[Moncton] East (Harrisville, Lewisville, Tankville, Irishtown) Developments

[C_Boy]

I'm also for the idea of having the ramp go around the Best Western and meet at the set of lights at Shediac rd.

[Berge]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

First off, my apologies for the following proposal to fix the problems with the Hall's Creek traffic circle and the Botsford/Wheeler interchange. I'm just learning photo editing and I'm using a freebie program from the interweb…..

I think it's a given that a proper interchange can't be installed at Botsford/Wheeler. The CN overpass here puts the kibosh to any reasonable solution.

The only thing to do would be to put in an unconnected overpass here and not have a direct connection to Wheeler from Botsford.

What can be done is to extend Elmwood Drive all the way to Main Street, and to put in a proper interchange to connect this extension of Elmwood Drive to Wheeler Boulevard, thus eliminating the traffic circle completely.



By doing this, traffic from Botsford will only have to travel about another 300-400M northeasterly before turning right on the Elmwood Drive extension in order to access Route 15. This shouldn't be too much of a penalty to commuters.

An added benefit would be that residents of north central Moncton would have direct access to Route 15 and Main Street via the Elmwood Drive extension. Also, Route 15 would finally become the high speed expressway through Moncton that it should have been in the first place.

Thoughts??

I think this is a great concept, but the cost would be way to high for this to be considered IMO.

[Nashe]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Thoughts??

The ducks and geese, man! Who will think of the ducks and geese?!?!??

[NBNYer]

Originally Posted by Berge

I think this is a great concept, but the cost would be way to high for this to be considered IMO.

A diamond interchange is probably the cheapest way to get rid of the traffic circle but I'm not convinced that it would be an improvement. You're essentially adding two intersections to cross for westbound traffic headed to Main Street. The best solution is likely way more complex and expensive.

[David_99]

I just talked to someone at the Dewares Service Station and asked about the recently sold, old Price Chopper building next door. He said someone from Halifax bought it and they're likely to knock it down. I asked if he heard what they may build in it's place, he said the rumour was a possible TD Bank / Starbucks combo. Yes, possibly another Starbucks.

[NBNYer]

Originally Posted by David_99

I just talked to someone at the Dewares Service Station and asked about the recently sold, old Price Chopper building next door. He said someone from Halifax bought it and they're likely to knock it down. I asked if he heard what they may build in it's place, he said the rumour was a possible TD Bank / Starbucks combo. Yes, possibly another Starbucks.

It would be nice to see retailers move back to that neighborhood instead of relocating north near the TCH. Still, I think Starbucks and the bank would've been better suited for that proposal at McLaughlin and Morton. Especially having SB within walking distance from UdeM.

[David_99]

Originally Posted by NBNYer

It would be nice to see retailers move back to that neighborhood instead of relocating north near the TCH. Still, I think Starbucks and the bank would've been better suited for that proposal at McLaughlin and Morton. Especially having SB within walking distance from UdeM.

Agreed, although the proposed McLaughlin retail space probably won't be built until most of the empty spots, like the old Price Chopper, Lawtons etc are filled anyway.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by David_99

I just talked to someone at the Dewares Service Station and asked about the recently sold, old Price Chopper building next door. He said someone from Halifax bought it and they're likely to knock it down. I asked if he heard what they may build in it's place, he said the rumour was a possible TD Bank / Starbucks combo. Yes, possibly another Starbucks.

Interesting. This isn't the first time that the rumour of a Starbucks in this neighbourhood has come up, although I agree that a location closer to UdeM would make more sense.

Also, when Pita Pit first announced their expansion plans for the city (up to four locations - we have two now), they actually gave an address on Elmwood that I checked on Google Maps and it corresponded to the old Price Chopper location.

I expect we will see a small plaza built here with multiple tenants. TD Bank, Starbucks and Pita Pit would be a very good start!

[MonctonRad]

The new Kent store on Harrisville Blvd, all set to open.

[MonctonRad]

Thought I would post a (slightly) more professional looking conception of my solution to the Hall's Creek traffic circle and the Wheeler/Botsford intersection. Nothing new here, it just doesn't look like it was done by a three year old any more; perhaps a seven year old…….

[josh_cat_eyes]

That would allow for a large expansion of the mall area. I am still curious if there should be a 4-way intersection of the south side though. What do you think of extending that road over to Riverview?

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by josh_cat_eyes

That would allow for a large expansion of the mall area.

Yes, it would allow for some additional room to expand Champlain Place. Maybe we could get Cadillac Fairview to cough up some of the money for this highway realignment.

Originally Posted by josh_cat_eyes

I am still curious if there should be a 4-way intersection of the south side though. What do you think of extending that road over to Riverview?

I could certainly be done. In fact, if you look at this image of the master plan for Riverview East, you can see where a ROW is preserved to the west of Point Park, intersecting Hillsborough Road and extending on to the (the future) Bridgedale Blvd.



All this though would be very expensive, and New Brunswick is essentially bankrupt. I don't expect to see any major civil engineering projects like this for at least another 20 years…….

[josh_cat_eyes]

The Canadian Government is not bankrupt, however!!

[BlackYear]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Thought I would post a (slightly) more professional looking conception of my solution to the Hall's Creek traffic circle and the Wheeler/Botsford intersection. Nothing new here, it just doesn't look like it was done by a three year old any more; perhaps a seven year old…….

Now it looks like it was done by a teenage girl.

[mylesmalley]

Originally Posted by Budyser

Now it looks like it was done by a teenage girl.

Not enough 'i's with circles for dots

[MonctonRad]

Thanks - I think…….

Since we're in full blown fantasy mode here, I threw this together showing Josh's hoped for third crossing to Outhouse Point, and also a fourth crossing between (the proposed) Bridgedale Blvd and Melanson Rd in Dieppe. This should fix all of greater Moncton's traffic problems for at least a century!!

[josh_cat_eyes]

Interesting map. I never thought of Elmwood being straight through like that before. But there is a number of projects in greater Moncton.
Which project should be more important:
Replacing the causeway ENTIRELY
Replacing part of the causeway with a smaller bridge
A new bridge @ Outhouse Point
Downtown Events Centre
Overpass @ Airport
I think they all probably will get built eventually. Just the order determines how much it will cost the government.

[ErickMontreal]

A major development orchestrated by Université de Moncton and La Société de développement de L'université de Moncton has been proposed to be built on 83 hectares owned by the University.

A proposed hotel, medical center as well as a convention center are planned.

http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/atlan...t-universite-moncton-secteur-prive.shtml

[NBNYer]

Originally Posted by ErickMontreal

A major development orchestrated by Université de Moncton and La Société de développement de L'université de Moncton has been proposed to be built on 83 hectares owned by the University.

A proposed hotel, medical center as well as a convention center are planned.

http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/atlan...t-universite-moncton-secteur-prive.shtml

Looks huge. Hopefully something will actually get built. It could also give a boost to the stagnant HallsCreek development if the street network connects to it (I'm sure the developers of HC will make sure it does). This must have been in the works for some time, the university's dealine for proposals is already January 6th!

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by NBNYer

Looks huge. Hopefully something will actually get built. It could also give a boost to the stagnant HallsCreek development if the street network connects to it (I'm sure the developers of HC will make sure it does). This must have been in the works for some time, the university's dealine for proposals is already January 6th!

This is the development that I alluded to the other week.

If you read the article, it sounds like they want to break ground this summer. It also sounds as if the medical complex and the conference centre are pretty advanced in the planning stage. I think the university is fishing around for a partner for the hotel component of the project, but the timing may be bad as there is close to a glut for hotel rooms in the city.

Also, if you look closely at the image below NBNYer, you can see that the road network for this development will indeed interconnect with the Hall's Creek project, and will access Morton at the already signalized intersection leading into the UdeM campus next to the CEPS.