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[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by citydwlr

With that being said, why can't they do what they are doing with Tremblay station (and I believe Rideau station) and add a subtitle of "LeBreton" or "Chaudière" or "Booth"?!

From the Sun;

Manconi said the city might look at attaching a wayfinding name, like its doing at Rideau station with ByWard Market and Tremblay station with Via Rail.

However, Manconi said "we have to be very respectful of Pimisi and its name" and there is no immediate plan for a wayfinding moniker.

http://www.ottawasun.com/2013/08/21/no-more-lebreton-pimisi-oked-as-lrt-station-name

[bartlebooth]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

To me it's not about honouring LeBreton or anyone else. The whole point of naming a transit station is to have a geographically accurate name; tell people where they are.

If you want to honour a person, aboriginals or whatever, by naming/renaming something, name streets/bridges (new or existing with a generic name) or buildings. Bloess suggested renaming one of the islands Pimisi, now that would had made sense.

I am more interested in the process of trying to reference a people or time before European settlement because it is part of this really interesting place and I find it doesn't get recognized that often. I guess it could be after as well with the Ahearn example I mentioned earlier - he was physically born in the LeBreton Flats area so that would both geographically relevant and interesting historically. Anyway, I don't want to defend Pimisi to the death because I'm not in love with it but I don't hate it and the anger it has brought out in people I have spoken with in general is a bit much I find. You bring up good points and it makes for interesting discussion

[citydwlr]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

From the Sun;

http://www.ottawasun.com/2013/08/21/no-more-lebreton-pimisi-oked-as-lrt-station-name

I guess I missed that article! Thanks for posting it!

[eemy]

I wish Ottawa had done what Montreal did when they built the metro and have different architects design each station. It would have been more expensive, but the results would have been far more spectacular and each station would be very distinctive. Unfortunately I'm not sure a scheme like that would work anymore with the way entire projects are tendered out to private consortiums.

In any case, it's a small regret - from what I can tell, the stations look quite nice all things considered.

[S-Man]

Wasn't it Thomas Ahearn and not LeBreton (if that is the case wouldn't Ahearn Station be better as a name then LeBreton especially when you consider that fact that Ahearn was also involved in establishing the Ottawa Electric Railway Company)? He is credited by some as inventing the first electric oven.

Regardless, don't we already have a LeBreton Street in Ottawa? There is a LeBreton Gallery in the Canadian War Museum, and then there is LeBreton Flats. I am not trying to diminish his achievements (his military activities are most interesting to me) but I feel like his name is recognized in this city. I do not believe that by changing the name of this station we are wiping this part of our history off the map.

This site has a rich and interesting history both before and after LeBreton. It is also of particular importance to the Algonquin people so why not include them in this process. I don't see the problem with Pimisi as a name and as I said before, I really do not get all of the outrage.

I was referencing Ahearn. Canada's Edison. It's too bad so few people know about him. Technological achievements that have benefited the world don't seem like a thing Ottawa wants to recognize. And Lebreton Flats was a hotbed of technology and innovation.

But, it wasn't the government's doing (private labourers tinkering - oh no!), and it's not about culture, so it doesn't fit the 'functional museum' thing Ottawa and the NCC has been trying to build for 60 years.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

From the Sun;



http://www.ottawasun.com/2013/08/21/no-more-lebreton-pimisi-oked-as-lrt-station-name

However, Manconi said "we have to be very respectful of Pimisi and its name" and there is no immediate plan for a wayfinding moniker.

I have to say when I read this the expression "PC CHILL" popped into my head immediately. Sadly.

[eternallyme]

Is there a street in Ottawa named Pimisi anywhere? Someone else mentioned that some legitimacy could be gained by renaming an orphaned Wellington Street section as Pimisi Street...

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by eternallyme

Is there a street in Ottawa named Pimisi anywhere? Someone else mentioned that some legitimacy could be gained by renaming an orphaned Wellington Street section as Pimisi Street...

I don't believe so. Renaming that random Wellington would help somewhat, but LeBreton or Booth would still make way more sense. They'll have to pile on and name a future condo or office tower "Pimisi" IMO.

[Kitchissippi]

I suppose the park could be renamed Pimisi Park.

Personally I think J.R. Booth deserves the honour of the station name. Not only did he own much of the lumber yards in LeBreton Flats during its heydays, he was also responsible for the Canada Atlantic Railway which used run through the Flats.

Canada Atlantic Railway yards in 1893. I think that's Christchurch on Sparks in the distance:


Booth Street used to be called Bridge Street, and Canada Atlantic Railway used to have a station there, probably right where the LRT station is:

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

I suppose the park could be renamed Pimisi Park.

Personally I think J.R. Booth deserves the honour of the station name. Not only did he own much of the lumber yards in LeBreton Flats during its heydays, he was also responsible for the Canada Atlantic Railway which used run through the Flats.

Bluesfest Park or the one between the condos and escarpment?

I would have been fine with Booth station since the station will be under Booth, a main artery. Also, Booth did a lot to build Ottawa into a world class city with his lumber factories, high quality office buildings (Transportation, Jackson, Booth Building...) and I'm sure a whole lot more I don't know about.

If anything the theme of LeBreton station should have been "Ottawa's Lumber Industry".

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by jeremy_haak

I wish Ottawa had done what Montreal did when they built the metro and have different architects design each station. It would have been more expensive

Why would it have to be more expensive?

Dear architect:

Here's your budget. Be original, and don't 🞵🞵🞵🞵.

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by S-Man

The cynical part of me half expects the gutless bunch to turn Billings Bridge Station into Slutwalk Station and convert Bayshore to Idle No More Station.

Next stop: Slutwalk. Prochain arrêt : Défilé des plottes.

[Acajack]

Apparently the NCC is getting on OC Transpo's case because Tunney's Pasture is not a bilingual name. And the city is telling them to take a hike.

FYI I do not think I have never heard a francophone say ''Pré Tunney'', though I've seen it written down of course. And I speak French 95% of the time or more living and working where I do.

[waterloowarrior]

Shouldn't Bayview be renamed "Bayview/Vue sur la Baie"? And maybe we should use the English pronunciation of Saint instead of "san" to make sure no one is offended that we switched the punctuation to the French version.

[Kitchissippi]

Tunney's Pasture = Pimisi West/Ouest
Bayview = Pimisi Centre
LeBreton = Pimisi East/Est

Problem solved!

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

Tunney's Pasture = Pimisi West/Ouest
Bayview = Pimisi Centre
LeBreton = Pimisi East/Est

Problem solved!

Correction;

Bayview = Centre Pimisi Center


Seriously, Tunney's should be Holland which might also promote the fact that it is near Wellington West and Holland, an actual all around destination, not just a big, bland, boring, grassy government campus.

If they want honour the damn Algonquins with Pimisi with a name on a transit station (again, makes no sense; transit station=geographically significant name, this is not rocket science, it is the most logical, no arguments needed thing ever), it should be Bayview that gets a name change since it has most generic name on the Confederation Line.

[S-Man]

Definitely a stand-in placeholder for a former, polluted railyard is a better candidate for renaming than what was once a thriving community/centre of industry/innovation.

I wouldn't have minded the name Booth, either ("what a silly thing to name a station!" - Jim 'I'm a Reasonable Guy Until I'm Not' Watson).

J.R. Booth was the Elon Musk of his day, and did indeed help modernize (prosperitize(?)) Ottawa in the latter half of the 18th century.

As for Tunney's, who cares about what the NCC thinks. The Gatineau workers who jam the scenic vibrating grass parkway every morning and night know where they work.

[Acajack]

Why does the NCC have a say or think it has a say in this?

[citizen j]

If they're looking for something bilingual, perhaps the city could rename Tunney's Pasture to pay homage to its symbiotic relationship with the federal government and its crown corporations like the NCC. Douche is an option. Or perhaps they're thinking of holding onto that name for one of the stations further west along the contested route between Dominion and Lincoln Fields.

[gjhall]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Why does the NCC have a say or think it has a say in this?

Use of federal lands & federal funding, I would think.