The Great Canadian Skyline Thread! II - Page 292

Beedok · #**5821** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 4:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by kw5150

There is something really awesome about having a giant building respectively sitting on the edge of a beautiful river valley.....gets me every time. Is Edmonton the only city in Canada with this many examples of building clinging to the sides of an escarpment? It is a crazy look, feeling and experience.

Ottawa slightly has that, a bit on the West end of the Downtown and a lesser amount along the Rideau River. Hamilton also has Concession street, though I think that only includes 2 highrises and a handful of midrises.

caltrane74 · #**5822** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 5:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by travis3000

I was looking on the Emporis database last night to see what cities in North America have the most skyscrapers (defined as buildings over 100m/328ft) . I'm sure everyone in here has been on this site many times. I was intrigued at a few things:

-Canada has five cities on the list... Mississauga (19), Montreal (32), Vancouver (47), Calgary (51), and Toronto (169)

-Toronto is 3rd on the list in North America after NYC (582), and Chicago (289) which to be honest didn't surprise me much

-The difference is huge between third place Toronto (169) and fourth place Miami (79)

-With the planned additions of both Herald Sq buildings, Telus Sky, the new Manulife building, City Centre 1, Eighth Ave Place, and Kings On Fourth, plus a few other buildings that materialize in the meantime, by 2020 Calgary will easily break the 60 barrier which, depending on growth of these other cities, could take it ahead of Los Angeles (56), Atlanta (56), and Honolulu (59). Regardless, Calgary will remain a strong 2nd for the most skyscrapers in Canada and potentially move from #10 in North America to about #7 or #8 over the next decade.

-With literally dozens upon dozens of "100m+ skyscrapers" currently under construction or proposed in Toronto, the current number of 169 is sure to increase drastically between now and the next decade. TO will def exceed the 200 number by that time and in my opinion will hit Chicago's numbers by about 2030 or perhaps a bit later. Because Chicago is still adding to their skyline, I think TO will remain at #3 for the foreseeable future.

-I was actually pretty shocked how low Montreal was. When you are in the city, you get the idea that it's bigger than it really is. At only 32 structures above 100m, Montreal ranks 17th in North America. It's probably the excellent street layout and urban feel as well as the mixed use of old churches, historical buildings, and skyscrapers that gives the illusion that the city is actually taller than it is.

How often do they update this list? Do they count a building once it's 100% completed, topped out, or do they include buildings under construction? Either way, I found the data very interesting and am super stoked to see how this list changes over the next 10-20 years as Canada continues it's building boom .

Miami is closer to Toronto then Toronto is to Chicago.

Of course the gap between Miami and Toronto is gonna blow up soon. Once all these projects are marked as complete.

franktko · #**5823** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 5:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by travis3000

I was looking on the Emporis database last night to see what cities in North America have the most skyscrapers (defined as buildings over 100m/328ft)...

You'll enjoy this site that tracks all buildings over 90m to give a "skyline score" to cities:
http://tudl0867.home.xs4all.nl/skylines.html

Chadillaccc · #**5824** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 5:15 PM**

Kind of a weird list. Calgary is #2 in Canada and #49 in the world according to them?

I wouldn't put us that far ahead of Vancouver... Vancouver is #62 and Montreal #64.

Nice to see Canada with 4 cities in the top 70 though!

Airboy · #**5825** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 5:17 PM**

Edmonton from the other bank.

U of A Main Campus

and 4 bridges (Menzies, Highlevel, Walterdale and the new Walterdale.

caltrane74 · #**5826** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 5:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by franktko

You'll enjoy this site that tracks all buildings over 90m to give a "skyline score" to cities:
http://tudl0867.home.xs4all.nl/skylines.html

I remember, many, many years ago, when Toronto was just inside the top 10 on that very online listing.

lol! - We moved past Jakarta last year.

isaidso · #**5827** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 9:54 PM**

There are also these lists I compiled on another site for 100m+ Buildings:

Completed

Hong Kong 2354
Shanghai 847**
Shenzhen 800**
New York 685
Tokyo 450
Bangkok 392
Guangzhou 360**
Manila 320
Dubai 306
Chicago 295
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Chongqing 226
Seoul 210
Guangzhou 194
Kuala Lumpur 190
Singapore 180
Toronto 179
Beijing 172
Jakarta 169
Sao Paulo 143
Osaka 141
Mumbai 131
Tianjin 131
Nanjing 124**
Sydney 107
Istanbul 101
Miami 98
Dalian 93
Moscow 86
Houston 83
Busan 82

Vancouver 57
Calgary 55
Montreal 40
Edmonton 15
Niagara Falls 5
Ottawa 5
Winnipeg 5
Hamilton 2
London 1
Windsor 1

** Not to roof height and estimates with no documentation to speak of

isaidso · #**5828** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 9:57 PM**

Under construction

Manila 197
Mumbai 136
Tianjin 86
Bangkok 77
Toronto 75
Istanbul 58
Hanoi 43
New York 40
Tokyo 40
Singapore 31
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Shenyang 30
Hyderabad 27
Shenzhen 27
Moscow 25
Kuala Lumpur 23
Bangalore 22
Surabaya 21
Tokyo 21
Chennai 20
Chongqing 20
Kiev 20
Melbourne 20
Dubai 19
Saigon 19
Jakarta 18
Kolkata 18
New Delhi 16
Cebu 16

Vancouver 13
Calgary 4
Montreal 4
Edmonton 2
Halifax 1

isaidso · #**5829** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 9:59 PM**

Proposed

Toronto 133
New York 118
Manila 113
Melbourne 88
London 66
Tokyo 59
Bangkok 58
Tianjin 47
Mumbai 39*
Shenzhen 35
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Chicago 32
Vancouver 31
Sydney 30
Nanjing 27
Jakarta 26
Hyderabad 25
Wuhan 22
Shenyang 20
Frankfurt 19
Istanbul 19
Cebu 18
Chongqing 18*
Los Angeles 18
San Francisco 18
Guangzhou 16
Seattle 15
Singapore 15
Warsaw 15
Miami 14
Ahmedabad 13

Calgary 10
Montreal 10
Edmonton 5
Niagara Falls 4
Ottawa 2

1ajs · #**5830** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 10:00 PM**

view from place lious riel were i am curently working

isaidso · #**5831** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 10:01 PM**

A very rough look at what might be in 5-6 years.

Completed, Under construction, Proposed

Hong Kong 2,360
Shanghai 869**
Shenzhen 862**
New York 843
Manila 630
Tokyo 549
Bangkok 527
Guangzhou 387**
Toronto 387
Chicago 335
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TOP 10 (for now)
Dubai 331
Mumbai 306*
Chongqing 264*
Tianjin 264
Seoul 231*
Singapore 226
Kuala Lumpur 224
Jakarta 213
Melbourne 188
Beijing 182
Istanbul 178
Osaka 165
Nanjing 159
Sao Paulo 156
Sydney 146
Shenyang 128
Miami 122
London 117
Dalian 116
Wuhan 112
Moscow 111
Hanoi 109
Vancouver 101

Calgary 69
Montreal 54
Edmonton 22
Niagara Falls 9
Ottawa 7
Winnipeg 5
Hamilton 2
Halifax 1
London 1
Windsor 1

TownGuy · #**5832** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 10:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by isaidso

Under construction

Manila 197
Mumbai 136
Tianjin 86
Bangkok 77
Toronto 75
Istanbul 58
Hanoi 43
New York 40
Tokyo 40
Singapore 31
Shenyang 30
Hyderabad 27
Shenzhen 27
Moscow 25
Kuala Lumpur 23
Bangalore 22
Surabaya 21
Tokyo 21
Chennai 20
Chongqing 20
Kiev 20
Melbourne 20
Dubai 19
Saigon 19
Jakarta 18
Kolkata 18
New Delhi 16
Cebu 16
Shanghai 15
Sao Paulo 13
Vancouver 13

This one is pretty neat. Toronto right up there with the super boom Asian cities. The proposed one is nice but doesn't exactly mean a ton.

isaidso · #**5833** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 10:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by TownGuy

This one is pretty neat. Toronto right up there with the super boom Asian cities. The proposed one is nice but doesn't exactly mean a ton.

Agree about the proposed list, but it's fun to ponder regardless. I have to mention that the Chinese data was very hard to come by and not all that reliable. Some cities like Shenzhen likely have far more under construction than is listed. Mumbai, Istanbul, Hanoi, and Manila surprised me the most.

kw5150 · #**5834** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 11:11 PM**

Some aerials from: http://peakexperienceimagery.com/

kw5150 · #**5835** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 11:12 PM**

and another.....

http://peakexperienceimagery.com/

caltrane74 · #**5836** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 11:40 PM**

Toronto right there at the top going toe-to-toe with the booming Asian Cities.

That's so Crazy!

isaidso · #**5837** Posted **Aug 8, 2013, 12:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

Toronto right there at the top going toe-to-toe with the booming Asian Cities.

That's so Crazy!

I thought you might like that. We've done fabulously well even if the boom fizzles out right now.

Razor · #**5838** Posted **Aug 8, 2013, 3:52 AM**

^ And that last pic of Calgary is probably up there with with my favourites..Great angle and nice shot!..If that skyline looks this good now, I can only imagine Calgary when it eventually hits over 2.0 million.

giallo · #**5839** Posted **Aug 8, 2013, 4:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

Toronto right there at the top going toe-to-toe with the booming Asian Cities.

That's so Crazy!

As impressive as TO's boom is (and it is impressive), it's still far behind Chinese cities like Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Wuhan, Hangzhou, Nanjing, Chengdu, Shenyang, Chongqing. They are so undercounted (as isaidso already stated), it almost makes comparisons like this pointless.

isaidso · #**5840** Posted **Aug 8, 2013, 4:07 AM**

Calgary promises to look fabulous. More importantly, the quality of architecture is taking a massive jump.