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The H. Meinsch Bldg at the corner, advertising Taix at 321 Commercial down at the bend. Looking down Commercial across San Pedro toward Alameda. Note how close that image is to this one, including the two-tone Buick! Must've belonged to Eddie.

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My main forum hangout is the Lounge at Ars Technica; threads there (which are more streamlined than here) usually move pretty fast and purely congratulatory posts are not the norm. There are tons of posts I find fantastic, most of them really, but I feel like I'm cluttering up the thread if I say so without having something else to contribute at the same time. So let this just be a blanket 'thank you' to all the folks who post their stuff, especially those who go the extra mile and go 'out in the field'. I've been on web forums for over 13 years - I've probably visited a couple of dozen for various periods of time - and this thread is the only place outside my normal hangout at Ars Technica that has kept me coming back to stay current almost every day, for years. Because it's so consistently awesome.

So, *like*. ^_^
I wanted to give you double "like" for the sky shot of the Spider Pool.
I had found the address but it didn't zero in on the exact location.
Thanks to your screen capture I was able to find it once I figured out that you could rotate the view 90 deg with Google map. I'd never used that feature. Anyway, I found it and thank you, ProphetM. Excellent work.

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Old Posted Aug 26, 2013, 8:39 AM
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Summer of 1961 -- looking down Commercial St from Main, the Los Angeles Warehouse Co in far distance at the bend, now renamed the Charles R Hadley Company. (Compare the intersection of Los Angeles St here.)

Looking the other way:
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North thru the intersection of Los Angeles St toward all sorts of lovely old wholesale stores...now you'd be looking through a bunch of offices in the Federal Building and then, across the street, into Fletcher Bowron Square.
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2013, 9:13 AM
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The NW corner of Commercial and Market: 1961 & 8/20/62. The Rees & Wirsching Bldg (suppliers of LA's carriages and buggies), and the Hotel Diamond are going, going...Rees & Wirsching dates to 1882 although its third story was added in 1897. It even survived a devastating 1902 fire!




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Summer of 1961 -- looking down Commercial St from Main, the Los Angeles Warehouse Co in far distance at the bend, now renamed the Charles R Hadley Company.

The Charles R. Hadley company has an interesting history...it was bought by Burroughs in 1955, which became Unisys. (I wasn't even sure if Unisys still existed, but apparently it does.)

Anyway, Charles R. Hadley himself lived here:



Hadley commissioned Hudson & Munsell to design his house at 2976 Wilshire in 1905. And, remarkably, it still stands:




The story of man and house are here: wilshireboulevardhouses
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2013, 7:46 PM
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I've been trying, without success, to find the location of this early photograph.


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The description says lake but I'm not so sure. Could it be a salt marsh?

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Old Posted Aug 26, 2013, 8:19 PM
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originally posted by Beaudry. -looking down Commercial St. from Main, circa 1961


That fragment of architectural ornament caught my attention. Does anyone have information on this building?
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A noirish LA Stage show for 1913

This postcard of female impersonator Julian Eltinge [1881-1941] advertising his appearance at Los Angeles’ Mason Opera House in October 1913.

The photo shows him in “The Fascinating Widow,” one of his most famous cross-dressing roles.

The LA newspaper writer Mr. Warnack seems to be rather enthusiastic concerning his performance...."something good at last".

Aside from the graceful femininity he exhibited onstage, Eltinge used a super-masculine facade in public to combat the rumours of his homosexuality. This facade included the occasional bar-fight, smoking cigars, and drawn out engagements to women (though he never married). He was also known to physically attack stagehands, members of the audience and others who remarked on his sexuality. Indeed, his sexual duality led to the creation of the term "ambisextrous" to describe him.

By the time Eltinge arrived in Hollywood, he was considered one of the highest paid actors on the American stage; but with the arrival of the Great Depression and the death of vaudeville, Eltinge’s star began to fade. He appeared in several Hollywood films.




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Old Posted Aug 26, 2013, 10:39 PM
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Nice post CBD, he was truly an interesting character.

-You can see his house in Silver Lake here.
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2013, 10:42 PM
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[QUOTE=CityBoyDoug;6245217][SIZE="3"]This postcard of female impersonator Julian Eltinge [1881-1941] advertising his appearance at Los Angeles’ Mason Opera House in October 1913.

Eltinge even had a Broadway theater named after him -- the Eltinge on 42nd Street. It was built in 1912 and renamed the Empire in 1954. Part of the theater still exists as the lobby and lounge of the AMC Empire 25 multiplex.
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2013, 11:50 PM
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Here's another establishment that I have never heard of before. (the last one was Travaglini's on Sunset)


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The address is a bit vague.
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Here's another establishment that I have never heard of before. (the last one was Travaglini's on Sunset)


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Remembering a time when Wilshire Boulevard's sidewalks were bordered by grass.

Discovered a '29 listing for two dentists, JD and JR McCoy at 3839 Wilshire Blvd., Room 300. By '32 they were listed in room "301." http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...dentists-contd


Office photos are presumptively from the interior of 3839 Wilshire address, circa '28. Looks to be on second or third floor. This would have been a few doors east of the oft mentioned Wilshire Professional Bldg. (3875). Close to the northeast corner of Manhattan Place and Wilshire. Note that many sources locate the Wilshire Pro Building at 3825, which, of course, would turn my geography around. The building's front entrance is currently marked "3875." Why others confuse it with "3825" is a mystery which perhaps someone can illuminate.




1926 - Fabulous Wilshire looking west from Manhattan Place. St. James' ongoing construction? A glimpse of residences prior to Wilshire Pro Building's construction?
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics19/00009293.jpg




1927 - Viewing Manhattan Place from Wilshire
http://jpg2.lapl.org/spnb2/00017565.jpg



1926 - The former Temple EManuEl (639 Manhattan Place). To the left, a residence/dental office?
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00081/00081607.jpg


1978 - to the right (north) of former temple-now church is a period residence. It has been described as a church parsonage. Landscaping may have changed, but it's still around.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00090/00090189.jpg


1927 - Address not provided. Said to be Sister Aimee McPherson's residence on Manhattan Place, after leaving the Angeleus Temple Parsonage.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics10/00024567.jpg


1932 - Nice Area. What time does Perino's close?
http://waterandpower.org/1%20Histori...fessional2.jpg


1935
http://waterandpower.org/1%20Histori...rch_ca1935.jpg


1937

http://waterandpower.org/1%20Histori...fessional3.jpg


Focus on bottom right of photo, building "hidden" behind the "Garage" Sign
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...5BE28XQ8XQ.jpg

Same focus
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2770/4...d2c753f4_b.jpg (Thank you Vokoban)


1942 - Wilshire and Manhattan Place. (Office to far right?)
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics09/00014194.jpg




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Sadly, window views are too overexposed to provide much information. Roofline? Palm fronds?

1928 - (Well equipped office. Does a Dentist need a scale, except to determine dosages?)
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...R63122URSH.jpg


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...NPUF25AH9J.jpg



http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...CLDNKJ3HMF.jpg




http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...NM7U65PLR4.jpg




http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...XJ6VXCKTPI.jpg



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Wilshire Professional Building, a height-limit structure designed particularly for physicians and dentists, will be built on the northeast corner of Wilshire Boulevard and St. Andrews Place. Announcement of the project was made last week by Wright & Becker, Wilshire Boulevard brokers. Construction on the structure is slated to begin April 1, the Shell Oil Company having made arrangements to vacate the property on March 31.
The plans, as prepared by Arthur E. Harvey, architect, call for thirteen stories of Class A construction. A basement garage will handle cars of all the lessees. High-speed elevators, water softeners, running ice water, steam heat, are included in the specifications.
(Sept. 22, 1929) - The Wilshire Professional Building, just west of Western avenue, will be formally opened on October 1, next, according to the announcement of its owners. Vokoban - http://www.flickr.com/photos/vokoban/4261114134/
Undated LA Times ad, previously posted on the thread.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2733/4...f1613191_o.jpg



1978
A gas station to the east of the Wilshire Professional Building. Could it have been Exxon?
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00090/00090193.jpg



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Nice post CBD, he was truly an interesting character.

-You can see his house in Silver Lake here.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1086
Do look into Avery Willard's Female Impersonators to read of Francis Renault who essentialy replaced Eltinge as a Zeigfield showgirl fashionplate- Played to enthusiastic mostly female audiences nationwide (even at the Fonda Theater on Hollywood Blvd during WW2) Souce : Queermusicheritage blog
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I've been reading this thread for months now after having accidentally discovered it in a quest for what late 1940s L.A. looked like to refresh my memory from a summer of 1947 vacation that our family took across New Mexico, Arizona, and Southern California. I was a ripe 5 years old at the time but thanks to a near photographic memory there were many things from that trip running around in the old noggin. At the very least, this thread has to be an astonishing pictorial history of Los Angeles accompanied by facts probably long forgotten by lifetime residences of the City. Thanks to all of you.

Later, I'll be posting concerning the theater at 1735 Vine, now known as the Avalon. The building itself belongs to a very close friend of ours who acquired it as the Palace Theater in lieu of legal fees. Did you guys know there is a connection between it and the Knickerbocker? Or that it is supposedly haunted? This theater may have the most colorful past of all the remaining theaters from Hollywood's glittering past. Actually our friend is a bit of an interesting character, having been at times Merv Griffin's tennis partner and a skeet shooting buddy of Charlton Heston. At one time she even chaired the Walk of Fame Committee. I digress!
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I've been reading this thread for months now after having accidentally discovered it in a quest for what late 1940s L.A. looked like to refresh my memory from a summer of 1947 vacation that our family took across New Mexico, Arizona, and Southern California. I was a ripe 5 years old at the time but thanks to a near photographic memory there were many things from that trip running around in the old noggin. At the very least, this thread has to be an astonishing pictorial history of Los Angeles accompanied by facts probably long forgotten by lifetime residences of the City. Thanks to all of you.

Later, I'll be posting concerning the theater at 1735 Vine, now known as the Avalon. The building itself belongs to a very close friend of ours who acquired it as the Palace Theater in lieu of legal fees. Did you guys know there is a connection between it and the Knickerbocker? Or that it is supposedly haunted? This theater may have the most colorful past of all the remaining theaters from Hollywood's glittering past. Actually our friend is a bit of an interesting character, having been at times Merv Griffin's tennis partner and a skeet shooting buddy of Charlton Heston. At one time she even chaired the Walk of Fame Committee. I digress!
Thanks Retired for the nice post. LA of 1947 was very different from what she is now-a-days. Back then the city streets were crowded with the clang-clang of street cars. People smoked everywhere. There were no freeways or homeless people [well hardly any]. Oh, I almost forgot, there were many drive-in restaurants. Today they're down to just a few and even then those only operate on certain evenings.

Also one thing else...the cars had real red glass taillights....today, everything is plastic.
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Potter Park III

I've posted twice before about the area bought in the mid-1880s by Alonzo Potter, bounded by Francisco (then More) and Figueroa (then Pearl), and by 7th and 8th. Potter lived in a home there and built Potter Park Avenue -- later 7th Place -- in the middle of the property.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=12197

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13409

But I hadn't been able to find a photograph of the property -- until now:

LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics22/00030879.jpg

The above photo is undated but was taken no later than early 1887, looking SE from 7th and Francisco at (1) the Potter home, (2) a little plus-sign-shaped building, (3) the house on the SW corner of Pearl and 8th, and (4) the 8th Street School on the NW corner of 8th and Grand.

We can confirm these things by looking at the 1888 Sanborn Map; that's More/Francisco on the left and Pearl/Figueroa on the right:


Both the 1887-or-earlier photo and the 1888 map have the same plus-sign-shaped building (2) and the two-story house on the SW corner of 8th and Pearl with a porch on the east side and a one-story section on the west side (3). The photo shows the Potter home (1) without the northern addition it has in the map.

We know the photo shows the 8th Street School (4) at the NW corner of 8th and Grand because, well, it's in the right spot and it looks like it:

LAPL -- http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics13/00026141.jpg


1888 Sanborn @ LAPL

Eighth Street School was apparently built around 1876 or 1877 (the lot was donated June 1, 1875 -- http://books.google.com/books?id=LA0...ngeles&f=false AND http://books.google.com/books?id=A2g...weixel&f=false).

And we know the photo can't be any later than early 1887, because it doesn't show three-story Los Angeles College, which opened in 1888 and later became the Abbotsford Inn (http://urbandiachrony.wordpress.com/...s-c-1908-2013/), on the SW corner of 8th and Hope:

LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/00081/00081400.jpg


1888 Sanborn (Pearl-Flower-Hope) @ LAPL

Potter -- er, excuse me, Professor Potter -- first appears on Pearl Street in the 1883 LA City Directory; here he is in the 1884 LA City Directory (633 Pearl would become 745 Figueroa):

1884 LA City Directory @ Fold3.com

Fast-forwarding to Feb 14, 1959 for a view of the same area, we look SW at Potter Park Avenue, renamed 7th Place, with mostly parking on the north side of the street. Facing north on the west end of the block at the corner of Francisco, the large building with the columns is the Schermerhorn/Beck at 942, then to the east it's the Aberdeen at 936, the Melville/Covington/Wolbert at 930, and the Potter Park Villa/Woodhaven at 928:

UCLA Digital Library -- http://digital2.library.ucla.edu/vie...198/zz0002q5vx

I guess the location of the little plus-sign-shaped building from the pre-1888 photo would have been approximately in the back of the Potter Park Villa/Woodhaven.
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Found this a couple of days ago...


Alameda and Los Angeles Streets, 1943

Wonderful shot of a familiar intersection from a bit of an unusual angle. Looking southwest towards La Plaza and the Civic Center from N. Alameda (foreground), slightly south of where it crosses Los Angeles Street (seen crossing at right, behind the White Log Coffee Shop). Marchessault Street is seen crossing left to right in front of the Dragon's Den. Seen are the Dragon's Den, a glimpse of the Baker Block on Main Street, City Hall, the U.S. Post Office and Federal Courthouse, the headquarters of the Southern California-Arizona Conference of the Methodist Church (in what later became the Biscailuz Building), and a White Log Coffee Shop. Photograph dated September 8, 1943. Great picture.

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And several shots of the intersection from the Union Station concourse...


Union Station parking lot, 1943

Cars and travelers outside of Union Station. Beyond the station parking lot (center) and across N. Alameda Street, are the Dragon's Den (upper left), the U.S. Post Office and Federal Courthouse (upper left), the Los Angeles County Hall of Justice, and the headquarters of the Methodist Conference Center and the Los Angeles Railway Plaza Substation. Three billboards are present on Alameda Street. Photograph dated September 8, 1943.

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Union Station parking lot, 1943 (2)

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Union Station parking lot, 1943 (3)

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