone and Walkley.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2013, 5:21 PM
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Sutcliffe: Easy access to airport vital for Ottawa’s business and tourism economy

By Mark Sutcliffe, OTTAWA CITIZEN October 24, 2013 1:02 PM


OTTAWA — The growth of Ottawa’s economy will be driven largely by two things: Getting more visitors to the city and getting local companies access to external markets to sell their products.

That’s why the community is investing more resources in marketing the city as a tourist attraction and attracting big events to Ottawa. And it’s why the mayor and a few dozen business leaders just travelled to China to explore business opportunities in that emerging economy.

If getting people in and out of Ottawa is essential to our economic prosperity, then the Ottawa Airport will be an increasingly important facility. We aren’t likely to build a second airport or relocate the current one, so we must find ways to make it easier for people to get to and from the existing airport so they can get to and from Ottawa.

On the surface, it may appear that the success of the airport will simply be a consequence of other economic activity. If we attract more people to Ottawa, for example, that ought to mean the airport will have more traffic as a result.

But if the right decisions aren’t made about access to the city and its airport, it could restrict the flow of visitors and the influx of businesses that sell their products abroad. To facilitate the travel that creates prosperity, we must ensure the Ottawa Airport continues to be a viable, sustainable, efficient hub for our community for the next generation.

The timing is critical because the airport is already facing revenue pressure from a declining amount of federal government travel (and not just from the senate).

The first step is to make air travel more affordable. The airports in Ottawa and other major Canadian cities are already losing traffic to competitors in Northern U.S. cities that capitalize on our higher taxes and fees. I did a quick search for a flight to Florida. The taxes and fees on the flight from Ottawa were roughly double the charges on a similar departure out of Syracuse.

We can’t continue to allow small facilities in the U.S. undercut our airports. In a time of budget deficits, the federal government may be reluctant to cut travel taxes but if the fees are too high, fewer people will pay them anyway.

A second important factor is increasing the number of direct flights to Ottawa. Having to transfer once or twice to get to and from Ottawa is a major deterrent to activity, adding time, logistics and the risk of a missed connection to the journey. The business community should continue to work with the airport on identifying key markets for tourism and export opportunities and then build and sustain some new routes.

But if business wants a new route, it has to use it regularly. The airlines that use Ottawa won’t subsidize a direct flight if there’s no business case for it. Indeed, the timeline for proving a route is viable has tightened dramatically.

Finally, the community has to make some decisions about the best way to get to and from the airport. The city’s transportation master plan proposes expanding the Airport Parkway to include lanes for taxis and high-occupancy vehicles. But it doesn’t yet go far enough.

Airport officials are arguing for an O-Train route that serves their facility. The city argues an expanded O-Train will serve more passengers if it goes south to Bowesville rather than turning at the airport. Some councillors have pointed out that the airport is already served by a bus route. And the mayor has reminded everyone that many major airports in other cities aren’t served by rapid transit.

But we shouldn’t rule out a transit link so quickly. The city and the airport should work together and come up with traffic forecasts and cost estimates on which they agree. Based on those numbers, they should evaluate whether there’s a business case for the O-Train to go to the airport. If there isn’t, then they should explore alternatives, including a monorail or other transportation loop that would link the airport and the Ernst & Young Centre to an O-Train on a different path.

But such an important decision is a mix of data and long-term vision. The city’s justification for a downtown tunnel and light-rail route from Tunney’s Pasture to Blair Road is built partly on numbers and partly on expectations for the city to grow and evolve. There’s a bit of “if you build it, they will come” to the rationale.

While a solid business case is crucial for any major investment, the same city-building logic applies to a transit link to the airport. If we are to imagine a prosperous Ottawa for the next 50 years, we must find ways to get people to and from the city easily and affordably and likewise to and from the airport.
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2013, 6:22 PM
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The first step is to make air travel more affordable. The airports in Ottawa and other major Canadian cities are already losing traffic to competitors in Northern U.S. cities that capitalize on our higher taxes and fees. I did a quick search for a flight to Florida. The taxes and fees on the flight from Ottawa were roughly double the charges on a similar departure out of Syracuse.

We can’t continue to allow small facilities in the U.S. undercut our airports. In a time of budget deficits, the federal government may be reluctant to cut travel taxes but if the fees are too high, fewer people will pay them anyway.
The prices are so high because of our Canadian air taxes. If the government would ease the taxes down a bit, the aviation industry would expand rapidly, but they're just too busy stuffing themselves with tax dollars to realise.

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A second important factor is increasing the number of direct flights to Ottawa. Having to transfer once or twice to get to and from Ottawa is a major deterrent to activity, adding time, logistics and the risk of a missed connection to the journey. The business community should continue to work with the airport on identifying key markets for tourism and export opportunities and then build and sustain some new routes.
Yes while I agree that the connections would make it a hassle, Ottawa just can't support more routes. If we could, Air Canada, Westjet and Porter would swoop in and start them; they're not stupid. On another front, maybe we can support some routes (think of a 3/4-weekly Ottawa-Paris flight) and they just want to gather the most amount of people in one area to keep the costs low for them and for the customers.

I agree, we need more service here to Ottawa (being a plane spotter reinforces this idea ) and the thought of that and the positive impact on the business side that the people here are arguing for excites me to think of it as a possibility someday.

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Finally, the community has to make some decisions about the best way to get to and from the airport. The city’s transportation master plan proposes expanding the Airport Parkway to include lanes for taxis and high-occupancy vehicles. But it doesn’t yet go far enough.

Airport officials are arguing for an O-Train route that serves their facility. The city argues an expanded O-Train will serve more passengers if it goes south to Bowesville rather than turning at the airport. Some councillors have pointed out that the airport is already served by a bus route. And the mayor has reminded everyone that many major airports in other cities aren’t served by rapid transit.

But we shouldn’t rule out a transit link so quickly. The city and the airport should work together and come up with traffic forecasts and cost estimates on which they agree. Based on those numbers, they should evaluate whether there’s a business case for the O-Train to go to the airport. If there isn’t, then they should explore alternatives, including a monorail or other transportation loop that would link the airport and the Ernst & Young Centre to an O-Train on a different path.
And now talk about yet another transit system? Good god, and we were just talking about reducing airport flying connections. How many will we need to take to get to the other side of the city?

"Monorail" to O-Train
O-Train to Confederation Line
Confederation Line to Bus
Bus then walk to your destination?

Just make the O-Train extension go to the EY Centre, Airport, Riverside South, Barrhaven already!
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2013, 6:34 PM
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And now talk about yet another transit system? Good god, and we were just talking about reducing airport flying connections. How many will we need to take to get to the other side of the city?
When I flew to San Francisco and went into the city I took the following:
- light rail at airport to BART station
- BART train into city
- SF subway train to my destination

the main issue with rapid transit is service frequency. Transfers are fine as long as there is frequent service but if the service from the airport is only every 15 or 30 minutes it's no good.
     
     
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The prices are so high because of our Canadian air taxes. If the government would ease the taxes down a bit, the aviation industry would expand rapidly, but they're just too busy stuffing themselves with tax dollars to realise.

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The airport itself is also guilty. A new shiny airport is nice but is paid for with a very high airport tax. US airports tend to renovate far less frequently and keep these departure taxes much lower.
     
     
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AA drops YOW-ORD service

AA is dropping ORD-YOW service effective early January, 2014. I looked for a booking for Jan 9 and all flights are showing as connections on WestJet through Toronto.

Sad to see loss of competition on the non-stop route.
     
     
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It's never nice to lose service, but AA never really helped itself with a poor schedule. The absence of an AM flight ORD->YOW was a big hole.

With this development both AA and the oneworld alliance are gone from YOW. I hope to see them return some day with service to MIA.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 28, 2013, 6:56 PM
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It's never nice to lose service, but AA never really helped itself with a poor schedule. The absence of an AM flight ORD->YOW was a big hole.

With this development both AA and the oneworld alliance are gone from YOW. I hope to see them return some day with service to MIA.
The AA brand will return some day I'm sure. Especially if the DOJ approves the AA/US merger.
     
     
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Hopefully United or Air Canada can bring up their service levels on the route now to take over.
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Hopefully United or Air Canada can bring up their service levels on the route now to take over.
I doubt we'll see AC take on this route. I can't think of another non-hub Canadian city that has AC flying to a UA hub.

More than likely, UA will either add another flight or more likely upgauge the equipment with their current schedule. Maybe we'll even get a mainline flight instead of UA Express to handle the additional loads on one (or two?) of those current flights?
     
     
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AC once operated the route 3x-daily alongside partner UA, but it handed the route off entirely to said partner some years ago. If I'm not mistaken AC and UA operate transborder in complete partnership (50/50), just like AC and LH operate transatlantic. I highly doubt we'll see AC start ORD again.

I'm also not so sure we'll see UA add any additional frequencies, seeing as how they already operate 4x-daily YOW->ORD and 5x-daily ORD->YOW. All of this is on RJ145 equipment ... if anything, maybe we'll see E170 service restored.
     
     
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Air North (Yukon's airline) is launching YXY-YZF-YOW service in Feb.

Service will operate twice weekly using 737-500 aircraft.
     
     
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Flights will be Sunday & Thursday from Whitehorse/Yellowknife to Ottawa and Monday & Thursday from Ottawa to Yellowknife/Whitehorse.

Here is the detailed schedule: http://flyairnorth.com/DealsAndNews/News.aspx?newsID=42

I know Canadian North flies Ottawa-Iqaluit-stop I can't remember-Yellowknife but that's one long flight. Hopefully Air North can make the direct flight work for them. I know the current First Air & Canadian North flights are heavily cargo based and there is a bunch of military/government traffic. I think the route will work for them plus Yellowknife and Whitehorse are much more of a tourist spot than Iqaluit. Service starts in February 6, 2014.
     
     
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Not sure about Canadian North, but First Air does Ottawa-Iqaluit-Rankin-Yellowknife
     
     
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