Canadian City Proposals - Page 415

Chadillaccc · #**8281** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 12:52 AM**

I was there this weekend. Will post progress shots of the demolition later.

Black Star · #**8282** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 1:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by CanadianCentaur

Here's the latest Kelly-Ramsey rendering which was posted by Coldrsx a couple of pages back as adjusted for a more normal perspective, as the whole original rendering looks skewed.

I've managed to adjust the whole thing the best I could using CorelDraw (not the best photoshopping/art software, but...), so here it is.

Looks good. But....But I liked the skewed rendering better

I like how it tapered up! Good job tho.

isaidso · #**8283** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 5:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by MonkeyRonin

Why wouldn't it possible? Why would a non-downtown mall need surface parking to survive? That most of them up until now have had surface parking is nothing more than a reflection of land values.

Because most traffic to malls in suburbia arrive by car. Are you trying to tell me that Yorkville Shopping Centre in Toronto would prosper if the surface parking were dug up? It's there because that part of the city isn't walkable and transit in suburbia is terrible. Most of those people are not going to take a bus to Yorkdale or a bus to a subway station to get to Yorkdale.

TallBob · #**8284** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 6:23 AM**

These two 200 meter proposed buildings for Edmonton.... I'm curious, what about the DT Airport?

Chadillaccc · #**8285** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 6:30 AM**

People talk about the ongoing dismantling and imminent closure of Edmonton City Centre Airport on here quite often actually.

Kelly Ramsey Building - 120 meters - 24 floors

travis3000 · #**8286** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 1:59 PM**

I'm still skeptical a 71 storey tower would be built in Edmonton right now. Not only would this be the tallest project ever in the city, with an estimated height of about 800ft+ (245m), this building would stand out like a sore thumb with nothing even close in height in the city. May be a long shot but hey, I wish them all the best in getting this thing to construction in that current state. It would be nice to see some serious action in Alberta that is not in Calgary.

WhipperSnapper · #**8287** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 2:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by isaidso

Because most traffic to malls in suburbia arrive by car. Are you trying to tell me that Yorkville Shopping Centre in Toronto would prosper if the surface parking were dug up? It's there because that part of the city isn't walkable and transit in suburbia is terrible. Most of those people are not going to take a bus to Yorkdale or a bus to a subway station to get to Yorkdale.

I don't see Yorkdale suffering were the parking located under the mall opposed to on the surface. Toronto has some successful non core smaller malls without surface parking. The shops of Don Mills won't have any surface parking when the masterplan is completed too.

Coldrsx · #**8288** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 2:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by TallBob

These two 200 meter proposed buildings for Edmonton.... I'm curious, what about the DT Airport?

One runway closed, the other closing Nov 30.

Coldrsx · #**8289** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 2:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by travis3000

I'm still skeptical a 71 storey tower would be built in Edmonton right now. Not only would this be the tallest project ever in the city, with an estimated height of about 800ft+ (245m), this building would stand out like a sore thumb with nothing even close in height in the city. May be a long shot but hey, I wish them all the best in getting this thing to construction in that current state. It would be nice to see some serious action in Alberta that is not in Calgary.

We are somewhat skeptical as well given who is behind this, but dont be fooled about a lack of 'serious action' outside of Calgary, we have a good amount u/c and a lot more coming, ~4billion worth of projects on the books in the downtown.

Spring2008 · #**8290** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 3:15 PM**

Yikes, what happened to Kelly Ramsey? Looks like it's been Epcor-ized. Fat and stubby.

Is this even going to hit the 100m mark now if it gets built?

Coldrsx · #**8291** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 3:56 PM**

~125m or so if I recall.

Spring2008 · #**8292** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 4:14 PM**

Weird, so 5-6 floors cut from the original while keeping the same height? Regardless, that's now a filler project at best.

Coldrsx · #**8293** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 4:24 PM**

^hahaha a filler project, hardly.

It will still look very good, incorporate 2 historical facades, add a good amount of UG parking AND most of all, add a bunch of high quality CRUs to our core.

Chadillaccc · #**8294** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 4:30 PM**

What is a CRU? I just know it as Calgary Rugby Union

I agree though, Kelly Ramsey is hardly infill, especially if it is still 125 meters.

Rico Rommheim · #**8295** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 4:51 PM**

Le Rubic. Nice infill project in the downtown east-end.

Its replacing a pretty shitty Urban space.

Coldrsx · #**8296** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 4:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

What is a CRU? I just know it as Calgary Rugby Union

I agree though, Kelly Ramsey is hardly infill, especially if it is still 125 meters.

Commercial Retail Unit, there will be a few at grade that will activate this area very very well.

LeftCoaster · #**8297** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 5:51 PM**

Think of a CRU as retail space under about 15,000sf. Anything larger is categorized as LNM, so sort of like a junoir anchor, tenants like Forever XXI, H&M, Zara etc...

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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

I don't see Yorkdale suffering were the parking located under the mall opposed to on the surface. Toronto has some successful non core smaller malls without surface parking. The shops of Don Mills won't have any surface parking when the masterplan is completed too.

Ya but visit shops at don mills mid winter and tell me how it looks... Canada's weather is not conducive to outdoor "lifestyle centres". I don't expect them to go away entirely but they will never catch on here like they did in the states for two main reasons.

1. In the US many of these malls thrive in cities with poor downtown high street retail. In Canada we are fortunate enough that most if not all of our cities have vibrant downtown shopping districts, providing much stiffer competition for lifestyle centres than seen in the south.

2. Weather. There is no way around it, the weather is a huge factor keeping people away from lifestyle centres. Most importantly any shopping centres key months are November and December, which happen to be 2 of the most unpleasant months to be outside in Canada, making it tough for retailers to really cash in on the christmas months.

Chadillaccc · #**8298** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 5:54 PM**

Oh okay. That's great.

Coldrsx · #**8299** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 6:49 PM**

New rendering for Encore smack dab downtown Edmonton

(http://encoretower.com/images/encore_rendering.jpg)

Chadillaccc · #**8300** Posted **Oct 7, 2013, 7:14 PM**

40 stories of residential should put it around 140 meters! 2nd tallest residential in the province behind The Guardian in Calgary if that is the case! Very good!