BC Place: Stadium Refurbishment | Completed - Page 247

WarrenC12 · #**4921** Posted **Sep 24, 2013, 8:06 PM**

Should have added a green roof for guaranteed council approval.

officedweller · #**4922** Posted **Sep 24, 2013, 9:40 PM**

Posted over at the downtown thread:
http://www.site10a.com

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Originally Posted by Klazu

PLUS:

Architectural Features and Renderings:
(I like the interior spaces - definitely not a condo development with an added hotel)

• Video Link

Architects:

design architect
ARCOP + ACDF ARCHITECTURE in collaboration with Michel Panzini

http://www.arcop.com/flash.php?lang=en

http://www.acdf.ca/site/fr/accueil/

http://panzini.com/

Pinion · #**4923** Posted **Sep 24, 2013, 10:10 PM**

I like the new proposal a lot more than the previous proposal. Both in design and lessened emphasis on the casino part.

AverageJoe · #**4924** Posted **Sep 24, 2013, 10:18 PM**

I really like this design and concept. My only gripe is its location.

1) It would've been great next to the water at the current Edgewater location.

2) The wall of black glass, nice as it is, would be shielding the view of BC Place as one drives into downtown from Cambie Bridge. I think BC Place says "welcome to Vancouver" much more than the black glass.

WarrenC12 · #**4925** Posted **Sep 24, 2013, 10:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by AverageJoe

I really like this design and concept. My only gripe is its location.

1) It would've been great next to the water at the current Edgewater location.

I disagree completely. Right beside BC Place is a perfect place for a convention centre style hotel complex.

The Plaza of Nations site would ideally become something else that can take much better advantage of the waterfront... I liked the previous art gallery proposal, with plenty of public space.

EastVanMark · #**4926** Posted **Sep 24, 2013, 11:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by AverageJoe

I really like this design and concept. My only gripe is its location.

1) It would've been great next to the water at the current Edgewater location.

2) The wall of black glass, nice as it is, would be shielding the view of BC Place as one drives into downtown from Cambie Bridge. I think BC Place says "welcome to Vancouver" much more than the black glass.

Agreed. This new render certainly is better than the previous ones, the project is significant enough to warrant its own prominent spot across the street at the Plaza of Nations leaving the city with 2 significant buildings with unique architecture to feed off of each other and energize that whole area. Oh well, at least now we will no longer have the worst casino in the region in our largest center

Smooth · #**4927** Posted **Sep 24, 2013, 11:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

I disagree completely. Right beside BC Place is a perfect place for a convention centre style hotel complex.

The Plaza of Nations site would ideally become something else that can take much better advantage of the waterfront... I liked the previous art gallery proposal, with plenty of public space.

I think the problem with an art gallery right on the waterfront is that art doesn't do well in natural light so the building space could not make great use of the location. The gallery also needs lots of vault space so they probably wouldn't want to build at sea level.

Personally, I think the current Plaza of Nations building would be a great site for a relocated Vancouver Maritime Museum.

Klazu · #**4928** Posted **Sep 24, 2013, 11:40 PM**

I like the design and everything about it, but I don't get how this and One Pacific development will fit together in that small lot with current street alignments?

I also agree that it's shame that beautiful BC Place gets more covered by the buildings. I also wouldn't want to have a window facing the bright LED lights of the roof...

spm2013 · #**4929** Posted **Sep 25, 2013, 12:00 AM**

Credit: site10a.com

Project briefing (still getting processed by Youtube):

• Video Link

TwoFace · #**4930** Posted **Sep 25, 2013, 12:30 AM**

I don't see any longevity in this type of design. It may look "cool" today, but 10 years from now it will probably rival the Pacific centre Toilet Bowl.

dleung · #**4931** Posted **Sep 25, 2013, 12:52 AM**

The design doesn't fit in Vancouver, though it will fit quite well next to the Mandalay Bay in Vegas. Imo, the immediate block surrounding BC place should have a height limit to the bottom of the stadium's clerestory windows.

GeeCee · #**4932** Posted **Sep 25, 2013, 1:29 AM**

I'm not a big fan of the new look. I guess it matches the stadium better..

red-paladin · #**4933** Posted **Sep 25, 2013, 2:08 AM**

O.O
I thought everyone wanted buildings with reflective curtain walls...

cornholio · #**4934** Posted **Sep 25, 2013, 2:23 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klazu

I like the design and everything about it, but I don't get how this and One Pacific development will fit together in that small lot with current street alignments?

I also agree that it's shame that beautiful BC Place gets more covered by the buildings. I also wouldn't want to have a window facing the bright LED lights of the roof...

If the glass is reflective enough then the stadium won't be covered but infact maybe even more visible from more angles. Although that would also result in more light being reflected into more condos...

logan5 · #**4935** Posted **Sep 25, 2013, 2:47 AM**

It's flashy, but not over the top flashy. It covers up a lot of the lower half of BC Place (which is a good thing), but preserves a partial view of the top half of the stadium which include the masts and the lighting feature - which I think is a good thing as well. IMO, the stadium lighting looks garish (especially when they use christmas green), so I think getting the stadium in smaller doses is an improvement. I could easily accept the facade of this building over BC Place.

The end of one of the presentations said fall 2016, so they expect to start construction almost right away? (pending approval)
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It appears that the rest of the building will have a glass curtain wall in a silver colour.

Infrequent Poster · #**4936** Posted **Sep 25, 2013, 3:01 AM**

Hey a building that isnt speckled with ten million balconies. This alone is enough to make me a fan.

Pinion · #**4937** Posted **Sep 25, 2013, 3:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by Infrequent Poster

Hey a building that isnt speckled with ten million balconies. This alone is enough to make me a fan.

Balconies+casino=lots of street clean-up crew overtime pay. There aren't many in Vegas either.

squeezied · #**4938** Posted **Sep 25, 2013, 4:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by TwoFace

I don't see any longevity in this type of design. It may look "cool" today, but 10 years from now it will probably rival the Pacific centre Toilet Bowl.

You read my mind. The first thing I though of was the Sears building. Surely it looked cool and futuristic at the time it was designed, but it ended up being one of the most hated buildings in Vancouver.

Being one of the many persons in this forum frustrated by the sea of monotone towers in this city, I can appreciate the boldness and uniqueness of this design. However I can't help but feel that a few decades later we'll have very different opinions of this building. I just don't see it ageing well.

NewWester · #**4939** Posted **Sep 25, 2013, 5:45 AM**

I'm mostly curious about how it will really look. Glass in renders poorly reflects their reality and this whole building is ambitiously glazed glass. I think this one we will have to actually see to judge.

(Although, the argument about it being too of-the-moment sounds like its got some merit to it.)

GeeCee · #**4940** Posted **Sep 25, 2013, 6:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by red-paladin

O.O
I thought everyone wanted buildings with reflective curtain walls...

No way, sea foam green glass buildings forever!