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Old Posted Aug 14, 2013, 4:41 PM
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There will be little to no impact on Saint John now...but sooner than later the fact of being the last of the "big 3" to have something will most likely pressure council to follow suit.
I think your right. Eventually SJ will follow the trend but it will have basically zero impact on retail.
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Old Posted Aug 16, 2013, 4:43 PM
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Pedway To Get Fixed Up This Fall

The Chipman Hill portion of the Pedway will be getting some major repairs in the near future.

Uptown dwellers might remember the late January wind storm that loosened the glass wall in the middle of the daily lunch rush. After that episode, the section of the indoor connection had to undergo some temporary repairs.

Now, the City has issued a call for tenders until September 4 for the replacement of the curtain wall. They stipulate it would ideally be finished by the end of October.

The pedway was originally built in the early 1980s and is Atlantic Canada's longest indoor, climate-controlled pedway system.

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Old Posted Aug 21, 2013, 10:51 AM
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Hopefully the warehouse building can be preserved or renovated - those would be some killer lofts.
Hardly. That location is the PITS.
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Old Posted Aug 21, 2013, 1:59 PM
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I am hearing about more developments for Bayside drive.
So far MacDonalds will be starting soon.
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Old Posted Aug 21, 2013, 6:38 PM
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I am hearing about more developments for Bayside drive.
So far MacDonalds will be starting soon.
I heard it's going right beside the car wash? Not a lot of room there, will it be some kind of smaller express version? Nice to see property there being bought up in anticipation of the mile one interchange. I'm not looking forward to the traffic though. I live right there in Saint John East, so it's nice to have stuff a couple blocks away. I'd prefer something other than McDonalds, but I guess it will come in handy from time to time . Do you think we will see any properties on the other side of the street being bought up and converted? Would that be a hassle or are they already in a commercial zone?
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Old Posted Aug 21, 2013, 7:41 PM
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I heard it's going right beside the car wash? Not a lot of room there, will it be some kind of smaller express version? Nice to see property there being bought up in anticipation of the mile one interchange. I'm not looking forward to the traffic though. I live right there in Saint John East, so it's nice to have stuff a couple blocks away. I'd prefer something other than McDonalds, but I guess it will come in handy from time to time . Do you think we will see any properties on the other side of the street being bought up and converted? Would that be a hassle or are they already in a commercial zone?
It is already happening.
Lots of properties being bought up.
Stay tuned! lol
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Old Posted Aug 22, 2013, 3:50 PM
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Glad to see this idea gaining traction! I'm especially excited that there's the possibility of legislation to allow tax increment financing as a funding option for urban revitalization initiatives.

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April Cunningham, TELEGRAPH-JOURNAL, 22 AUG 2013 08:47AM

SAINT JOHN – A long-held vision to redevelop Main Street from a tired, six-lane “eyesore” to a vibrant corridor with condominiums, shops and a view of the harbour could become reality if the province adopts changes to what is now a provincially designated highway.

A group of politicians and residents have met with government officials to push the proposal forward, which could also include an innovative funding scheme that could help municipalities across the province.

“Right now it’s a terrible waste of land – valuable land,” said Coun. John MacKenzie, who got Common Council’s support on the proposal earlier this year. “Land that, when you build up, could look over the harbour.”

MacKenzie said the Main Street corridor – which is more like a highway between uptown to the old north end – was built for a population expected to grow well beyond 200,000 residents. “But we don’t have that. We have like 70,000,” he said.

Now, MacKenzie and a few other community leaders have met with the provincial Department of Transportation and Infrastructure to launch a process that, if successful, could result in redevelopment within three years.

Main Street is now part of Route 100, a provincially designated highway that runs through the city on streets including Rothesay Avenue and Chesley Drive. So any changes require approval from the province, said Morgan Lanigan, an architectural technologist who first pitched the idea of a reconfigured Main Street a few months ago.

“With the original change to a six-lane freeway, the old north end was essentially severed from the rest of the city,” he said. “There’s a giant gap there and like any vital organ in your body, it needs blood. It needs oxygen. The way to do that is to essentially turn Main Street back the way it was 40 years ago.”

The idea is to reduce the number of lanes that make up Main Street to make way for new development. At the same time, Lanigan wants to see east and westbound traffic re-routed to Paradise Row and Hilyard Street. Traffic could be slowed down by a large intersection or roundabout across the viaduct from uptown.

Lanigan said initial reactions from provincial officials indicate they agree with initiatives that “make sense.” If the province was open to the idea, traffic and engineering studies would need to take place, which could take up to two years, he said.

With the realities of tight infrastructure budgets, Lanigan has come up with a “groundbreaking” financing scheme that would require legislative changes.

The plan, known as tax increment financing, would allow the city to get a loan based on future tax gains.

“I think we could free up five, 10 or 15 acres of developable land,” he said. “Just transferring ownership to a private entity rather than it being in the city’s or province’s ownership, you’d be new generating tax revenue immediately.”

In effect, he said Main Street would be a “self-financing” project, providing everything the neighbourhood needs, including better pedestrian access, homes, barber shops and small restaurants.

Carl Killen, the Conservative MLA for Saint John Harbour, is also involved in the initiative, not just as a politician, but as a Saint Johner who grew up on Main Street North.

“It’s always been an eye-sore and a threat to pedestrians,” he said of the expanded six-lane thoroughfare, which was built when he was a youngster. “So if there’s a way to redevelop the street and realign streets so the provincial roads connect and make more sense than it does now, and you’re able to make a part of the city that is laying dormant in many ways more viable both residentially, commercially and just generally speaking for people, how is that a bad thing?”

Killen said the north end has gone through tremendous changes since he grew up at 227 Main St. at the corner of Durham Street, at what is now a vacant lot in a neighbourhood filled with dilapidated buildings. But he believes the area holds a lot of promise.

“I don’t even know what that would look like, but I just know that anywhere you go in the world... there is an appeal of having that harbour view,” he said. “To have Main Street with Fort Howe in the background, which is itself quite beautiful, there is a lot to be said for the old north end.”
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Old Posted Aug 22, 2013, 4:20 PM
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I love the North End, it has immense potential!
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Old Posted Aug 23, 2013, 5:21 AM
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It is already happening.
Lots of properties being bought up.
Stay tuned! lol
I drove by there for the first time in a while and was surprised with what was going on on Bayside.

That intersection is getting widened too in anticipation of the One Mile.
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Old Posted Aug 23, 2013, 1:17 PM
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That intersection is getting widened too in anticipation of the One Mile.
The whole plan is here, to show how it's all going to connect: http://www.gnb.ca/0113/projects/images/May2008-plan-and-survey-opt.pdf
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2013, 12:58 PM
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I am hearing a rumour about a new hotel for Saint John West?
I will do some home work on this. Anyone else hear this??
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2013, 2:06 PM
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I am hearing a rumour about a new hotel for Saint John West?
I will do some home work on this. Anyone else hear this??
haven't heard anything... still waiting for a theatre

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Old Posted Aug 27, 2013, 3:38 AM
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Any updates on the old Paramount Theatre? I think that space has potential and the documentary film was really neat. It was cool seeing Saint John on my tv and not just as a short news item. Thank God the Imperial is still looking grand inside and out as i took in a show there last fall.
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Old Posted Aug 29, 2013, 1:52 AM
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Saint John West is where ideas go to die...I've been visiting there since birth and things have barely changed in 33 years. Manawagonish-same, Golden Mile-same. The rest of the city looks much better though. Ran the marathon the past two years and loved it! Uptown Saint John was a great place for a beer or three, even if it was a little quiet. My kids loved the Freak Lunchbox!
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Old Posted Aug 29, 2013, 1:21 PM
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fundy quay anyone??
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Old Posted Aug 29, 2013, 1:40 PM
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Saint John West is where ideas go to die...I've been visiting there since birth and things have barely changed in 33 years. Manawagonish-same, Golden Mile-same. The rest of the city looks much better though. Ran the marathon the past two years and loved it! Uptown Saint John was a great place for a beer or three, even if it was a little quiet. My kids loved the Freak Lunchbox!
Golden Mile - same.........really??
You better come back and look again!
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Old Posted Aug 29, 2013, 6:23 PM
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Honestly, aside from some retail changes and makeovers (ie. Kent, Lawtons), there's not really much there. It's also torn up pretty bad right now around O'Brien. There's been talk of many things happening there, few have panned out. All I'm saying is, it's not a terribly exciting place for an out-of-towner. As a kid visiting, I used to feel marooned on the West Side and the great reprieve was walking down the street to the By-Way to buy junk. Also, is Bob's Take Out closed for good? I used to hit that grease pit now and again, but it wasn't open when I was around this time.
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Old Posted Sep 2, 2013, 3:39 AM
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Golden Mile - same.........really??
You better come back and look again!
He's right though. West SJ has received a facelift in recent years but it's still nothing special.

I mean... Just take a look at all the properties on Fairville Blvd that have been empty for years or have been recently torn down. Basically the entire stretch from O'brien to Kierstead is ENTIRELY filled with recent tear downs, empty concrete pads or run down old retail. That ain't good.
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Old Posted Sep 2, 2013, 12:53 PM
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He's right though. West SJ has received a facelift in recent years but it's still nothing special.

I mean... Just take a look at all the properties on Fairville Blvd that have been empty for years or have been recently torn down. Basically the entire stretch from O'brien to Kierstead is ENTIRELY filled with recent tear downs, empty concrete pads or run down old retail. That ain't good.
I have to disagree a little bit. Particularly in the stretch you mentioned where there is a new Sobeys, new Canadin Tire, new NB Liquor Store, new Significant strip Mall, and the Cox building is relatively new. The other side of the street could use some development.

I dont think we will ever see this change much on the West side because this is the way West Siders like it. They don't want traffic or congestion that would be associated with a busier commercial area. That is why they live West and not East.
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Old Posted Sep 2, 2013, 6:26 PM
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I heard a rumour that Downeys is moving their dealership back to Haymarket Square - anyone know fi there is any truth to this?
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