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Old Posted Nov 14, 2013, 11:11 AM
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The TORONTO 2015 Pan American/Parapan American Games Organizing Committee (TO2015) and Infrastructure Ontario (IO) will conduct a media technical briefing on construction progress at the Tim Hortons Field on Thursday, November 14. Watch it live on Ticats.ca

The briefing is scheduled to begin at 9 a.m.

Ticats TV will provide a full report on Thursday afternoon.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2013, 2:22 PM
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Get ready for a Tim Hortons museum at Tim Hortons Field...

"And any truth whatsoever to the rumour that the first store would be closed and replaced by a deluxe stadium store at the new Tim Horton Field?

......

So here’s the word on the street. Hortons forgets about that sacred cradle of the cruller on Ottawa. And 1.5 kilometres to the west, at the ready-next-year new home of the Ticats, Hortons builds a super store.

And in it, rumour says, a doughnut museum. Only in Hamilton."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/p...ons-finally-unveils-cup-sleeve-1.2425691
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2013, 2:53 PM
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Doughnut museum... yes, please.

And there is precedent for a Tim Horton's location in a sports venue... not many people outside of Winnipeg know this, but part of the MTS Centre's main concourse functions as a Tim Horton's when there aren't any events taking place. There are literally tables and chairs set up in the concourse. So our NHL arena basically doubles as a big donut shop.
     
     
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Observe that no one in the video claims that construction is on schedule. In fact, when the mayor raised the issues of schedule and budget, he claimed only that the stadium was on budget but stayed silent on whether it was on schedule, saying only that it would be completed in "about a year."

The first pre-season game is in seven months.
     
     
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Not a chance will it be ready for week 1. Maybe Labour Day, but not week 1. But at least it isn't as far behind schedule as IGF was.
     
     
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Observe that no one in the video claims that construction is on schedule. In fact, when the mayor raised the issues of schedule and budget, he claimed only that the stadium was on budget but stayed silent on whether it was on schedule, saying only that it would be completed in "about a year."

The first pre-season game is in seven months.
Councillor Lloyd Ferguson said the project was back on schedule during a radio interview yesterday that was linked on the previous page

http://www.900chml.com/audio/

Go to November 13th at 10am - around 9 minutes in
     
     
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Councillor Lloyd Ferguson said the project was back on schedule during a radio interview yesterday...
Claims that were not repeated at today's update.
     
     
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By Ferguson?



anyways - it was a comment made before they went out and viewed the site - I'll wait to see what is reported after that

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By Ferguson?
By the mayor and the person in charge of construction at today's briefing.

Watch the video.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2013, 6:13 PM
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I watched it thanks
     
     
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Yeah, that guy at the update looked real panicked. It's always a good idea to hold a non compulsory project update when you're behind schedule just to give people the chance to trip you up. Pretty obvious some people here have never been around bureaucrats or media.

Sorry naysayers, but it just doesn't pass the common sense test. Just curious why some people are so determined to keep criticizing this project.

They're gunning for June 30th and are nearing 50 percent completion which buddy mentioned. It's up to IO to keep it on time and they're on the hook for any delays. Can't see that happening.

If you naysayers think it'll make you look smart by being able to say "I told you so" after the fact, why don't we all just say it now, the rest of us will acknowledge your genius, and then we can move on.
     
     
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Yeah, that guy at the update looked real panicked. It's always a good idea to hold a non compulsory project update when you're behind schedule just to give people the chance to trip you up. Pretty obvious some people here have never been around bureaucrats or media.

Sorry naysayers, but it just doesn't pass the common sense test. Just curious why some people are so determined to keep criticizing this project.

They're gunning for June 30th and are nearing 50 percent completion which buddy mentioned. It's up to IO to keep it on time and they're on the hook for any delays. Can't see that happening.

If you naysayers think it'll make you look smart by being able to say "I told you so" after the fact, why don't we all just say it now, the rest of us will acknowledge your genius, and then we can move on.
There is also a big contingency budget on this project so if they have to add OT and work 7 days a week to get it done, they probably will
     
     
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There is also a big contingency budget on this project so if they have to add OT and work 7 days a week to get it done, they probably will
$26.6 million to be spent on “soft costs” such as project management, transaction fees and a contingency fund
     
     
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There's quite a few layers of contingencies built into the costs

On the Regina front

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After shivering for three hours in the stands for Sunday's game, some fans might be thinking wistfully about a domed stadium for the future.

On his Tuesday visit with the CJME morning show, Mayor Michael Fougere said he sympathizes with cold fans, he admitted he is still thawing out himself.

He recognized that the cold weather is renewing the questions about why the city won’t be putting a dome on the new stadium. For what seems like the 100th time, the answer is the same - it’s just too much money.

“It’s prohibitively expensive and we’ve got to be realistic here, this will be a spectator domed stadium,” he explained, referring to the preliminary design concept released last September.

The concept design is far from being final, it is simply meant to serve as a guideline while the city waits for bidders.

“The field will be open to the elements but the spectators will be covered, it will be warmer,” Fougere commented.

Fougere roughly estimated the additional cost of building a dome could be anywhere between $50 and $100 million.

“Then there’s the operating cost of heating it over the years,” he noted. “It’s really expensive and would be a burden on taxpayers.”

So Rider fans will just have to keep stocking up on warm green layers for the foreseeable future.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2013, 9:17 PM
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TO2015 posted this on their Facebook page

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Here’s a #TO2015 #sneakpeek of CIBC Hamilton Pan Am Soccer Stadium! #sport #soccer #Hamilton
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 15, 2013, 1:15 AM
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From ticats4life86 at ticats.ca

I'm not sure what the camera is currently pointed at as I have no use for it I can just look out my window.

One thing the camera may be missing is the amount of work that is currently taking place under the east stands. They have the area tarped off and there is a large amount of workers doing work in there at any given time.

A lot of masonry work is also being completed on the external facade as well that the camera probably does no justice in showing.

Trust me folks I was as skeptical as the rest when it comes to the timing of the stadium but from seeing it every day and how much they have progressed, especially in the past few weeks, I think it's safe to say that barring any unforeseen instances we will be enjoying all 9 regular season games there next season.

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What are the big brown rectangular things they are unloading on camera 1?

They are wire mesh panels they embed in the concrete when they pour it to stop cracking. They have been lifting them to the various floors for weeks now. They poured the entire 2nd floor of the east stands in 2 days.
     
     
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Hamilton Mayor Vows New CFL Stadium Will Be Done On Time
The Canadian Press 11/14/2013

HAMILTON, Ont. -- Hamilton's new stadium isn't quite half finished with just seven months before it's scheduled to open, but Pan Am Games CEO Ian Troop and Hamilton Mayor Bob Bratina vow it will be done on time and on budget.

"You bet," Troop told reporters Thursday during a tour of the construction site. "We're right on track."

The CFL's Hamilton Tiger-Cats are slated to move into the $145.7-million state-of-the-art facility on June 30, 2014.

"We started it with that in mind and we're right on track," said Troop, who heads up the organizing committee for the 2015 Pan Am Games.

The stadium, which will host all 32 men's and women's soccer games at the Pan Ams, is being built on a 5.45-hectare parcel of land where the historic Ivor Wynne Stadium once stood. Bratina said if there are things that aren't completed by June, they will be minor and won't threaten the scheduled opening.

"There may be some washrooms that need painting or something like that," Bratina said. "With several months to go and assurances from contractors we're looking good, I'm sure it will be minor cosmetics that may be left over. "But certainly I think by the end of June we'll be playing football and soccer in this stadium."

Hamilton will want to avoid the issues Winnipeg had with its new stadium, which was scheduled to open for the 2012 CFL season but didn't see any football until 2013 due to construction delays.

The Pam Am Games organizing committee says the stadium is more than 46 per cent complete and "progressing on time and on budget." The structural steel frame is roughly 96 per cent done while more than 80 per cent of the high voltage electrical work has been finished.

The committee says pre-cast concrete installation (over structural steel frame ) is 22 per cent done, more than half of the underground mechanical and electrical work is complete, masonry block installation on the west and south sides has begun, steel decks for pedestrian areas are more than 90 per cent finished and foundation work is also complete.

Pre-cast concrete will be complete early in the new year, the organizing committee said, while seating and turf installation will happen in the spring.

The stadium will feature two tiers of seats on both sides of the field with an initial seating capacity of 22,500. But that could expand to 40,000 seats for major events like the Grey Cup. It will meet all the technical requirements of both the CFL and FIFA, soccer's governing body.

The new field has shifted 90 degrees to a north-south axis from Ivor Wynne's east-west format. The move is designed to minimize the effect of the sun on athletes and reduce wind inside the facility.

"You think in terms of the old Ivor Wynne and you come here and start realizing what's being built here is quite an impressive facility," Troop said. "You can see the size and height and the nature of what's going to be here and your mind quickly wanders to what it's going to be like when you've got the championship soccer games during the Pan Am Games."

It will have a seating capacity of roughly 24,000 for Ticats home games and also feature 700 club seats, 400 group sales suites seats, 30 VIP suites, six elevators, larger seats, updated press and broadcasting facilities and concession stands on all levels.

The stadium will be able to host professional and amateur sports competitions as well as cultural events. There will also be a public plaza in the south end.

The federal government is footing $69.3 million of the bill. The city of Hamilton is paying $54.1 million with the province chipping in the remaining $22.3 million.

Bratina understands people doubting the project will finish on time and on budget but said he's sensing a shift in public sentiment regarding the stadium. "Overriding that is actual pride in the building," he said. "I'm hearing less concern and more, 'Wow.'

The stadium is located in a residential section of the city but Bratina says it's a welcome addition to the neighbourhood.

"The neighbours are all excited about it and some of them are even saying their property values have gone up so there's another conversation going on I don't think it's as strongly oriented towards budgeting and time," he said.
     
     
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I really don't understand the "expectation glee" over this thing possibly being finished late. I just don't get it.

Right now, all we have is taking the contractor at their word (46% complete) and Troop adding "ready by June 30" and "We're right on track to deliver"... and those who look at daily progress from the web cams and proclaim their opinions that this will/will not be done on time.

Yeah, it could have been more.
Yeah, it could have been in a different location.
Yeah, it could actually end up being a great place to enjoy a game.
     
     
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^And that about sums it up. Amen.
     
     
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