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Old Posted Nov 16, 2013, 4:59 PM
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2013, 6:23 PM
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Had a chance today to snap a crappy phone pic of Rincon Hill from a certain floor of 101 Cal:
Were you in my office ?!? I have the same view from about the same height up! Looks like you may have been on 32 or 33?



BTW SFMOMA has another Liebher Luffing crane up!
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2013, 10:07 PM
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Were you in my office ?!? I have the same view from about the same height up! Looks like you may have been on 32 or 33?
Yep, 33!
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Where is the Salesforce site? Is it south Mission Bay, or is it closer to China Basin? Because if the latter, to me that's just as close if not closer to SoMa (aka Brannan St, Townsend, Harrison, Bryant, Showplace Square certainly, etc) than SFD.
It's across from UCSF's new hospital, extending south down Fourth Street. [Delayed response from Singapore with buildings of all sizes that simply blow me away.]
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 17, 2013, 6:58 AM
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78 Townsend underway

this is finally happening, I noticed today... here looking south down Colin P Kelly towards Townsend:



and here the demolition inside the now-hollow shell:



I'm kinda bummed they're not undoing all that stucco-y stuff that I think was added in the 90s - I imagine there is some nice brick under there
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2013, 7:14 AM
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SFMOMA, another Liebherr Luffing crane!



I added pics of Lumina (with a visit from our friends at Bigge), 45 Lansing, 350 Mission, 535 Mission, and Transbay Tower. No construction activity at TB Block 6/7, 340 Fremont, 399 Fremont. The 222 Second site was active, however.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 19, 2013, 4:56 PM
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Jack Tar Hotel - New CA. Pacific Hospital - I see in today's SF Chronicle a picture of the old hotel building is now being demolished to make way for the new highrise hospital at Van Ness Ave. and Geary. I will have to go by and take a look before it is gone.
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socketsite has a story up today about goodwill putting their facility at south van ness x mission on the market in early 2014.

http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2013/...minent_mission_street_site_zoned_fo.html
     
     
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socketsite has a story up today about goodwill putting their facility at south van ness x mission on the market in early 2014.

http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2013/...minent_mission_street_site_zoned_fo.html
SF BT followed up with a story on plumbers union possibly putting up its 12th and Market 2 acre property up for sale

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/2013/11/local-38-could-follow-goodwill-with.html
     
     
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100 Van Ness Ave. Rendering

I see the first rendering of 150 Van Ness Ave. on Socket Site. The architecture is so different for San Francisco that I am not sure if I like it or not. It is hard to fit in the Civic Center for me. Anywhere else I would not hesitate

http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2013/...ness_avenue_and_over_400_units.html#more
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nice story on the plumbers union property. would be even better if it included civic center hotel, which they also own, i believe.
     
     
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AVA - 55th Ninth Street Sculpture

The facade of 55th Ninth Street is finished for the most part - which I find to be the most successful one of all of the highrises in the neighborhood. (Compare to NEMA's blank grey wall). I do find the south side to be a bit too busy for my taste, but that aside AVA is a nice addition to the neighborhood.

The sculpture is now installed at AVA and I find it to be a great disappointment. It looks like the artist did not know when to stop. It is a train wreck! If half of the exploding pianos sculptures were removed I think it would be a great success. As it is now the mass weighs down on the 10th Street facade and detracts from the architect's very nicely done face on 9th Street.

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Ha, ha, is that Ava sculpture supposed to be some sort of nod to Defenestration over on 6th Street??
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 23, 2013, 2:41 AM
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I grabbed lunch on Mission today (work at Market/California/Davis) and the amount of construction between First St and Second St around Mission is UNBELIEVABLE.

Cement mixers and all sorts of heavy machinery on-site at TB Tower with work really going. Someone mentioned it looked like they may have poured a caisson at 181 Fremont catty corner. 350 Mission is rising above the street. 535 Mission is around floor 20 now. Not too far away Lumina is officially under construction with foundation poured (still waiting on the 2-4 tower cranes that will grace that site). There are seriously more construction workers walking around on the sidewalks than everyday people.

I've been pondering in my head what that area is going to look like (let alone all of the South FiDi and the whole southern half of the skyline). I know the skyline now is already larger than all but a small handful of cities in the country, but with the height of the towers UC and the sheer amount of them, I think we're ensuring ourselves as the solid step behind NYC and Chicago. In fact, I'd argue that a built-out SF CBD in 10 years at the proposed and under construction heights, both office and residential, is only found in similar density/fashion (and dare I say heights) in NYC, Chicago, and Toronto.

Just a recap because it's so awesome!

Substantial Progress
NEMA - 37 floors - substantially complete
One Rincon Hill North - 50 floors - substantially complete

Major Progress Under Way
535 Mission - 27 floors (around floor 20 now)
45 Lansing - 45 floors - rising above street level
350 Mission - 33 floors - rising above street level

Definitely Under Way but not yet moved to Construction Boards
201 Folsom Tower 1 - 43 floors - partial foundation poured
201 Folsom Tower 2 - 37 floors - partial foundation poured
222 Second - 26 floors - excavation basically complete
181 Fremont - 54 floors - potentially a caisson was poured today
Transbay Tower - 63 floors - going hard on the site now

Real work/groundbreaking imminent
299 Folsom - 32 floors - land just sold and project just financed, excavation commencing
340 Fremont - 41 floors - project financed and ready to go, permits awarded, site "taped off"


Too much work to even think about buildings below 30 floors (with a few exceptions on the office side above since 25-30 floors of office could be 400' or higher). I'm sure I'm missing something.
     
     
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Simms' excellent post reminded me of an old one. Just for the sake of contrast, I went back almost exactly 5 years in this thread -- back to some really dark times for development in SF. Below is a post from November 14, 2008. The last of the big projects from the previous boom were wrapping up and proposals that were expected to start were dying left and right (basically everything below not already under construction was put on hold):

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A few of updates from the last couple of weeks, notably 45 Lansing and 10th/Market.

In Progress/Complete
301 Mission - tower and midrise exteriors basically complete; interiors and grounds under construction

One Rincon Hill phase 1 - tower complete; townhomes and landscaping approaching completion

555 Mission - complete; finishing plaza and interior

Infinity - tower 1 and townhomes complete; tower 2 exterior complete; courtyard nearing completion

631 Folsom - facade largely complete, interior, ground level and landscaping in progress

One Hawthorne - under construction; pouring at street level; rebar up to first/second level

Trinity - under construction; last I checked they were working on level 12


Proposed/Still Alive
Transbay Tower - Hines deal approved; awaiting final approval of height zoning changes; I'm just hoping Hines doesn't back out with this economy.

350 Mission - expected to start in 2009; I'm dubious

45 Lansing - Turnberry sold 50% stake to Group 24; excavation due to begin Q1 2009; project should take 30 months to complete

10th and Market (Crescent Heights) - interior being redesigned for apartments rather than condos; timing unknown


On Hold/Dead
One Rincon Hill phase 2 - on hold

535 Mission - on hold; excavation complete; piles driven and being sealed for the wait until construction starts again

The Californian (375 Fremont) - Fifield is trying to sell their development entitlements; basically dead for now

340-350 Fremont - Peebles is trying to sell their development entitlements; basically dead for now

350 Bush - was supposed to be delivered in 2009; entitled through 2010; nothing is happening onsite; I think it's on hold/dead, but no official statement to that effect

Now, almost all of those are back in action with some notable additions (headers are from 5 years ago to highlight how things have changed). A bit of a repeat from Simms' post, but just to put it all in one place:

Proposed/Still Alive (in 2008, remember these all went on hold)
Transbay Tower, 1070' - Site prep is underway.
350 Mission, 445' - Under construction, climbing above street level.
45 Lansing, 450' - Under construction, climbing to street level.
10th and Market (now called NEMA), 352' - Under construction, exterior nearing completion.

On Hold/Dead (in 2008)
One Rincon Hill phase 2, 541' - Under construction, near topping off, if not there already.
535 Mission, 380' - Back under construction, rising steadily.
The Californian (375/399 Fremont), 400' - Dropped the name, but just filed for the shoring/excavation permits; expected to start by the end of the year. Also, I think this will be taller than 400' when built.
340-350 Fremont, 440' - Building permits in place, now awaiting demo permits to clear site; there is already equipment onsite however. Like its neighbor (375/399) directly across the street, expected to start very soon.
350 Bush - The one project from this list not showing signs of imminent construction, although there are some rumblings.

In addition, there are now these active projects which weren't anywhere close to starting yet:
181 Fremont, 802' (to spire) - Excavation underway, will be officially under construction next year.
201 Folsom (Lumina), 400' and 350' - Excavation almost complete, and already started on the foundation.
Transbay Block 6, 300' - Site prep underway.
222 Second, 350' - Excavation nearing completion. Will be officially under construction soon.
Trinity 2 - This was built and now there are signs phase 3 will start soon.

And that doesn't include a bunch of proposals at various stages of approval and financing. This is truly a remarkable time for development in the city. I dare say on par with the massive boom of the 70s/early 80s. Enjoy it, folks. Reading back through those posts form the dark times reminded me how depressing it was. There was one quote from a developer saying we would never see another residential tower built in San Francisco again. Hyperbole for sure, but that's how bleak it felt.
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Another thing to note: back then we were discussing proposals for various lots up and down Market. We all wanted to see them built, but it didn't look good. Now, almost every single one of them has been built or is underway. Another amazing contrast to the dark times.
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4 big projects that unfortunately haven't progressed or are still in very preliminary stages:

50 first street (2 towers, zoned for about 900 ft; http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=185537)
one van ness (one of the nicest looking proposals: http://sf.curbed.com/tags/one-van-ness)
the museum tower (http://sf.curbed.com/tags/706-mission)
the seawall and warriors stadium
     
     
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Yes, and to add to your list:
500 Folsom, 400-500' - working it's way through Planning.
524 Howard, 450'- working it's way through Planning.
Mission Rock, various heights, none particularly tall - Giants' big development in Mission Bay, also working it's way through planning.
75 Howard St, 351' - needs exemptions for height. Seems unlikely to me, but we'll see.
41 Tehama, 380' - awaiting approval for height increase, which it is zoned for so should happen.
Palace Hotel Tower, 400'- no clue where this one stands

Though not a high-rise, we can't forget the biggest project currently underway: the new Transbay Terminal.
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4 big projects that unfortunately haven't progressed or are still in very preliminary stages:

50 first street (2 towers, zoned for about 900 ft; http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=185537)
one van ness (one of the nicest looking proposals: http://sf.curbed.com/tags/one-van-ness)
the museum tower (http://sf.curbed.com/tags/706-mission)
the seawall and warriors stadium
706 Mission is actually much further along than the others. It could theoretically break ground next year if everything goes its way. I believe it's had its EIR approved, design approved by Planning, and height increase approved by the BOS.

However, it's currently pending a lawsuit, so who knows how that one will end up. And opponents are threatening the nuclear option of strictly enforcing Prop K citywide.
     
     
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