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Old Posted Aug 20, 2013, 4:28 PM
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It is obvious that the conversation was lost on you. The reason we were disagreeing with Kevin is simply because he made false statements: especially the part when he wrote that "Obama's...declaration [is] that Phoenix will be a mecca for the country's most impoverished people" and that low-income individuals were being "pushed" into other neighborhoods. You didn't understand what the disagreement was in the first place, instead going on a tangent by stating that the President was "suggesting" Phoenix-specific remedies. That is what I was addressing in terms of your comments.
You can find Obama's initiative here. His trip to Phoenix was part of this push, although he did not directly address it in his speech, he did speak about it.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/con...ape-neighborhoods-with-housing-diversity
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2013, 4:36 PM
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So I'm silently cruising the forums at 1:32 AM (Japan time) and I come across this....
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=...173.40554.166813453454520&type=1&theater

And our wish has come true. Looks awesome!
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2013, 4:44 PM
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That looks great! Love the street side seating and the corner entry!

     
     
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2013, 4:50 PM
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That looks great! Love the street side seating and the corner entry!

Is this where 1st ave splits from Central at Roosevelt, looking southbound?

If so, that's an awesome use of land and exactly what Central Phoenix needs more of.
     
     
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Wow, that is a great looking building! Good find!
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2013, 5:15 PM
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Now THAT's what I'm talking about! Great looking building and a perfect use of the lot. It makes that great stretch of Roosevelt even better.

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Old Posted Aug 20, 2013, 5:19 PM
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Is this where 1st ave splits from Central at Roosevelt, looking southbound?

If so, that's an awesome use of land and exactly what Central Phoenix needs more of.
Yep, that's the spot.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2013, 5:26 PM
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That is a great find and a great use of space and land use!!!!
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2013, 5:30 PM
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It not only is a great use of space, it also ties in with the urban fabric in the area.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2013, 6:08 PM
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That looks great! Love the street side seating and the corner entry!

Haha, nice! Yesterday we were discussing this and today they post this rendering on their Facebook page. They are calling it Union at Roosevelt. I was hoping the developer would incorporate brick into the building to complement the neighborhood. I love how it is built up to the sidewalk and it would be nice if the finished product is exactly this. Could use a little more height , perhaps 2-4 more floors, but overall it is a great addition for Roosevelt.

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Old Posted Aug 20, 2013, 7:38 PM
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perhaps 2-4 more floors, but overall it is a great addition for Roosevelt.
That would be nice, but that lot is pretty small and you'd likely need to provide more space for parked cars and that would get tricky.

The rendering looks fantastic, quite frankly, I'm floored. The size, the way it presents itself to the corner, the materials, A+ all the way around.

In additional good news, I've heard Matt Seaman is trying to get the city to ditch the extra auto lane on 1st Ave south of his lot. There are 3 southbound lanes on 1st Ave, and thats really not needed. When that lane was shut down for the YMCA expansion, there was no increase in traffic. Apparently Seaman and SCC worked with the Y to put up cameras to monitor the traffic, that way streets can't come back and say "we need that lane or it'll be an auto nightmare!"

So the obvious thing to do there is a bike lane and parallel parked cars, which would be great. Apparently Seaman has all the land owners on board, with the exception of one, the Circle K on 1st Ave/Fillmore.

Rumor has it that the Circle K wants to buy the lot directly to the East, knock the building down, and build the huge super pumper station that we stopped them from building on 7th St/Roosevelt.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2013, 7:54 PM
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That would be nice, but that lot is pretty small and you'd likely need to provide more space for parked cars and that would get tricky.
They could use light rail credits and downtown's Urban Form Code, which basically eliminates the need for parking if a developer so chooses, to address parking concerns. This neighborhood is one of the most pedestrian and bike friendly in metro Phoenix and right across the street from light rail. I think it has more to do with expense and I bet they will be building a concrete base for parking and a wood/brick frame for the higher floors. If they were to build a taller structure it would likely need to be poured concrete, like RoPo, which would add to the cost. I hope I am wrong and it is all poured concrete because it would be much easier to upgrade and renovate in the future.

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So the obvious thing to do there is a bike lane and parallel parked cars...Rumor has it that the Circle K wants to buy the lot directly to the East, knock the building down, and build the huge super pumper station that we stopped them from building on 7th St/Roosevelt.
It would be great if 1st Ave were to be put on a road diet with parallel parking and a bike lane. The Circle K wants to knock down which building? East of Circle K is 1st Ave, west of the Circle K is an older building. However, they won't be getting permission to built a larger gas station in that area of downtown ... they are out of their minds.

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Old Posted Aug 20, 2013, 8:14 PM
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That would be nice, but that lot is pretty small and you'd likely need to provide more space for parked cars and that would get tricky.

The rendering looks fantastic, quite frankly, I'm floored. The size, the way it presents itself to the corner, the materials, A+ all the way around.

In additional good news, I've heard Matt Seaman is trying to get the city to ditch the extra auto lane on 1st Ave south of his lot. There are 3 southbound lanes on 1st Ave, and thats really not needed. When that lane was shut down for the YMCA expansion, there was no increase in traffic. Apparently Seaman and SCC worked with the Y to put up cameras to monitor the traffic, that way streets can't come back and say "we need that lane or it'll be an auto nightmare!"

So the obvious thing to do there is a bike lane and parallel parked cars, which would be great. Apparently Seaman has all the land owners on board, with the exception of one, the Circle K on 1st Ave/Fillmore.

Rumor has it that the Circle K wants to buy the lot directly to the East, knock the building down, and build the huge super pumper station that we stopped them from building on 7th St/Roosevelt.
Not trying to give you a hard time but directly to the east of that Circle K is the Westward Ho. Did you mean the lot directly north?
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2013, 8:19 PM
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Not trying to give you a hard time but directly to the east of that Circle K is the Westward Ho. Did you mean the lot directly north?
The lot directly north is a parking lot owned by Phoenix College. North of the parking lot is Phoenix College Downtown. I believe he meant west of the Circle K. I noted the discrepancy in the post before yours.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2013, 9:11 PM
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It would be great if 1st Ave were to be put on a road diet with parallel parking and a bike lane. The Circle K wants to knock down which building? East of Circle K is 1st Ave, west of the Circle K is an older building. However, they won't be getting permission to built a larger gas station in that area of downtown ... they are out of their minds.
Im sorry, I typed East but meant West. Its that little building right behind the Circle K Minimart that they apparently have their eyes on.

At least thats what was explained to me. I suppose they could try to acquire land from PC Downtown (seems unlikely) and expand to the north, which then wouldn't require any demolition. But I doubt PC Downtown is selling.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2013, 9:58 PM
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Im sorry, I typed East but meant West. Its that little building right behind the Circle K Minimart that they apparently have their eyes on.

At least thats what was explained to me. I suppose they could try to acquire land from PC Downtown (seems unlikely) and expand to the north, which then wouldn't require any demolition. But I doubt PC Downtown is selling.
I know what building you are talking about now...it isn't the prettiest but having a huge Circle K in that neighborhood would be awful. What is it with that company wanting such a huge footprint in the urban center of Phoenix? Of course profit is their motivator but this needs to be put to an end by Phoenix. The city needs to make it clear that a Super Circle K that would basically take up 1 or 2 whole city blocks is not appropriate.

Wasn't there some talk of Phoenix College expanding their downtown campus? Or did that pertain only to their main campus? If PC Downtown expanded it would be problematic for Circle K and great for the area.

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The above posts have been cleared. Anyone who posts on Obama this or poverty that will get suspended.

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Old Posted Aug 20, 2013, 11:26 PM
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In that case you forgot one...first post on this page.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 21, 2013, 2:47 AM
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So, is this project the real deal? And, definitely starting construction by EOY? Super excited if that's the case. The building looks fantastic. A couple more floors would've been ideal since we need all the residents we can cram into downtown, but what a great addition to downtown and Roosevelt. The historic renovation just east is also making progress- any timeline or news on a tenant? Sorry if I missed that.

I know the MetroWest development was trying to nab Postino; now that that's a definite no, any rumors on the retail portion? I believe it was Matt Seamann who was had been quoted that he was hoping to attract local businesses. Can we tell from the rendering how many spots are on the ground level- 2?

This building shows that you can do urban residential right if you have the vision. Such a shame that Roosevelt will be bookended by this fabulous project and the offensive RoPoint to the east.

As for Circle K, they are truly evil. If only the ciy could make some kind of land swap deal with them, or allow their horrible monster station at the least hurtful location with the stipulation they clean up the grounds of the former site and covert it for public use: park, basketball court, tennis court, dog park, monument memorial, etc.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 21, 2013, 3:26 AM
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So, is this project the real deal? And, definitely starting construction by EOY? Super excited if that's the case. The building looks fantastic. A couple more floors would've been ideal since we need all the residents we can cram into downtown, but what a great addition to downtown and Roosevelt. The historic renovation just east is also making progress- any timeline or news on a tenant? Sorry if I missed that.
This project is real, the rendering is new and I believe it was posted today. There hasn't been any change in the project's timeline. I wrote earlier that 2-4 more floors would have been perfect for this location. No word on a tenant or how many would fit along the ground floor but it is big enough to support a few. The point of this mixed-use TOD was to incorporate live/work/play so I am assuming there would be some office space as well as retail.

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