Calgary Public Transit II - Page 336

Joborule · #**6701** Posted **Sep 13, 2013, 5:31 AM**

Buffalo design is the sexiest.

joe498 · #**6702** Posted **Sep 13, 2013, 3:31 PM**

Not sure I ever saw this mentioned on here but:

Posted on August 22nd:
Magline Transit Would Create 45 Minute Commute From Calgary To Edmonton:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/08/22/magline-transit-edmonton-dan-corns_n_3797625.html

shogged · #**6703** Posted **Sep 13, 2013, 5:37 PM**

design book

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/786015/s200-design-book.pdf

MalcolmTucker · #**6704** Posted **Sep 13, 2013, 5:44 PM**

I'm very impressed about this first phase of U2 replacements. Rode in a refurbished Edmonton U2 yesterday, and Calgary made the right choice!

Calgarian · #**6705** Posted **Sep 13, 2013, 6:20 PM**

The $3.4 billion number for that Maglev sounds really really low.

Wigs · #**6706** Posted **Sep 13, 2013, 7:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Calgarian

The $3.4 billion number for that Maglev sounds really really low.

considering it cost the Chinese ~$1.2B to build 30km of track for the Shanghai Maglev (even with their ridiculous supply of cheap labour), yeah I'd say the ~300km trip to Edmonton would cost a helluva lot more than $3.4B

MalcolmTucker · #**6707** Posted **Sep 14, 2013, 12:29 AM**

^ The picture on their website is for much lighter vehicles, so lighter guideway. Betting on new tech is a huge risk. The government likely won't put any funds into any potential highspeed project besides maybe some assistance with land acquisition. If they can do it for that price, it would be profitable even without government dollars for right of way.

RyLucky · #**6708** Posted **Sep 14, 2013, 1:26 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe498

Not sure I ever saw this mentioned on here but:

Posted on August 22nd:
Magline Transit Would Create 45 Minute Commute From Calgary To Edmonton:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/08/22/magline-transit-edmonton-dan-corns_n_3797625.html

I like it because MAG sounds like MAGpie. Our unofficial regional bird. According to me.

fusili · #**6709** Posted **Sep 17, 2013, 4:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by freeweed

The driver cabins, at best, could hold 2 people standing up. So you're talking 4 people per car, in a car that holds what, 60? I can't even remember. Let's go with 60.

On a 4 car train, there are currently 8 cabins. You need 2 at least (have to be able to reverse a train in an emergency, from the other end). So you could in theory take out 6 cabins, and add 12 more standing bodies. Out of 240 passengers.

A 5% capacity increase, at the cost of incredibly reduced flexibility - cars couple and uncouple all the time - as well as increased cost because now you'd be designing several models of car. Doesn't seem worth it to me.

Also, the Buffalo design is the only one worth doing.

Crush load on the SD160s is 226 IIRC. So, almost quadruple your estimate.

ByeByeBaby · #**6710** Posted **Sep 18, 2013, 5:35 PM**

Dadgum, I'm out of town the day CT announces new trains.

Very nice designs, all three -- though I concur with the general feel of the forum in ranking them Buffalo/Bow/Mask. Still, a slick set of equipment, and I'm thrilled about better side seating.

freeweed · #**6711** Posted **Sep 19, 2013, 4:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by fusili

Crush load on the SD160s is 226 IIRC. So, almost quadruple your estimate.

I figured as much. Going conservative is easiest.

Either way, you're not going to add much capacity by expanding the standing area by 2-3 feet in either direction. Not on a 60 (I think?) foot long car.

I once again appeal to CPS and our society as a whole - we simply cannot hold up our entire transportation grid because of a single accident. Take some quick photos, remove whatever damage exists, and get the damn system working again. Sorry if we don't always know the second-by-second details of why yet another person was foolish enough to walk onto train tracks.

mersar · #**6712** Posted **Sep 19, 2013, 4:35 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeweed

I figured as much. Going conservative is easiest.

Either way, you're not going to add much capacity by expanding the standing area by 2-3 feet in either direction. Not on a 60 (I think?) foot long car.

I once again appeal to CPS and our society as a whole - we simply cannot hold up our entire transportation grid because of a single accident. Take some quick photos, remove whatever damage exists, and get the damn system working again. Sorry if we don't always know the second-by-second details of why yet another person was foolish enough to walk onto train tracks.

25 meter... there you go being conservative again

frinkprof · #**6713** Posted **Sep 20, 2013, 6:12 AM**

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It’s Your Transit: You decide what the front of Calgary Transit’s new CTrain cars will look like.

There are three design options for the front of the new CTrain cars and Calgary Transit wants you to decide which one is right for Calgary. Please submit your vote by clicking on the following link:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/CTS200LRV

by Friday, October 11.

http://www.calgarytransit.com/survey/

Designs:

Buffalo

Bow

Mask

frinkprof · #**6714** Posted **Sep 20, 2013, 6:21 AM**

The capacity gain by having married pairs of cars (i.e. removing one driver's cab per LRV-of-current-dimensions) is in the 5-6% range.

When weighed against the reduction of fleet management benefits as they exist with the current size of the fleet and also the fact that Calgary will be regularly running consists with an odd number of current-dimensioned LRVs (3) for quite some time, it's not that attractive an option at this time.

joe498 · #**6715** Posted **Sep 23, 2013, 3:17 AM**

Harper says Ottawa will help extend Toronto’s subway system.

So Prime Minister Harper, what about Calgary?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ha...oronto-s-subway-system-1.1863966?cmp=rss

MalcolmTucker · #**6716** Posted **Sep 23, 2013, 3:40 AM**

I doubt Toronto is getting any special funding more than the normal per capita grants. Things just don't work like that.

Edmonton is actually extra special funding for its SE LRT through P3 Canada.