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Old Posted Sep 26, 2013, 2:26 AM
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I don't understand the need to engage in this City to City bickering. Wish you folks would stop. Or do it in private messages so we don't have to wade through it.
Why can't people be tad critical on this forum? What I said is true. And it isn't a simple opinion— it's a near truism.
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2013, 2:36 AM
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Why can't people be tad critical on this forum? What I said is true. And it isn't a simple opinion— it's a near truism.
This is the Saint John development thread. If you want to explore this line of thought further, feel free to create your own thread, it's easy to do. You, RyeJay, Gnarly, Homebody and q12 can have at it. The rest of us won't have to bother with it.

In the meantime, perhaps it's time for a mod to consider deleting the last page of posts since they haven't contributed constructively to discussions regarding the Saint John development scene.......
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2013, 2:41 AM
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Hopefully someone buys this, would be sad to see it go!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/reversing-falls-jet-boat-owner-bailing-out-1.1867666

The Reversing Falls jet boat in Saint John may be speeding into the sunset.

The boat has given people a chance to ride the turbulent waves of the Reversing Falls, where the St. John River dumps into the Bay of Fundy, for almost 20 years. But owner Marc Gosselin has had enough of the business.

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Marc Gosselin has been operating the Reversing Falls jet boat for almost 20 years and says it's time for him to move into another venture. (CBC)

"We're getting tired," said Gosselin. "You know, we start that 19 years ago. Now I'm in my fifties and I need to look at some other venture."

Gosselin has listed the business for sale for almost $500,000, but no interested buyers have emerged. Gosselin says if the business doesn't sell during the off-season, he won't be operating it in the spring of 2014.

'We're getting tired.'
- Reversing Falls jet boat owner Marc Gosselin
But he hopes a buyer will step forward.

"Because it's such a good attraction for Saint John," said Gosselin. "It's such a nice thing. And people remember. It's part of their list, their bucket list."

Ellen Tucker caters to tourists with her business, Freedom Tours. Tucker hopes the jet boat ride remains something that can attract tourists to Saint John.

"It's critical because the reason people come to a given place is things that they can do in a place," said Tucker. "When you think about it, there aren't that many places in the world that you can do something like this."
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2013, 12:16 PM
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Hopefully someone buys it! It's one of Saint John's best attractions and my second favourite thing I've done in New Brunswick besides kayaking the Hopewell Rocks. It's even fun for residents and not just tourists! People come from all over to see the reversing "falls" and they are rather unspectacular, but to get to EXPERIENCE them makes up for the dissapointment completely!
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2013, 12:21 PM
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How much does the boat cost? The rest of the costs to me seem like they'd be fairly minor compared to the boat itself. If a business person could buy a different boat for say 100k and start up a similar business, than the 500k he's asking for is bonkers. But if the boat itself is more like 300k, then it's probably more reasonable to buy him out and take advantage of the history and the framework that's already set up.
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2013, 1:26 PM
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Hopefully someone buys it! It's one of Saint John's best attractions and my second favourite thing I've done in New Brunswick besides kayaking the Hopewell Rocks. It's even fun for residents and not just tourists! People come from all over to see the reversing "falls" and they are rather unspectacular, but to get to EXPERIENCE them makes up for the dissapointment completely!
Agreed! I have done this twice myself and would do it again in a heartbeat. It is as good as just about anything I have done around the world, and I have been all around the world.

The price seems a little steep but without seeing their books and understanding their profit margins it is very difficult to analyze. I have done the zip line and although I have done better/larger zip line courses, theirs is very good as well.
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Id imagine the fuel and insurance costs would be fairly significant.
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2013, 3:47 PM
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Anyone see the equipment behind Mercedes? Are they expanding the facilities ?
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2013, 6:14 PM
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Waterfront Development is launching a public consultation for redesigning the Boardwalk/Market Slip/Loyalist Plaza area. Here's their website, with details on upcoming consultation events and a public suggestions box: http://talkthewalk.ca/
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Id imagine the fuel and insurance costs would be fairly significant.
Insurance and dock space rental (as well as retail rental) would probably be the other big up front costs, along with the boat itself. But fuel costs should mostly be covered from actual running/renting the boat. After the first few runs, they should be covering the fuel costs, or you really aren't pricing your rentals right.
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Old Posted Sep 30, 2013, 9:43 AM
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Insurance and dock space rental (as well as retail rental) would probably be the other big up front costs, along with the boat itself. But fuel costs should mostly be covered from actual running/renting the boat. After the first few runs, they should be covering the fuel costs, or you really aren't pricing your rentals right.
Are you aware of the engines that are in those boats?

They aren't exactly fuel efficient.
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Back on the topic of development...

I noticed late last week that work is being done on 222 Water Street (pic attached). Does anyone know if the proposal from this website - http://222water.com - is moving forward?

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Old Posted Sep 30, 2013, 3:04 PM
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Guys

Just to close off the Cabela's comment.
We were working with them to bring them to Saint John. Moncton won because of location only.
The store cost is $35 million. If you don't believe me then visit one!!
Now lets move on and stop the stupid comments.
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2013, 6:07 AM
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The store cost is $35 million. If you don't believe me then visit one!!
Lol.
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2013, 9:20 PM
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Pretty exciting that both One Mile and the Welsford Bypass are set to open in the next month or so. I'll have to check them out when i'm back in town for Christmas.
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Old Posted Oct 2, 2013, 5:26 PM
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Guys

Just to close off the Cabela's comment.
We were working with them to bring them to Saint John. Moncton won because of location only.
The store cost is $35 million. If you don't believe me then visit one!!
Now lets move on and stop the stupid comments.
I have been to a few different Cabella's on different occasions. They are big stores, still not sure I buy it would cost anywhere near the ballpark you are describing unless your counting stock as well. Not sure that makes me stupid, but we can move on.
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Old Posted Oct 2, 2013, 5:27 PM
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Pretty exciting that both One Mile and the Welsford Bypass are set to open in the next month or so. I'll have to check them out when i'm back in town for Christmas.
It will be very nice to have both projects completed. Now if we could just get that Harbour bridge finished and back open to four lanes. It is really surprising the volume of traffic that utilities that bridge.
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http://danculberson.com/2013/10/07/adanac-building/

Found this interesting link ...
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2013, 10:41 PM
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Morgan Lanigan, part of the ownership group taking over the building, was kind enough to let me explore a little bit and share these photos with you.
Lanigan, huh? That name is familiar...
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Cool find.
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