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Old Posted Oct 22, 2013, 8:47 PM
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Better yet, bulldoze the Sears at North Hill and put it on the east side of that site. Good road access, transit on your doorstep and enough room to add in a hotel or two as well.
This is actually a fantastic idea, except for 2 things:

1. Locals would be up in arms about it. This is pretty close to the McMahon NIMBYs, remember. I can't think of any recent situation where someone proposed a sports complex in a residential area, that wasn't met by insane opposition.

2. The LRT stations there are nowhere near adequate for a hockey game. You'd have to close down 14th Ave just to deal with the crowds that would mill about everywhere. But yeah, given a radical alteration to the community, it could work.

Plus, it gets rid of that horrible Sears.
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2013, 9:10 PM
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Plus, it gets rid of that horrible Sears.
Based on recent performance, I think Sears is getting rid of itself rather nicely...
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2013, 10:02 PM
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Consider the the Flames owners are not just making a new arena. By the smoke that's been blowing, it seems they're making a new arena, plus a new football stadium, plus more. (Commercial projects such as hotels, conventions, ect.) It's a massive district project they're undertaking here. Firepark easily has the space to do this, but the economic return may not be justifiable compared to doing in in the heart of the city, which is downtown. This complex is a given to be located in the west village (most likely) or east village.
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2013, 10:47 PM
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No chance there's enough room in the East Village for the arena and all that they're planning on building given the East Village master plan.

West Village for sure. Excited for this to get announced.
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2013, 11:46 PM
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Did anyone ever discuss building the arena/ stadium/ over the tracks? With a few levels of parking underground and a few retail/ office above ground facing the streets? Maybe Having multiple entrances and exits to each underground parkade? Might make for a killer canyon look if done right, and would be very central with multiple ctrain stations only a few blocks away.
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Seattle has their convention center built over Interstate 5 (all 8 lanes and the medium)! Target Field & parking ramp in Minneapolis is partially built over I-394..... So it can be done! Both of those expanses are much, much wider than the CP tracks.
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2013, 8:38 PM
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Did anyone ever discuss building the arena/ stadium/ over the tracks? With a few levels of parking underground and a few retail/ office above ground facing the streets? Maybe Having multiple entrances and exits to each underground parkade? Might make for a killer canyon look if done right, and would be very central with multiple ctrain stations only a few blocks away.
I hate to think this way but would putting an arena over top of train tracks be a security risk? Consider the devestation of Lac Megantic with only a few cars exploding. We have trains full of diluent running through downtown, I wouldn't think having 19,000 people sitting on top of that would be a good idea.
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2013, 10:59 PM
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I hate to think this way but would putting an arena over top of train tracks be a security risk? Consider the devestation of Lac Megantic with only a few cars exploding. We have trains full of diluent running through downtown, I wouldn't think having 19,000 people sitting on top of that would be a good idea.
People keep bringing this suggestion of building x (convention centre, Greenway, etc.) over the tracks, one CP won't let it happened and have said as much in the past, and two see above the safety/security risk would be huge.
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2013, 1:36 AM
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Yeah a possible catastrophe would be a big issue. Would be a great use of that space tho.
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2013, 6:16 AM
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If something that catastrophic happened (on the Cp tracks)most of the entire downtown & Beltline would be in deep shyte!
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2013, 6:41 AM
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They should cap over the rail tracks running through downtown and build a large park on it
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2013, 6:52 AM
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They should cap over the rail tracks running through downtown and build a large park on it
This guy gets it
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2013, 5:53 PM
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I hate to think this way but would putting an arena over top of train tracks be a security risk? Consider the devestation of Lac Megantic with only a few cars exploding. We have trains full of diluent running through downtown, I wouldn't think having 19,000 people sitting on top of that would be a good idea.
I think it’s good to think about worst case scenarios, but in this case I don’t think a Lac Megantic type accident is very likely. That was caused by a runaway train rolling down hill which ended up going so fast it jumped the tracks. The train accordioned when it derailed and I think several dozen cars at least exploded and burned. We’re not likely to ever have a train moving at high speed going through downtown Calgary, so if one did derail it would likely be only a small number of cars. Still, theoretically one or more could explode, but I think the underside of concrete stands would stand up to that kind of explosion and fireball quite well. You’d probably want to make sure the stands were concrete and not steel, however. Tunnels and fires can be bad news as well, but if you made this tunnel big, say starting at right at the LRT stop and extending over the tracks and one leg of Bow Trail, with large openings at either end, I’m guessing that would be fine. Obviously you’d need to do all the right calculations, but my first thought is that it would be doable.

I think this is a good idea in general. It would make use of otherwise unusable space. It would give you access from both the top and the bottom, which would allow you to get people in and out quickly. It would also create some very interesting and unique views. Offhand I can’t think of another stadium where you enter at the top. There would be opportunities for some great views of both the stadium bowl and field, and the downtown skyline, and in fact much of the greater downtown area. I like it.
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2013, 4:48 PM
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heard that the new arena/sports complex will be at COP.
owners of Cowboys are fumed because they spent million dollars renovating cowboys and now the sports arena will be no where close to downtown.
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heard that the new arena/sports complex will be at COP.
owners of Cowboys are fumed because they spent million dollars renovating cowboys and now the sports arena will be no where close to downtown.
I'll believe that when I see it.
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2013, 5:26 PM
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Why would they build where there is no transit access?
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I don't think the city would approve this kind of complex out there. I'm still thinking their going to build a new complex around the Sunalta station.
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heard that the new arena/sports complex will be at COP.
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Why would they build where there is no transit access?
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I don't think the city would approve this kind of complex out there. I'm still thinking their going to build a new complex around the Sunalta station.
Agreed with everyone. No way in hell the City (especially transportation) will approve an arena where there is no transit. Planning Commission will most certainly refuse the application.
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Seems like theres a little more information on a new/refurbished arena(s) front.

It was mentioned on the Global News hour last night.

http://globalnews.ca/video/1238266/news-hour-mar-28-8

fast forward ahead to the 11:15 mark.
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Seems like theres a little more information on a new/refurbished arena(s) front.

It was mentioned on the Global News hour last night.

http://globalnews.ca/video/1238266/news-hour-mar-28-8

fast forward ahead to the 11:15 mark.
To summarize:
-hockey and/or football arena plans will be revealed this year
-the owners are suggesting that we might have a shot at another olympic bid if a stadium is funded
-no new details on location or design
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