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Old Posted Nov 13, 2013, 11:32 AM
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While I very much agree with Future Mayor's analogy regarding structures changing their significance over time, I just don't think the Shilo will ever gain architectural prominence as an example of it's era.

I tend to agree with your train of thought AjiuO on the Shilo. For me, it's a bitter presence, especially when I think that it replaced a significant and very beautiful Sullivan. At the very least I'd like to see them give it a reclad. Something with fantastic street presence, like the Key Bank tower redo, and new materials on the tower portion itself.

Future Mayor or anyone, I'm trying to remember, but does Salt Lake have any other examples of that particular style, which was constructied during that decade? Anything that would suffice as an example of that particular design and finish? The Plaza is kind of along that line, but I'm looking forward to it's eventual demise too. Hmm, though the COB might actually be alot more worthy example of that era. If they were to keep the Shilo in pristine shape, as a living, functioning museum of that era, then sure, keep it going. However, from the many comments on the forum, it doesn't seem like it's kept in mint condition.

Perhaps on second thought, and because of it's incredible location, it would be far wiser to remake it into a five star boutique hotel. It's the right location and the right size. It could be a real jewel with the right backing, redo, and managment.

Give the Shilo a five star makeover. Build a spectacular CCH, worthy of Salt Lake's incredible convention potential. Along with the contined expansion of office, commercial and residential in the immediate vicinity, the new CCC and coming UPAC, etc. etc. With these many things and so much else coming to fruition, it would indeed be time for Saks, Bloomingdales, and Neimans to enter the CBD retail market. Salt Lake's unique skiing experience among major metros, several mega conventions, Christmas at Temple Square, CCC and Sundance are ingredients that give major upscale retail players an irresistible attraction toward a downtown like Salt Lake City. Salt Lake City will be arriving at the point in the next few years where players like Sak's and Neiman's need only discover Salt Lake, much as so many other prestigious organizations have lately. It's a market that is almost as much about the well heeled visitor as it is the local residents.

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Shilo Inn is a total dump. It ought to be knocked down and a larger hotel built there.

It is NOT a SLC landmark. It is a SLC EYESORE!


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While I very much agree with Future Mayor's analogy regarding structures changing their significance over time, I just don't think the Shilo will never gain architectural prominence as an example of it's era.

I tend to agree with your train of thought AjiuO on the Shilo. For me, it's a bitter presence, especially when I think that it replaced a significant and very beautiful Sullivan. At the very least I'd like to see them give it a reclad. Something with fantastic street presence, like the Key Bank tower redo, and new materials on the tower portion itself.

Future Mayor or anyone, I'm trying to remember, but does Salt Lake have any other examples of that particular style, which was constructied during that decade? Anything that would suffice as an example of that particular design and finish? The Plaza is kind of along that line, but I'm looking forward to it's eventual demise too. Hmm, though the COB might actually be alot more worthy example of that era. If they were to keep the Shilo in pristine shape, as a living, functioning museum of that era, then sure, keep it going. However, from the many comments on the forum, it doesn't seem like it's kept in mint condition.

Perhaps on second thought, and because of it's incredible location, it would be far wiser to remake it into a five star boutique hotel. It's the right location and the right size. It could be a real jewel with the right backing, redo, and managment.

Give the Shilo a five star makeover. Build a spectacular CCH, worthy of Salt Lake's incredible convention potential. Along with the contined expansion of office, commercial and residential in the immediate vicinity, the new CCC and coming UPAC, etc. etc. With these many things and so much else coming to fruition, it would indeed be time for Saks, Bloomingdales, and Neimans to enter the CBD retail market. Salt Lake's unique skiing experience among major metros, several mega conventions, Christmas at Temple Square, CCC and Sundance are ingredients that give major upscale retail players an irresistible attraction toward a downtown like Salt Lake City. Salt Lake City will be arriving at the point in the next few years where players like Sak's and Neiman's need only discover Salt Lake, much as so many other prestigious organizations have lately. It's a market that is almost as much about the well heeled visitor as it is the local residents.
     
     
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I doubt the Shilo Inn was considered high quality even at the time it was built. You wouldn't take a cheap stucco house from the suburbs and preserve it as is for the sake of representing an era when developers could get away with cheap and shoddy work. Why is the Shilo any different just because it's a building downtown? If they were to fix it up to its original quality it would still be an eyesore because it never was a nice building.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 13, 2013, 9:06 PM
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So then, is the Shilo such a dump that it would need to be gutted down to the steel frame, if it were to be made into an upscale boutique Hotel? Would a new skin, carpeting, furnishings etc. work? Because of it's incredibly fortunate location, I do think that it could support a major upscale facelift inside and out. That is an excellent location for a 5 star/diamond boutique hotel. As long as it's structurally sound.
     
     
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Skin is going up on the new Boyer Building, and they're unloading steel beams at the La Porte State street site. It looks like the underground parking is about done on that.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2013, 7:26 PM
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Skin is going up on the new Boyer Building, and they're unloading steel beams at the La Porte State street site. It looks like the underground parking is about done on that.
Finally!!!

Thanks for the update.
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Now we'll actually see more measurable progress on LaPorte. I can't wait to see that Project come to fruition, especially the Rex Theater front.
     
     
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Yeah, I wrote that message about La Porte this morning, and when I came back the same way this afternoon, they already had a few of those beams up. I'm excited to see this thing establish a presence on State Street.
     
     
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Yeah, I wrote that message about La Porte this morning, and when I came back the same way this afternoon, they already had a few of those beams up. I'm excited to see this thing establish a presence on State Street.
Are they using that same crane?, or is there another crane on site? Thank you for the update and glad to hear things are moving forward.
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Yeah, they're still using the same crane. They even put Christmas lights on it, so I assume they'll be sticking with that crane for a while. I'll try and snap some pictures this weekend.
     
     
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By Lisa Riley Roche, Deseret News, Published: Thursday, Nov. 14 2013 5:45 p.m. MST

"Gov. Gary Herbert met Thursday with Boeing executives about the possibility of moving production of the new 777X airplane to Utah, one of several states the company is reportedly considering."

"The Washington state-based airplane maker is talking about sending jobs to Utah, South Carolina, Texas or other states after union workers rejected a long-term contract."

"Sources told the Seattle Times that an internal Boeing analysis identified Salt Lake City as a top alternative manufacturing site, along with Long Beach, Calif., and Huntsville, Ala."

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Comic Con 2014 dates have been announced, Sept 4-6, and a new event, FanX sounds really cool and is happening April 17-19. Both should be big! http://bit.ly/1gPfkcO

I have also heard news of another new outdoor / alternative sports convention, like OR, but everyone will be able to attend with sports figures, contests, and events - I'll let you know more when I hear it.

Is there really any reason why the Convention Center Hotel won't be built?

Our 9th & 9th neighborhood was featured in the Washington Post travel section, it's a nice small piece and talks about walkability, but doesn't talk about our other walkable neighborhoods. But hey, that's pretty awesome. Read the post - http://wapo.st/1bIlJRe
     
     
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If this doesn't get the CCH development to move forward, then nothing will.
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Old Posted Nov 15, 2013, 6:51 AM
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I think the line of thinking is backwards on why we'll get a CCH.

It's not the conventions that are coming to town that will show a need for the CCH to be built. These conventions obviously don't feel that a CCH is necessary, if they did wouldn't be scheduling their conventions here in the first place.

Conventions that choose not to come here and conventions that are here for several years and choose not to renew here (OR), because we don't have a CCH and additional convention space, will be the reason why we end up getting a CCH.

The question that the legislature would ask is, "why do we need a CCH when we have all these new conventions coming without building one?"

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Has some progress been made on the restoration of the old Zims?
     
     
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Has some progress been made on the restoration of the old Zims?
Nothing notable on the outside of the building; they may have been doing a lot of interior work, though. I still love this project...hopefully it is moving forward.
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Ditto to that Jedi. I'm anxious to see this project completed. Then hopefully, someone will get going on the Dinwoody.
     
     
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