NEW YORK | 55 Hudson Yards | 780 FT | 51 FLOORS - Page 7

NYguy · #**121** Posted **Oct 6, 2013, 12:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by Crawford

Maybe they're transferring the air rights to that new site they just bought? In any case, they aren't going to just give up all that developable capacity.

From the way the city has it set up, I don't even know if that's possible. But then again, this is Related, and they've been pretty much able to get whatever they wanted from the city.

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And I thought they're planning on residential/mixed-use, not office, for this site, so I would imagine the new proposal is for something skinnier, though probably not shorter. We'll see.

Related has residential/mixed use for the site just south (Equinox), and practically all of the western half of the railyard development will be residential. I just think that it undermines the entire purpose of the Hudson Yards rezoning and the subway extension if it's just a sea of residential development. Those higher FAR's were put in place for office development.

The city has similar plans for Downtown Brooklyn and LIC in Queens. But far and away, it has been all residential development in those places.

NYguy · #**122** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 1:03 AM**

From the link I posted in the 450 thread...

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20131006/REAL_ESTATE/310069976

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The Related Cos., already in the process of developing the 26-acre, $15 billion Hudson Yards complex, has been the most voracious buyer of adjacent sites in a doubling down of its holdings in the area. The company has entered into a contract to acquire a parcel between West 35th and 36th streets—for $75 million or more—that will border a new "Hudson Boulevard" being constructed by the city to run between 10th and 11th avenues. Related has approached Alloy Development to acquire its site, too, in a bid to substantially boost the size of that parcel, though it's unclear whether Alloy will decide to sell. Most of Related's acquisitions have been for locations closest to the new subway link.

"We anticipate that as much as 70% of tenants will be coming to the area via the No. 7," said Jay Cross, an executive at Related who is president of the Hudson Yards venture. "As the subway comes closer to completion, tenants have been more willing to take space in the Hudson Yards."

Related is also in talks, sources say, to purchase the site of a -McDonald's on the corner of West 33rd Street and 10th Avenue, allowing it to amass another jumbo parcel. That property sits east of another lot that Related bought for an undisclosed price from developer Gary Barnett during the summer. The land there can accommodate a 1.7 million-square-foot, 57-story commercial tower.

That McDonald's will probably be the final piece of Related's assemblage for that lot, which would probably be closer to 3msf total. The One Hudson Yards website now directs you to Related, which is tying everything in to the railyards development.

These two sites sit opposite each other and directly north of the railyards...

http://www.hudsonyardsnewyork.com/articl...e-anchor-food-market-at-hudson-yards-114

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The 28-acre site, which now includes 1 and 2 Hudson Boulevard, will transform the neighborhood...

2 Hudson Blvd

1 Hudson Blvd

NYguy · #**123** Posted **Oct 17, 2013, 7:57 PM**

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-10...on-hudson-yards-rail-platform-in-january

By David M. Levitt
October 17, 2013

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Among the two new projects added to the Hudson Yards plan is the redesign of the 47-story tower at 1 Hudson Boulevard, which would be primarily an office building for law firms, Cross said. The site, north of the yards between West 33rd and 34th streets, was purchased earlier this year from Gary Barnett’s Extell Development Co.

NYguy · #**124** Posted **Oct 22, 2013, 3:31 AM**

http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-real-estate/new-york/152-one-day-seven-development-chiefs/

October 21, 2013

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Related is scrapping Extell's 56-story design for One Hudson Yards (Related acquired the site in a land swap with Extell this summer) and is instead designing a 47-story, 1.3M SF office tower to be called 1 Hudson Blvd, Related Hudson Yards president Jay Cross told the NY Building Congress over breakfast at the Hilton. We snapped Jay, right, with the org's president, Dick Anderson.

It'll be Hudson Yards' smaller-floorplate option for office tenants (Related is thinking law firms), as opposed to the 2.4M SF north tower's 70k SF lower-level floors. Jay says those were designed for financial services trading floors, and though that sector no longer is a likely tenant, the larger floors are still popular.

NYguy · #**125** Posted **Dec 4, 2013, 10:31 PM**

^ A first look at the 47-story tower?

hunser · #**126** Posted **Dec 4, 2013, 11:02 PM**

Jeez those new (street) addresses sure are confusing. So now we have 55 Hudson Yards, great. What's next? 45, 50 HY?

UTEPman · #**127** Posted **Dec 4, 2013, 11:12 PM**

Are they putting a spire on the coach tower now? Looks a little awkward for the design of the building in that render

franktko · #**128** Posted **Dec 4, 2013, 11:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by UTEPman

Are they putting a spire on the coach tower now? Looks a little awkward for the design of the building in that render

That's the BOA spire

vkristof · #**129** Posted **Dec 5, 2013, 12:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by franktko

That's the BOA spire

I think he's actually referring to the comm spire of the good old ESB, whose bulk is mostly hidden by the Coach Tower.

Submariner · #**130** Posted **Dec 5, 2013, 12:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by vkristof

I think he's actually referring to the comm spire of the good old ESB, whose bulk is mostly hidden by the Coach Tower.

No, I think that's the BofA spire. Note that it's right next to that strange looking times square building with the massive spire on it (the one with H&M on the top)

Crawford · #**131** Posted **Dec 5, 2013, 1:17 AM**

It's the BOA spire.

Hudson11 · #**132** Posted **Dec 5, 2013, 5:27 AM**

55 HY seems to be in the neighborhood of 650ft, judging by that model

NYguy · #**133** Posted **Dec 5, 2013, 1:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by hunser

Jeez those new (street) addresses sure are confusing. So now we have 55 Hudson Yards, great. What's next? 45, 50 HY?

They could and should have made it simpler. It's like all of a sudden they decided to make everything more uncertain and chaotic. I can see what they did, though it still doesn't make sense. Grouping the towers by twos, and going east to west:

10 HY - 15 HY = Coach and Corsett

30 HY - 35 HY = North and E towers

50 HY - 55 HY = Two and One Hudson Boulevard

JayPro · #**134** Posted **Dec 5, 2013, 6:27 PM**

I dunno...The top to this one looks as if it's straddling the line between pretentious and ill-conceived..........There's a more detailed render posted at SSC; but it doesn't seem to change my mind a great deal.
Assuming that this isn't final; I'm sure to warm up to it.
Edit: I shared (with credit given FTR) SSC poster VerticalGotham's pics of these new changes; and I just noticed that in some pics (but not all) the building discussed in this thread seems to have lost the wavy top. It remains to be seen IMO which version we're going to see finalized...or even a "v.3", if you will.

Hypothalamus · #**135** Posted **Dec 5, 2013, 8:01 PM**

New York YIMBY:

Revealed: Hudson Yards
BY: NIKOLAI FEDAK ON DECEMBER 5TH 2013 AT 1:30 PM

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55 Hudson Yards is where Extell’s World Product Center – aka ‘One Hudson Boulevard’ – would have risen. That site was acquired by Related in a land swap, and it appears that the tower has undergone a major revision from Extell’s version. Indeed, the total space has been reduced to 1.3 million square feet, and the shrinkage is corroborated by renderings, which show a relatively short tower that will stand 47 stories tall.

55 Hudson Yards will still stand a similar height to the Coach Tower, which will be approximately 900 feet tall.
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Though no timeframe has been unveiled for completion, work on 50 and 55 Hudson Yards will probably be finished in the 2020s.

50 HY at left, 55 HY at right

55 HY at far left

The Hudson Yards

NYguy · #**136** Posted **Dec 5, 2013, 8:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by tubeworm

The Hudson Yards

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55 Hudson Yards will still stand a similar height to the Coach Tower, which will be approximately 900 feet tall.

Not really a bad design either.

King DenCity · #**137** Posted **Dec 5, 2013, 9:13 PM**

^ My gosh they are beautiful.

antinimby · #**138** Posted **Dec 6, 2013, 3:48 AM**

I don't get the reduction in the FAR and where did it go? No way would Related or any developer for that matter, forego any buildable space voluntarily.

chris08876 · #**139** Posted **Dec 6, 2013, 4:49 AM**

I'm wondering if this is the largest(soon too be) concentration(Exception Dubai) of 290m+ within a .3sq miles in the world? It looks like it will be. Super talls just a feet away from each other. NYC's future Redwood Forest.

hunser · #**140** Posted **Dec 6, 2013, 11:50 AM**

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I'm wondering if this is the largest(soon too be) concentration(Exception Dubai) of 290m+ within a .3sq miles in the world? It looks like it will be. Super talls just a feet away from each other. NYC's future Redwood Forest.

Yes, Hudson Yards / Manhattan West could potentially become home of the densest supertall complex in the world:

- North Tower
- Equinox Tower
- McD site
- Girasole
- Sherwood
- Manhattan West 1
- Manhattan West 2
- Realtor Tower
- ...

Add Lower Manhattan, Midtown, Midtown East Rezoning, 57th Street, Downtown Brooklyn, LIC, Jersey City and several supertalls spread through the Manhattan Island into the mix, and you'll get one of the biggest and most impressive skylines in the world.