Community Development - Blatchford - Page 35

SHOFEAR · #**681** Posted **Nov 7, 2013, 3:30 PM**

Pretty — article. Lots of info needed.

my guess. He has only been leasing the site for a few years because the previous tenant saw the writing on the wall. He got a sweetheart deal because enobody else was willing to invest in such a space.

tough —.

Coldrsx · #**682** Posted **Nov 7, 2013, 4:08 PM**

Have heard that the City legal dept is being very aggressive with people for no good reason.

CMD UW · #**683** Posted **Nov 7, 2013, 4:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

Well that is illegal. If it is an expropriation, you have to pay the amount it will cost to build something of similar functionality as your existing asset, plus the business costs of the transition.

Lease is different of course, but the same rules, depriving someone of a value of an asset they have rights to, plus the inconvenience cost.

The company on appeal will get the full cost of moving plus the cost of business disruption.

It's tough to comment on this when you don't know the full details.

kcantor · #**684** Posted **Nov 7, 2013, 5:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Have heard that the City legal dept is being very aggressive with people for no good reason.

really? and you think this is a good example of that? on what basis?

i don't know all of the details here - actually i don't know anything other than what was in the article - but here's my take:

the tenant is renting a building. he has to return it to the owner in 7 years at which time he will receive absolutely nothing for returning it - it does after all belong to his landlord.

the landlord wants the building earlier than that and is offering to give the tenant up-front cash equal to half of what his building (the landlord's building, not the tenant's building) is worth to secure that. the landlord has also offered to pay for the tenant's relocation cost to another building.

and the tenant is saying "that's not enough cash" and "i also want you to pay me for the costs of moving all of my subtenants - because i don't actually use all of the building anymore anyway - in addition to my costs even though i don't have any obligation to reimburse them for anything involved in their move whether they move with me or not".

and you think this is "the city legal department being very aggressive with people for no good reason" and not a tenant who has know for years and years and years that he is going to have to relocate being very aggressive for whatever reason?

Coldrsx · #**685** Posted **Nov 7, 2013, 5:11 PM**

^horse's mouth from certain people dealing with them, but I do agree they have had considerable notice and so my level of sympathy is low, however it seems as though things could be handled a little better.

s211 · #**686** Posted **Nov 7, 2013, 5:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Have heard that the City legal dept is being very aggressive with people for no good reason.

That's what lawyers do. It's their job.

Try dealing with American lawyers some time. You'd go deaf in five seconds after they start shrieking about how they're kings of the world.

Coldrsx · #**687** Posted **Nov 7, 2013, 5:25 PM**

Sure, but there has been and needs to be some inherent sense of respect and gratitude.

Black Star · #**688** Posted **Nov 7, 2013, 5:31 PM**

What do u call 200 lawyers at the bottom of the sea....

A good start

CMD UW · #**689** Posted **Nov 7, 2013, 6:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Sure, but there has been and needs to be some inherent sense of respect and gratitude.

What evidence is there to support the claim that the City has been disrespectful during this process? I doubt very little other than hearsay. Given the scale and complexity of this expropriation, not everyone is going to be happy with the process and particularly the City.

Xelebes · #**690** Posted **Nov 7, 2013, 6:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by BLACK STAR

What do u call 200 lawyers at the bottom of the sea....

A good start

There are some lawyers on this site, you know.

Black Star · #**691** Posted **Nov 7, 2013, 10:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by Xelebes

There are some lawyers on this site, you know.

Its a joke...

!

240glt · #**692** Posted **Nov 7, 2013, 11:52 PM**

I come from a family of lawyers

Most of them are a big fan of the self-depreciating humour

I've also seen them rip people to shreds.. just for the sport of it

Black Star · #**693** Posted **Nov 8, 2013, 3:21 AM**

^Absolutely...

Good Lawyers bad lawyers....Good mechanics bad mechanics....Its nice to not take life so seriously. I have a sister and cousin who are Doctors...their the biggest jokesters I have ever met. Course next to me

Hallsy's Toupee · #**694** Posted **Nov 17, 2013, 5:30 AM**

According to EIA twitter, Alberta Flying Heritage Museum is opening at Villeneuve...this seems to be a sorta-kinda move of the Alberta Aviation Museum, who want to stay at City Centre but were lamenting the loss of runways and lack of room to expand.

https://twitter.com/FlyEIA

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Marvin Kowalchuk announces the foundation of the Alberta Flying Aviation Museum at Villeneuve Airport

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Myron Keehn says Edmonton Airpoorts is proud to support new museum

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Tom Hinderks speaks to media about how Alberta Flying Heritage Museum will complement Alberta Aviation Museum

Hallsy's Toupee · #**695** Posted **Nov 17, 2013, 10:38 PM**

Global: New aviation museum to be built just outside Edmonton at Villeneuve Airport
CTV: Flying heritage museum planned for Alberta

Edmontonium · #**696** Posted **Nov 18, 2013, 2:31 AM**

I have visited museum couple weeks ago and front desk told me as far as they were informed they stay open in the same location for couple of years at least.