Atlanta Project Thread IV

[smArTaLlone]

Originally Posted by arjay57

Thanks, smArTaLlone.

What would that typically translate to in height, 25-30 stories?

Depends on the shape of the building and size of the units. Novare's Skyhomes are typically 23-stories and 320 units while the new Park Avenue is 39-stories with 296 units.

I also learned that Phipps is getting a facade makeover as well.

[smArTaLlone]

BuckheadView

Simon Property Group had confirmed in June its intent to build a high-rise residential tower at the back of the Lenox Mall property it owns near Bloomingdale’s department store and was working with Miami-based developer The Related Group on the project.

The total project will consist of two high-rise residential towers—Phase 1 to be 400 feet in height and Phase 2 to be 450 feet in height—with a total of 750 one-, two- and three-bedroom units in the two buildings. Phase 1, which is the only one under present consideration will have 374 units.

[nature's calling]

Hoping at least the first phase materializes and gets built.

[SwimAtl]

Originally Posted by smArTaLlone

BuckheadView

I really like this design. Very contemporary and progressive - hope it gets built!

[bryantm3]

i've looked at this a hundred different ways, and it looks like this is where it will be, assuming the bloomingdale's building in the illustration is the one that is currently there.

http://goo.gl/maps/y5hA8

apparently it will take place of a parking deck that's already there, and will essentially be an extension of lenox square.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

i've looked at this a hundred different ways, and it looks like this is where it will be, assuming the bloomingdale's building in the illustration is the one that is currently there.

http://goo.gl/maps/y5hA8

apparently it will take place of a parking deck that's already there, and will essentially be an extension of lenox square.

Bryant, if it the same project that was approved for the Related Group before, it will be on the SW corner of Simon's property, bounded by GA 400 and East Paces Ferry. (near the Lenox station).

I think it is just a construction staging area now and/or maybe a branch bank. I don't know how to draw it on your map.

[TothebackofPhipps]

Why in gods name, are they not putting these towers fronting the mall on either side of the entrance, in the empty parking lots? They could have incorporated street level retail and it would have added significantly to the area.

As for being at the back of the mall, this is lost opportunity. For as long as I have lived area, I have considered this no mans land. I can't imagine anyone wanting to live back there with all the other luxury developments in more visually appealing areas.

[bryantm3]

Originally Posted by arjay57

Bryant, if it the same project that was approved for the Related Group before, it will be on the SW corner of Simon's property, bounded by GA 400 and East Paces Ferry. (near the Lenox station).

I think it is just a construction staging area now and/or maybe a branch bank. I don't know how to draw it on your map.

i figured it would be over there like you said, but if you look at the configuration of the bloomingdale's department store on the illustration, it puts it where a parking deck currently exists.

i also heard about a similar development occuring at the intersection of roxboro and e paces ferry.

@TothebackofPhipps— it appears that the development will include some ground level retail, and from the drawing it indeed looks like it will back right up to the mall, unless they plan on relocating bloomingdale's.

[atlantaguy]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

i also heard about a similar development occuring at the intersection of roxboro and e paces ferry.

Yeah, that's a whole different deal, where Related had planned CityPlace.

This site is now controlled by Wells Fargo, and they have very impressive plans of their own. The last thing I heard was that the surrounding neighborhoods had bought into what they plan there, which is pretty rare! It includes parks and some pretty impressive urbanesque development...

[smArTaLlone]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

i figured it would be over there like you said, but if you look at the configuration of the bloomingdale's department store on the illustration, it puts it where a parking deck currently exists.

i also heard about a similar development occuring at the intersection of roxboro and e paces ferry.

@TothebackofPhipps— it appears that the development will include some ground level retail, and from the drawing it indeed looks like it will back right up to the mall, unless they plan on relocating bloomingdale's.

The Bloomingdale's sign in the rendering is on the parking structure of the proposed tower NOT the actual department store. Obviously they wanted to take advantage of the visibility from 400 but the developers were informed that this would probably not be allowed since it would be considered off site advertising.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by atlantaguy

Yeah, that's a whole different deal, where Related had planned CityPlace.

This site is now controlled by Wells Fargo, and they have very impressive plans of their own. The last thing I heard was that the surrounding neighborhoods had bought into what they plan there, which is pretty rare! It includes parks and some pretty impressive urbanesque development...

There was an article in the Atlanta Business Chronicle the other day that said AMLI had two of these parcels under contract.

Buckhead, Atlanta’s hottest market for new apartments, is poised to get the city’s largest project in the recent multifamily boom.

Chicago-based AMLI Residential has under contract two pieces of land at Roxboro and East Paces Ferry roads in Buckhead. Several years ago, the land was going to be developed as an over-the-top $2 billion condo project.

Today, the property remains one of intown Atlanta’s largest undeveloped tracts.

AMLI likely would develop 800 to 1,000 apartment units on more than 7 acres. The land is viewed as a prime multifamily site because of its location near Lenox Square mall and the Lenox MARTA station.

More...AMLI puts Buckhead parcels in play

[bryantm3]

Originally Posted by smArTaLlone

The Bloomingdale's sign in the rendering is on the parking structure of the proposed tower NOT the actual department store. Obviously they wanted to take advantage of the visibility from 400 but the developers were informed that this would probably not be allowed since it would be considered off site advertising.

well, where is the tower going to be, then? i drove by that stretch tonight and the marshalling yard or whatever it is, is too small to hold a building that size, let alone a new parking deck. unless it's over by where tower records used to be (shops around lenox), they're going to have to take out a parking deck or two from the mall.

[smArTaLlone]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

well, where is the tower going to be, then? i drove by that stretch tonight and the marshalling yard or whatever it is, is too small to hold a building that size, let alone a new parking deck. unless it's over by where tower records used to be (shops around lenox), they're going to have to take out a parking deck or two from the mall.

The "marshalling yard" is exactly where it will be as you can see from the presentation last week. Note the location of GA 400 and E Paces Ferry in the site plan.

It appears that they plan to relocate a section East Paces Ferry around the project and take up most of the triangle in the linked Google Maps image. It also looks like Phase II will be on the other side of the parking structure with fewer units per floor due to the smaller footprint. That explains why phase II will be taller despite having less of units.



https://maps.google.com/maps?q=lenox+mal...=0,0,1004265071320959420&num=10&t=h&z=18


http://www.buckheadview.com/2013/08/new-lenox-mall-apartment-development-is.html

[bryantm3]

wow, that's an impressive land use for a lot that small— i stand corrected. i still am disappointed that it won't be attached to the mall— i was hoping for a hyper-urban tokyo style development.

[Inman Parker]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

wow, that's an impressive land use for a lot that small— i stand corrected. i still am disappointed that it won't be attached to the mall— i was hoping for a hyper-urban tokyo style development.

What is a "hyper-urban tokyo style development"?

[bryantm3]

Originally Posted by Inman Parker

What is a "hyper-urban tokyo style development"?

i guess that's about as specific as you can get without making a whole lot of sense. excuse me, i'm tired today.

what i meant was sort of like how peachtree center is laid out, where you have the mall in the center, but instead of being surrounded by parking lots and decks, it's combined with high rise office space and residential towers that are basically extensions of the mall, meaning they're in the same building.

i always thought it would be cool if lenox square developed into something like that, a combination live-work-play supercomplex with the marta station at the core, where you could potentially exit the train and meander around through interconnected buildings to shop, stay at a hotel, watch a movie etc., without having to go outside, all the way up to peachtree road.

they have subway stations that are connected to things like that in tokyo, so that's why i used that reference.

[smArTaLlone]

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2013/08/14/hotel-planned-near-georgia-aquarium.html

A new hotel near the Georgia Aquarium has been proposed.

Plans were filed Aug. 7 in Atlanta for a seven-story hotel on roughly an acre of land that’s catty-corner to the aquarium at Ivan Allen Boulevard and Luckie Street. Parking and valet company Ameripark owns the property, according to Fulton County records. Ameripark CEO Chip Patterson declined to comment on the project.

The nearly 110,000-square-foot lodging would have about 150 rooms, meeting space and a restaurant. It likely would be branded a Hyatt House, according to a project summary submitted to the city.

[ATLswede]

Current Capitol parking deck likely to be demolished to create a public gathering space:

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/blog/...65800944def9dfc6133b7f73a94&t=1376594567

[smArTaLlone]

http://www.buckheadview.com/

Conerstone Development Partners plans to break ground in October on a 208,835-square-foot office and retail building at 1895 Peachtree Road N.E., at the corner of Peachtree and Collier roads, which will be named Conerstone Medical Center, according to Showcase.com.

The split-level four- and eight-story building, which is scheduled to open in the summer of 2014, will be across Peachtree Road from Piedmont Atlanta Hospital and will apparently replace the existing Peachtree Road Liquor Store, which is flanked by Chic-fil-a and Peachtree Cleaners.

[arjay57]

That looks terrific for a medical building.

The rendering may just be conceptual but I hope they don't have a big parking lot out front. Surely they'll have to bring the building up to the street?