Millennium Line - Evergreen Extension | Completed

[officedweller]

Thanks!
The second shot gives you an idea how high the guideway will be when it's climbing.

[Millennium2002]

Is it just me, or are the colours of the new lines like always misrepresented after construction is complete? First it happened with the Canada Line suddenly changing from bright red to sky blue, and now a repeat may occur with the Evergreen Line getting cyan from green?

I can't wait to hear complaints from people with disabilities / tourists and newcomers who have trouble telling the lines and colours apart.

[MIPS]

TransLink's graphics department is colorblind.

I'm pretty sure they see this text as orange
and this line in pink.

[officedweller]

North Portal TBM launching pit taking shape:


http://wcs.pbaeng.com/projects/R1_Transit

[amor de cosmos]

Nov. 13, 2013
Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure
Evergreen Line crews beat schedule with innovative construction

PORT MOODY – Evergreen Line construction crews pushed an enormous concrete box under the Barnet Highway and reopened the road to traffic eight hours ahead of schedule over the long weekend.

This was the largest traffic disruption expected on the Evergreen Line project and it is now done.

The work took place over the weekend and Remembrance Day, rather than over 60 nights, which reduced disruptions to the travelling public and area residents. Now that the work is finished, the weekend closure at Barnet Highway and Ioco Road for Nov. 15-17, 2013, is cancelled.

The concrete box was the largest of its kind in North America, weighing about 4,000 tonnes, 15 metres wide, seven metres high and 50 metres long. A row of 30 hydraulic jacks pushed it into position.

The box will contain a portion of the future Evergreen Line Inlet Centre Station platform and guideway. Now crews will be able to build the station with minimal disruption to the road and traffic. The Inlet Centre Station will have two entrances — one on the west side and the other on the east side of the intersection, allowing passengers convenient, safe access from each side of Barnet Highway. This station design responds to the community’s desire to have a station that is not elevated.

http://www2.news.gov.bc.ca/news_releases_2013-2017/2013TRAN0071-001695.htm

[g35]

Can anyone please explain how Lougheed station will work? First couple of pages and Google didn't really explain.

My layman's understanding is there's one platform right now with tracks on either side (west and east) and then they'll put another platform east of that.

So if you're on the west/current platform facing west, you can get a train toward either Waterfront or Coquitlam. If you're on the west/current platform facing east, the trains don't pick anyone up, they just drop passengers off and then they switch/reverse somewhere and come back along the western-most track. And if you're on the east/new platform, you can catch a train to VCC-clark (a train that originated in Coquitlam)

Is this right?

thanks officedweller V

[officedweller]

See post here:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=6131812&postcount=4207

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by amor de cosmos

http://www2.news.gov.bc.ca/news_releases_2013-2017/2013TRAN0071-001695.htm

From the TranBC flickr account:


Construction on the Evergreen Line continues. Crews are inside the concrete box, watching as a section of the Barnet Highway is removed to make room for the box to be pushed into position. The box will contain a portion of the future Evergreen Line Inlet Centre Station platform and guideway. Now crews will be able to build station with minimal disruption to the road and traffic. The Inlet Centre Station will have two entrances —one on the west side and the other on the east side of the intersection, allowing passengers convenient, safe access from each side of Barnet Highway. This station design responds to the community’s desire to have a station that is not elevated.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tranbc/10827592585/in/set-72157632226282626


Construction on the Evergreen Line continues. Over the November long weekend, crews pushed an enormous concrete box under the Barnet Highway and reopened the road to traffic eight hours ahead of schedule over the long weekend. This was the largest traffic disruption expected on the Evergreen Line project and it is now done.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tranbc/10827912093/in/set-72157632226282626/


Over the November long weekend, crews pushed a 4,000 tonne concrete box under the Barnet Highway for the future Inlet Centre Station as part of Evergreen Line project. They finished the work early and reopened the road to traffic eight hours ahead of schedule.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tranbc/10827919633/in/set-72157632226282626/


Crews rebuilt a section of the Barnet Highway before reopening the road to traffic eight hours ahead of schedule. Over the November long weekend, crews pushed an enormous concrete box under the Barnet Highway for the future Inlet Centre Station. This was the largest traffic disruption expected on the Evergreen Line project and it is now done.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tranbc/10827775554/in/set-72157632226282626/

[Zassk]

Originally Posted by g35

So if you're on the west/current platform facing west, you can get a train toward either Waterfront or Coquitlam. If you're on the west/current platform facing east, the trains don't pick anyone up, they just drop passengers off and then they switch/reverse somewhere and come back along the western-most track. And if you're on the east/new platform, you can catch a train to VCC-clark (a train that originated in Coquitlam)

No, it's a little simpler than that. See the diagram posted by officedweller.

On the existing platform facing west, none of the trains that you see approaching will stop at your platform. They will all change tracks to go to the new platform.

On the existing platform facing east, you will see trains from Waterfront arrive on your south side, load/unload, and then head back toward Waterfront again.

On the existing platform facing east, you will also see trains from Coquitlam arrive on your north side, load/unload, and then continue toward VCC-Clark.

On the new platform facing west, you will see trains from VCC-Clark switch tracks twice and arrive on your south side, load/unload, and then continue toward Coquitlam.

[officedweller]

The main thing to remember about Lougheed Station is that each platform is assigned a destination.
All trains at that platform will have the same destination.
The M-Line terminus also facilitates a cross-platform transfer to downtown Vancouver.
The platform assignments work for through-routed Evergreen Line trains and also if they want to through-route M-Line trains
(i.e. if the Expo Line is down they can through-route M-Line trains while maintaining the same platform assignments)

[queetz@home]

Originally Posted by officedweller

From the TranBC flickr account:

So it looks like they essentially just dug the roadway while the Inlet station box is being pushed. It was implied earlier (maybe I just interpreted it that way) that they would punch a hole and insert it. Pretty impressive work nonetheless.

[Olden Retreiver]

Evergreen Line Project officials admit misleading information was presented to the public for 3 years:

http://globalnews.ca/video/966020/evergreen-line-controversy


http://www.thenownews.com/news/anger-at-evergreen-line-plans-1.697758

[Olden Retreiver]

Originally Posted by officedweller

North Portal TBM launching pit taking shape:


http://wcs.pbaeng.com/projects/R1_Transit

Impressive as the TBM launch pit may be, until actual assembly of the machine begins, the more impressive work in this area is actually east of Barnet Highway, not shown by the webcams, where the bridge over Schoolhouse Creek is nearly complete and columns are being erected where the guideway will go over the Andres Wines and Reichold Chemicals sites. I took a few photos of the bridge, columns, and spawning salmon yesterday with my iPhone yesterday, and will post when I figure out how to get them online

[nname]

I thought they always had the same map, but just updated to add Lincoln Station?

Page 3 of this document in 2009 had the map they were using at the front page, which is also the same one for every document they had since then. The legend says "Ground Level *Except where required to cross existing roads, CPR tracks and creeks". The alignment description below says "Continuing east, the line will cross the CPR tracks just before Ioco Station." Although they didn't draw the short segment explicitly as elevated on the map, I thought this would be more than clear enough that the line would not be at ground level just before Ioco (Inlet Centre) station if anyone bother to read the legend?

[queetz@home]

Originally Posted by nname

I thought they always had the same map, but just updated to add Lincoln Station?

Page 3 of this document in 2009 had the map they were using at the front page, which is also the same one for every document they had since then. The legend says "Ground Level *Except where required to cross existing roads, CPR tracks and creeks". The alignment description below says "Continuing east, the line will cross the CPR tracks just before Ioco Station." Although they didn't draw the short segment explicitly as elevated on the map, I thought this would be more than clear enough that the line would not be at ground level just before Ioco (Inlet Centre) station if anyone bother to read the legend?

No kidding, eh? Ultimately, these people, especially those who claimed they did due dilligence, clearly did not. They are just out there to make noise, possibly to get money that they clearly do not deserve.

People do this all the time, and to be honest, I am disappointed with the Evergreen Line team for caving in with an "apology", when clearly none was needed. But I guess they had too because no matter how hard you try to accomodate, as we clearly learned from The Exchange fiasco in downtown Vancouver, "the NIMBYs are always right"...

Here is another indication of the line being elevated in that area...I recall this video was posted years ago too....

[Olden Retreiver]

Originally Posted by queetz@home

No kidding, eh? Ultimately, these people, especially those who claimed they did due dilligence, clearly did not. They are just out there to make noise, possibly to get money that they clearly do not deserve.

People do this all the time, and to be honest, I am disappointed with the Evergreen Line team for caving in with an "apology", when clearly none was needed. But I guess they had too because no matter how hard you try to accomodate, as we clearly learned from The Exchange fiasco in downtown Vancouver, "the NIMBYs are always right"...

Here is another indication of the line being elevated in that area...I recall this video was posted years ago too....

The "asterisk map" (which has become so prevalent in EGL materials even though I never really noticed it until this Klahanie thing blew up 3 weeks ago) has always been misleading because it implies the line will be elevated only where it needs to hop across the CPR tracks. In reality, the elevated segment is now 650 metres long.

As I said before, I have limited sympathy for the Klahanie residents, because better, more accurate maps were indeed available at the main phase of public consultations in 2009. What EGL officials failed to do was to maintain a high level of accuracy and effectiveness in their communications.

By the way, the elevated portion shown in that Global TV video is entirely east of the Klahanie townhomes.

Pretty much my final comment on this is that EGL communications have been "weak" at best (in the understated tones of Mayor Mike Clay) or shoddy and unprofessional at worst.

[queetz@home]

Originally Posted by Olden Retreiver

The "asterisk map" (which has become so prevalent in EGL materials even though I never really noticed it until this Klahanie thing blew up 3 weeks ago) has always been misleading because it implies the line will be elevated only where it needs to hop across the CPR tracks.

That is ultimately the issue here....not noticing. If I was directly affected by this project, I would have gone through every inch of every document with a fine tooth comb and follow up, and follow up, and follow up again, until I know for sure, without shadow of a doubt, not even God himself could deny, that I will not be impacted negatively.

But at the end of the day, the fact that these people were "surprised" showed they simply DID NOT exert the effort needed to ensure they are satisfied, and now they are looking for a scapegoat, such as renderings and map, to justify their inept handling of their situation.

The communication issue is certainly not "weak" for those of us who have been obsessively following this project for the last two decades, that's for sure. And people should never assuming anything such as short hops and all....funny a quote from a bad Steven Segal movie says it best..

Assumption is the mother of all F*CK UPS!

[Olden Retreiver]

Perhaps not brilliant photos (taken yesterday afternoon with my iPhone), but these should show followers here some things you would otherwise not see.

Bridge over Schoolhouse Creek immediately east of Barnet Highway. Looking east:



I don't know if these huge steel pipes become part of the structural columns or if they are just part of the ground preparation. Looking west:



There are salmon spawning under the bridge. Looking south:

[Olden Retreiver]

Key point on the communication at Klahanie is that EGL had more detailed and accurate information in 2009, but reverted to easily misinterpreted materials.

So, perhaps the communication is not "weak" for anyone who obsessively followed the project for two decades. But in a way I envy anyone who, in their personal or professional lives, never has to deal with the real world or the humans who inhabit it.

And I correct myself on one point. Shoddy or unprofessional work would not be the worst causes of misunderstandings. Deliberate intent would obviously be worse.

[jsbertram]

Looking at the drawings I got from the Ministry website, the new Skytrain tracks are at ground level running in an E-W alignment running parallel along (and between) Golden Spike Lane and the re-aligned CPR tracks. The Skytrain 'flyover' starts east of Moray St (behind KoKo's) and hops over the CPR mainline and into the railway Wye 'forest' north of the mainline tracks.

The Skytrain alignment stays on the north side of the CPR mainline, roughly parallel with the CPR tracks, and it appears to remain elevated to get over the eastern track of the Wye. East of this point, the Skytrain tracks become ground level, and the ground level elevation decreases to get under the Barnet Hwy bridge where the new Ioco station is located.

If anyone should be p!ssed, it should be the unlucky people living in the Sonrisa development, since they only have a narrowed Golden Spike Lane and a 10 foot high noise wall / security fence separating them from the new Skytrain tracks.


btw: there are several references to 'future CPR track', which I'm interpreting as the long-time wished-for third track on the north side of the CPR mainline.
shhhh. don't tell the nimbys