SAN FRANCISCO | Projects: Under Construction, Approved, and Proposed

[simms3_redux]

Originally Posted by fimiak

Don't forget to vote. http://www.sfelections.org/tools/pollsite/

YES on B and YES on C.

I forgot to vote! No time

I did get into a debate with a REPUBLICAN coworker who was againt B&C and thought it ridiculous they would even attempt to raise the height limit. I totally assumed because of his party affiliation and because he and I both work for a development/real estate investor and focus on SF that we would BOTH find common ground and be Yes votes on B&C. I guess you can never judge a book by its cover. I do hope everyone voted yes on A though as well!

Results

http://sfelections.org/results/20131105/

A passed 69:31

B failed 62:38

C failed 67:33


AHHHHHHHHHH, more fuel for the rich assholes in the Four Seasons to take advantage of overly ideological and under-informed SF voters to get them to vote down THAT development and others like it. Over principal, I may move myself away from the Bay sooner than I realized. It didn't take me long to move away from Atlanta after those idiot voters voted down more transit in favor of maintaining the congested status quo (of course still complaining about the traffic). Um reason and logic people? I can't hear another person complain about SF housing prices...WE the voteres are creating the housing crisis, NOT developers. LoL.

[Jerry of San Fran]

brady&market - no, not me that did the post of 100 Van Ness Ave. Who is that pretender? :>) But I am glad to see someone else posting online.

[NOPA]

"3) Did they seriously just narrow down Dolores to 1 Lane??"

Yes but just for the One block until it hits 14th street. This isn't a really busy section so it doesn't matter to me.

[mt_climber13]

Originally Posted by NOPA

"3) Did they seriously just narrow down Dolores to 1 Lane??"

Yes but just for the One block until it hits 14th street. This isn't a really busy section so it doesn't matter to me.

Well it isn't at the moment, but now that there is a huge residential building and Whole Foods here.. what were they thinking? Look at the traffic back up at Whole Foods on Franklin and California from all the cars trying to get into the garage there, and that's a 3 lane one way street that is otherwise not very congested, except rush hours. If the garage is on 14th street then it might work out.. But then 14th is going to get crazy backed up and it has typically been a very smooth sailing street traffic wise.

[tall/awkward]

To be honest, I had no strong feelings about 8 Washington one way or the other. I'm much more interested in the Mexican Museum building, which makes way more sense to me. I'm really hoping that specific spoiled rich minority doesn't win over a high-rise near all that public transportation with a shiny new museum and restored historic building to boot. It would feel much worse to me if that is shot down.

[Jerry of San Fran]

Trinity Place - I head some loud pounding today, went to my balcony to see where it is coming from and discovered that concrete is being broken at the Trinity Place recent tear down - I assume the next (and last?) phase is happening now.

Whole Foods, Dolores & Market Sts. - visited the store today - nice - looks like their other stores to me. Nice that the street car line is across the street.

8 Washington - It may be very democratic, but I don't think that it is a a good idea to have building policy decided at the ballot box. I've lived through a lot of turmoil since 1969 when I moved to San Francisco and I wonder if we are getting into another era conflict?

[pizzaguy]

Originally Posted by Jerry of San Fran

8 Washington - It may be very democratic, but I don't think that it is a a good idea to have building policy decided at the ballot box. I've lived through a lot of turmoil since 1969 when I moved to San Francisco and I wonder if we are getting into another era conflict?

Blood will be spilled if the Warriors arena doesn't get built.

[fimiak]

Originally Posted by Jerry of San Fran

Trinity Place - I head some loud pounding today, went to my balcony to see where it is coming from and discovered that concrete is being broken at the Trinity Place recent tear down - I assume the next (and last?) phase is happening now.

Whole Foods, Dolores & Market Sts. - visited the store today - nice - looks like their other stores to me. Nice that the street car line is across the street.

8 Washington - It may be very democratic, but I don't think that it is a a good idea to have building policy decided at the ballot box. I've lived through a lot of turmoil since 1969 when I moved to San Francisco and I wonder if we are getting into another era conflict?

Trinity has 4 Phases. I think the phase that abuts Market st. is the final phase.

The vote has given me new zeal for SF development, I thought things were changing, but the fact that buildings are put to polls with almost no real knowledge provided to the public says a lot about how ridiculous the entire episode has been. Votes like what happened Tuesday are the extreme exception I hope.

Spying on Twitter.




The 4S camera leaves a lot to be desired from low light shots.

[slock]

Curbed is reporting that 299 Fremont and 340 Fremont have broken ground.

Pictures at the link: http://sf.curbed.com/archives/2013/11/07...street_rising_rincon_hill_descending.php

[simms3_redux]

Just so we can clear the air about units under development right now:



Not counting some notably close to possibly happening developments such as 399 Frement, and of course neighborhood activists can still overturn a few of these that haven't laid a shovel yet. Also, not counting all of the countless 10-30 unit infill developments all over the place.

Hopefully there IS some rental relief coming! Surprising lack of new condos under construction and I'm not counting on Millennium Partners' proposal to come to fruition after what just happened at 8 Washington.

I think SF's mid/high-rise multifamily development cycle is only exceeded by the giants (NYC, Toronto, Chicago) and only matched/relatively on par by Miami, Seattle, Vancouver, Calgary, and Boston. Same goes for office development except take out Miami and Vancouver as players, maybe Seattle too since it's all Amazon and the sheer amount of new office buildings isn't the same.

[minesweeper]

^ That's an impressive list.

A couple other medium-sized projects underway are 2655 Bush (84 units, 2015), 255 Broadway (75 BMR units, 2015), and 1450 Franklin (69 condos, 2015?).

[coyotetrickster]

Originally Posted by simms3_redux

Just so we can clear the air about units under development right now:



Not counting some notably close to possibly happening developments such as 399 Frement, and of course neighborhood activists can still overturn a few of these that haven't laid a shovel yet. Also, not counting all of the countless 10-30 unit infill developments all over the place.

Hopefully there IS some rental relief coming! Surprising lack of new condos under construction and I'm not counting on Millennium Partners' proposal to come to fruition after what just happened at 8 Washington.

I think SF's mid/high-rise multifamily development cycle is only exceeded by the giants (NYC, Toronto, Chicago) and only matched/relatively on par by Miami, Seattle, Vancouver, Calgary, and Boston. Same goes for office development except take out Miami and Vancouver as players, maybe Seattle too since it's all Amazon and the sheer amount of new office buildings isn't the same.

If Millennium Partners caves on the height exemption, the 4 Season douchebags will not go the ballot route. This is one time to fold and figure out how to make the tower work at 350, the approved height.

[mt_climber13]

Just have builders build to the legal heights. Don't grant exemptions and fiascos like 8 Washington won't happen.

If we want taller buildings, whatever bureaucracy responsible should change the zoning. Simple. Exemptions should not be granted IMO.

[tech12]

Originally Posted by wakamesalad

Just have builders build to the legal heights. Don't grant exemptions and fiascos like 8 Washington won't happen.

If we want taller buildings, whatever bureaucracy responsible should change the zoning. Simple. Exemptions should not be granted IMO.

But wouldn't NIMBY's just try to change the zoning back, saying it's out of character or something?

The Mexican museum tower should just have half of the units be affordable. I think the gullible NIMBY army that the wealthy NIMBY commanders like to rile up wouldn't be nearly as supportive of killing a project if it had a large affordable element to it. The idea that 8 Washington should be affordable housing instead of luxury condos was one of the main reasons a lot of people did oppose 8 Washington (not the wealthy people behind the ballot measure of course, as they just wanted to preserve views and property values, but that was a main argument of many of the people who voted no).

And who's to say that if the Mexican Museum tower gets built at 350', that NIMBYs wouldn't try and pass that same anti-development ballot measure anyways?

Dammit, I thought we were past this NIMBY bs. And the sad part is, if everyone in SF who is able to vote actually bothered to, I think it's reasonable to say that B&C might actually have passed. Only 25% of SF's voters actually voted, and of them 60% voted against B&C...and it seems like people are always more likely to vote (or comment on things, etc) when they're extra angry rather than supportive or ambivalent.

[BushMan]

Another nice little piece of infill on Sutter St. in my neighborhood in the Tendernob:

http://sf.curbed.com/archives/2013/11/07/21_new_units_coming_to_sutter_street_in_the_tendernob.php

This will be a great follow-up to Blanc which is just coming on line a couple of blocks down at Sutter and Larkin. So happy to see these crappy parking lots going away!

[JWS]

Originally Posted by slock

Curbed is reporting that 299 Fremont and 340 Fremont have broken ground.

Pictures at the link: http://sf.curbed.com/archives/2013/11/07...street_rising_rincon_hill_descending.php

Exciting! The one I'm most anxious to see movement on is 399 Fremont, but these two will keep me occupied!

[Jerry of San Fran]

Today the last windows were installed on the north and west sides of the building. I like the new building in my view much, though I find the south face to be too busy.

TIP: I have been using Flickr's new beta version for a few weeks now, and tonight I could not find the HTML for the picture and had to revert back to the current version. Part of the beta experience are evolving changes to the site.


AVA, 55 Ninth Street - 2013_11_08 by Apollo's Light, on Flickr

[Jerry of San Fran]

Today the sculpture is being installed on the new AVA apartment building. It looks very much like the artist rendering I saw last year. I like it very much & look forward to seeing it completed.

[fflint]

^AVA is looking good.

[Jerry of San Fran]

More stunning news. I see on Socket Site that the old CAAA building is slated to be demolished to make way for a development by the Emerald Fund, from Van Ness to Polk St. fronting Hayes! The new building will be 12 stories, 120 feet tall. The old AAA building was not a looker at all before it was clad in (I think) the 1960s to make it look modern, but it did have a very beautiful lobby. My neighborhood is like a nuclear reactor melting - so much change in so short a time.