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Old Posted Nov 3, 2013, 6:56 AM
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Lazy One will be a temporary store at Champlain, similar to Hickory Farms during the holiday season.

As for how the mall works, well... when your lease is up they can offer anything that they want or offer you nothing at all...
Take it or leave it scenarios really, you are presented with a current or new location and lease agreement, sometimes tenants take and sometimes they don't.
You likely pay more for a more desirable location one would assume. It all comes down to negotiations.
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You likely pay more for a more desirable location one would assume. It all comes down to negotiations.
Location and size, but often more than size, location is $$$. It's not just who can or wants to pay more. They (CF) in this case, place tenants where they want them and it's not the other way around. It's almost like a chess game, the pieces don't move around by themselves nor do they choose where they go. Landlords decide who comes and where they go.
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Location and size, but often more than size, location is $$$. It's not just who can or wants to pay more. They (CF) in this case, place tenants where they want them and it's not the other way around. It's almost like a chess game, the pieces don't move around by themselves nor do they choose where they go. Landlords decide who comes and where they go.
Of course, in a less desirable shopping centre, the landlord would be grateful to have any tenant anywhere in the mall that they would want to go.

The possibility of Victoria's Secret/Pink coming to Champlain would give CF considerable leverage in booting existing tenants to the nether regions of the mall to make room for a landmark retailer…….
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Time for a "Men's Mall" ?

Well, as the "feminization" of Champlain Place continues at a steady pace, I'm starting to wonder if perhaps it's time for a new concept in the retail sector.

How about a "Men's Mall"? i.e. A mall where ALL the stores are geared towards men.

You could have big American retailers setup shop such as Destination XL for the tall & husky crowd (sorry, Mr Big & Tall sells 🞵🞵🞵🞵 that falls apart a few months after you buy it), Nike Store (for those of us who think Foot Locker's prices make about as much sense as eating lead paint chips), an Apple Store (Jump+ is nice, but it'd be cool to have the real deal), BestBuy (I'm getting sick of Steelbooks as FutureShop exclusives), Spencer's Gifts (if it really is coming to Champlain Place, I doubt the women will bother shopping there), Teavana (for those who prefer Starbucks teas vs. coffee), Denny's, IHOP, Chili's & other American restos we've never seen East of Toronto/Montreal, we could even have Mr. Imbeault's Baton Rouge

This could all be anchored around the new Bass Pro Shop which is scheduled to open (or is it scheduled to start being built?) in 2015. It just seems that with loads of women-centric stores popping up in Champlain (I doubt men will give a 🞵🞵🞵🞵 about perfume, bath, crystal, chocolate & women's clothing/shoe/accessory stores) I just think it's time for men to get the same level of retail respect. I understand why Champlain is going to the girls (it's all about the $$$) but the male population is pretty much being shut out as a result.

With the announcement that Tanger Outlets were rumored to be looking at Canadian expansion, I gained some form of hope until I realized that ultimately, it too, will likely be geared towards women's stores.

That's my 5 cents, although I realize I'm part of the minority here who probably think this way. Just fedup of having to travel 4 to 8 hours to find the stores/restos I really want.
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Ruby Thai has opened in the food court at Champlain Place. It is distinctively upscale in appearance compared to some of it's neighbours in the food court and the aroma wafting from the counter was very enticing!
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Ruby Thai has opened in the food court at Champlain Place. It is distinctively upscale in appearance compared to some of it's neighbours in the food court and the aroma wafting from the counter was very enticing!
Indeed, yum! I prefer the cooked to order selection, my entrée was fresh and hot, my favorite place by far in the food court. Quite large portions could be shared for sure.
As for Manchu Wok and Teriyaki; lines were inexistent, but that's normal at this point. I'm sure they are loving their new neighbor; .
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Kfc

I just heard the Bucket of Yuck (Aka: KFC) shut the doors in Riverview. I guess the doubled heart attack rate in Riverview from the "Double Down" sandwich put the nail in the coffin...ahem...
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I just heard the Bucket of Yuck (Aka: KFC) shut the doors in Riverview. I guess the doubled heart attack rate in Riverview from the "Double Down" sandwich put the nail in the coffin...ahem...
Closed closed, or closed for renovations?
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Closed closed, or closed for renovations?

From what I hear, closed closed. Guy from Woodstock own all in Atlantic Canada. He's been dropping the dead weight...
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From what I hear, closed closed. Guy from Woodstock own all in Atlantic Canada. He's been dropping the dead weight...
The one in dieppe is saying it is closed for renovations also.
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I suspect he's reviewing all the KFC's he owns. The ones that are doing well, will get rebuilt and/or moved to a new location (like the one on Prospect in Freddy, as well as the one in Woodstock itself). The ones that aren't doing well will just get shuttered.

I'm still waiting to see what might happen to the one on Main Street in Freddy.
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The one in dieppe is saying it is closed for renovations also.
In the T&T today, the Riverview plucking palace is definitely toast.

The Dieppe KFC however is just under renovation however and will reopen.

I wonder what this means for the soon-to-be-built Champlain Plaza phase 2. The site plans for this show a standalone KFC in the parking lot and this is just across the street from the current location......
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Same thing happened here in SJ, the West Side location is closed and being renovated as we speak, the East Side location [which is also a Taco Bell] recently re-opened after a similar reno, but the KV location has closed with no definitive sign of ever re-opening. The only one I'm not sure of is the North End franchise, which has been doing very well historically, so I can't see it shutting down any time soon.
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I wonder what this means for the soon-to-be-built Champlain Plaza phase 2. The site plans for this show a standalone KFC in the parking lot and this is just across the street from the current location......
Not to mention the one in the mall. Champlain & Paul St, aka KFC Corner!?
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Special meeting called for the Moncton PAC on November 5th to deal with a request for variance at Mapleton Crossing to allow for an extension of Portico Court

http://www.moncton.ca/Assets/Government+...AC+Agendas/November+6+Special+Agenda.pdf

The interesting thing is that the enclosed document shows a first retail tenant in this development:



The store looks fairly large, with substantial parking. It backs directly on the TCH and is adjacent to the eastbound offramp from the TCH. It is also adjacent to Mapleton Park.

No idea what this store will be. It would however be a very attractive location for Bass Pro Shop, and the footprint may be large enough (Bass Pro is supposed to be 110,000 sq ft). The lot is 2.578 ha (277,500 sq ft), so the store would fit. When Whaler said we were getting the store, he mentioned it would be going off of Mapleton Road. This location would be appealing for Bass Pro, especially with the parkland in behind……..

Let the speculation begin!
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When Whaler said we were getting the store, he mentioned it would be going off of Mapleton Road. This location would be appealing for Bass Pro, especially with the parkland in behind……..
Cabela's was the store that Whaler mentioned would be going on Mapleton. Any one of those two retailers would be quite the catalyst for Mapleton Crossing. Even though Elmwood would also be a good location, I think Mapleton is probably still the best spot in the city for such a store.
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Cabela's was the store that Whaler mentioned would be going on Mapleton. Any one of those two retailers would be quite the catalyst for Mapleton Crossing. Even though Elmwood would also be a good location, I think Mapleton is probably still the best spot in the city for such a store.
Whaler PM'ed me and apologized. He had been part of a group in contact with both Bass Pro and Cabela's. When he made his announcement of the store coming to Moncton, he just got the two mixed up.

If Bass Pro goes to Mapleton Crossing (like I now suspect), then the remaining lots in this development will definitely become hot commodities.
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from today's T&T
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Plaza Blvd. bus hub temporary
Friday, November 08, 2013
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By: Eric Lewis

The City of Moncton's transportation co-ordinator says options for a new transit hub for Codiac Transpo in the city's north end were limited.

After Target Canada asked the public transit service to remove its longtime stopping point in front of the former Zellers in the Northwest Centre, the bus service had to look for a new transfer point.

In the busy shopping area, options were few, said Stephane Thibodeau.

Ryan Street off Mountain Road was used initially, but that became cumbersome with buses needing to turn around on the street, the transportation co-ordinator said.

Thibodeau worked with Codiac Transpo staff to come up with a solution. They needed to find a place that would be near the former transit hub but one that wouldn't impact traffic too heavily.

Ultimately, they decided to create a temporary transit hub on Plaza Boulevard near the entrance to Walmart. Part of the outside westbound lane is now off limits to traffic so buses can stop and passengers can get on and off.

Thibodeau said the committee considered Mountain Road and Mapleton Road but those roads see much more traffic than Plaza each day, at 30,000 and 20,000 vehicles respectively. Plaza averages about 11,000 vehicles per day.

'It's very central to that shopping area … and also, today, the bus stop can be accommodated on that street because people think it is busy, but it's not a very high-traffic roadway,' he said.

Thibodeau stressed that the current setup is only temporary.

'It's temporarily there until we can further review how we can make it better on Plaza Boulevard and give us the opportunity to give a business case with respect to doing some modifications or expand on Plaza Boulevard where we can provide a more permanent (bus stop), if that's the location that we deem fit,' he said.

Thibodeau hopes to have a plan ready for Moncton council by summer of next year. A permanent transit hub on Plaza could see the creation of proper lay-bys on each side of the road with improved bus shelters, he said. But again, that's only if Plaza is determined to be the best spot. A lay-by is a cut-in section of road only open to buses for temporary stops. They can be found next to Highfield Square on Main Street.

Thibodeau said the temporary location will be monitored over the winter months, particularly during the busy shopping season.

The temporary stop opened last Saturday and Thibodeau said it hasn't created problems so far.

'It hasn't been too, too bad,' he said. 'It's actually working well. The motorists just need to pay attention. We have signs there telling them that the roads ends and you have to go into the inside lane.' Marie-Claire Pierce, senior transit planner for Codiac Transpo, said in October that the bus service was forced to move from the former Zellers location once Target took it over.

'We've had conversations with Target and it was understood that it's not something that they do at all their Target stores,' she told the Times & Transcript. 'So from what I understand, they have a guideline or a policy around how the front of their store looks and rightfully so.'
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The bus stop in front of Zellers was always a hazard and an annoyance (bus fumes, people smoking, the noise and the need for customers to ''sprint'' in front of buses while going inside or leaving the store, I hated it! Good riddance!
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Champlain Place News:

- The relocated Bluenotes store is now open next to Eddie Bauer.
- The Lazy One temporary store in the old Bizou location is now open.
- There is a temporary Go! Toys and Games store in the old Laura Secord location.
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