SAN DIEGO | Boom Rundown, Vol. 2 - Page 412

SDCAL · #**8221** Posted **Oct 26, 2013, 2:05 AM**

This is out of date news, but don't think anyone reported it here.

San Diego, as of this past June, FINALLY has a direct flight to Miami.

This will really help link us to the Caribbean and Latin America.

http://sdbj.com/news/2013/mar/04/american-airlines-debut-direct-local-flights-miami/

tyleraf · #**8222** Posted **Oct 26, 2013, 2:28 AM**

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I know others may disagree because it would mean this site remains with those decaying military buildings longer, but I'm hoping NBC gets totally shot down and it's put out for bid so we can get a better, more dynamic design.

It's such prime waterfront property and Manchester's plan is mediocre. Yes, it's of course better than what's there, but it could be so much better for that iconic site.

What's the deal with that land anyway? Is it owned by Manchester or by the city or by the military?

If the commission rejects it then what happens, I wonder. Does Manchester try to improve the plan or does it open up to other developers?

Unfortunately Manchester has a 99 year lease so unless something crazy happens, we are stuck with Manchester. So it's better sooner than later. Btw the land is owned by the Navy. There is also the possibility that the base could be shut down which would change the situation.

mello · #**8223** Posted **Oct 28, 2013, 3:58 AM**

Was just down in Chula Vista today and the amount of flat cleared land next to the bay is astounding! There is so much potential to go vertical and create an awesome environment there. Also tons of vacant land east of the 5 in West CV as well, big plots just sitting there not sure why all of the focus is way out east of the 805 or in East Lake when tons of coastal land is sitting available.

tyleraf · #**8224** Posted **Oct 28, 2013, 4:09 AM**

Here is the photo of the cancelled Marriott tower.

spoonman · #**8225** Posted **Oct 28, 2013, 2:50 PM**

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Was just down in Chula Vista today and the amount of flat cleared land next to the bay is astounding! There is so much potential to go vertical and create an awesome environment there. Also tons of vacant land east of the 5 in West CV as well, big plots just sitting there not sure why all of the focus is way out east of the 805 or in East Lake when tons of coastal land is sitting available.

What area are you thinking of Mello? Chula Vista is pretty tightly packed east of the 5. West of the 5 of course is a different story due to brownfields, parks, etc.

S.DviaPhilly · #**8226** Posted **Oct 28, 2013, 6:59 PM**

Was in a unit at Parkloft and snapped this shot of the Sempra Construction/Demo...

spoonman · #**8227** Posted **Oct 28, 2013, 7:15 PM**

I was down in that area this last weekend, and it seems that the street level activity in East Village has really improved.

There seem to be a lot more restaurants, shops, dry cleaners, and other business that have moved into the street level spaces, making the area feel much less sterile than in recent years.

The weak link in the area seemed to be near the library. Ballpark Village should definitely solve that.

Bertrice · #**8228** Posted **Oct 28, 2013, 7:21 PM**

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Was in a unit at Parkloft and snapped this shot of the Sempra Construction/Demo...

is that building on the right staying or going?

tyleraf · #**8229** Posted **Oct 28, 2013, 7:54 PM**

Bertrice: That building is staying

Leo the Dog · #**8230** Posted **Oct 29, 2013, 4:37 PM**

Hey guys, does anyone know what happened to the new luxury brand Marriott hotel going up in IB? It's 90% complete, supposed to open last fall.

spoonman · #**8231** Posted **Oct 29, 2013, 8:19 PM**

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Hey guys, does anyone know what happened to the new luxury brand Marriott hotel going up in IB? It's 90% complete, supposed to open last fall.

The name of the hotel is "Pier South". I believe it is opening by the end of this year. Cohn Group will run one of the restaurants.

Here is the website, and the latest news story.

http://imperialbeach.patch.com/groups/ib-taking-pictures/p/pier-south--sea-180-opening-soon

http://imperialbeach.patch.com/groups/business-news/p/big-lines-form-at-pier-south-job-fair-sea-180

http://piersouthresort.com/

mello · #**8232** Posted **Oct 29, 2013, 11:25 PM**

Spoonman: Down off of Main and Palomar I have noticed tons of empty lots ripe for infill projects and there are tons of weird scrap yards and such that could be consolidated and rezoned for residential. It is such a weird mishmash of old crappy 70's commercial developments in that area too that it could really use a complete rework.

Western Chula Vista just has a lot of infill potential in my opinion, maybe even some of those crappy motels on Broadway which I'm sure don't have great vacancy rates could be torn down and turned in to 5 to 7 floor residential projects.

spoonman · #**8233** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 2:36 AM**

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Spoonman: Down off of Main and Palomar I have noticed tons of empty lots ripe for infill projects and there are tons of weird scrap yards and such that could be consolidated and rezoned for residential. It is such a weird mishmash of old crappy 70's commercial developments in that area too that it could really use a complete rework.

Western Chula Vista just has a lot of infill potential in my opinion, maybe even some of those crappy motels on Broadway which I'm sure don't have great vacancy rates could be torn down and turned in to 5 to 7 floor residential projects.

It would be great to see development pick-up in the South Bay area. The last available greenfield land in Otay is nearly built-out, and with the activity along the border continuing to heat up, I expect the San Diego metro region to focus much more on South Bay, than in the past.

For those that don't know, there have been some big developments down there recently.

1. The cross-border terminal is under construction. The cross border terminal will allows U.S. residents access to a significant amount of additional flights throughout Mexico, and other destinations. Travelers check-in in a terminal on the US side of the border, and cross into Tijuana Int'l via a sky bridge.

These additional airport connections (in addition to those at SAN) are supposed to enhance the growth of Tijuana factories coupled with SD (Otay Mesa) distribution centers.

2. To foster this growth, the Feds are reconstructing the San Ysidro border crossing (non-commercial), and building a new commercial crossing (in addition to Otay) east of the Otay Mesa crossing, for a total of 3 border crossings. As many know, the San Ysidro crossing is the busiest land crossing in the world.

3. Recently the 905 freeway extension was completed (in addition to the 125 tollway). The 905 stretches from the 5, crossing the 805, to the 125. The addition was from 805 to 125. Once the additional border crossing is completed, the 905 will extend further east to this new, third, border crossing.

4. Chula Vista Bayfront project. I believe this will fuel additional high-rise growth in the area.

5. Otay Lakes area is building a large scale development with 1000's of residences, and high-tech offices. In the "near" future, there is also a plan to build a major university for the South Bay area.

TransAustin · #**8234** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 2:57 AM**

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5. Otay Lakes area is building a large scale development with 1000's of residences, and high-tech offices. In the "near" future, there is also a plan to build a major university for the South Bay area.

Can you share the source for this one? I live in Eastlake so this would be pretty awesome. Thanks.

tyleraf · #**8235** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 3:15 AM**

Here is an old article on the possibility of a CSU Chula Vista. I've heard some other mentions of it but this is the most recent article. Unfortunately I think the bill was vetoed. http://www.kpbs.org/news/2009/sep/28/hopes-csu-chula-vista-back-again/

tyleraf · #**8236** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 3:24 AM**

La jolla centre 3 broke ground today! http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/oct/29/irvine-jolla-centre-construction/ This will be great for UTC.

mello · #**8237** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 3:26 AM**

Spoonman: There is still quite a bit of "greenfield" open space left South of Olympic Parkway heading South East towards Donovan Prison. Also those hills just north of the border on the east side of 5 are a huge open space area (not sure what it is zoned for). I would say there is still easily 5000 acres of relatively flat land not yet built on down in the far South East corner of Chula Vista/San Ysidro.

I don't know what kind of buffers are needed from the border or the prison and industrial areas/Brown Field etc. And the land is not completely flat but looks like it could be graded without much effort.

--- Does the 905 actually connect with the 125 or would you have to get off and take surface streets. Google maps doesn't show the 905 yet it is still just yellow lines

And it followed its own route I thought it would replace Otay Mesa Road but it is actually south of there.

spoonman · #**8238** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 4:14 AM**

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Can you share the source for this one? I live in Eastlake so this would be pretty awesome. Thanks.

According to this article from last year, the land for the university has been acquired.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/Jul/18/survey-says-build-new-south-bay-university/

SDfan · #**8239** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 4:24 AM**

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La jolla centre 3 broke ground today! http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/oct/29/irvine-jolla-centre-construction/ This will be great for UTC.

UTC: A Sea of Mid-Rise Glass Boxes

SDfan · #**8240** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 4:26 AM**

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3. Recently the 905 freeway extension was completed (in addition to the 125 tollway). The 905 stretches from the 5, crossing the 805, to the 125. The addition was from 805 to 125. Once the additional border crossing is completed, the 905 will extend further east to this new, third, border crossing.

I had read years ago that the 905 would be turned into an interstate eventually. Anyone familiar with this?