[Halifax] Citadel Halifax Redevelopment | 3X49 m | 18-16-16 fl | Completed

[OUIR@random]

Originally Posted by haligonia

They would have stiff competition from Pete's though, and buyers on the Peninsula seem to favour local independents over chains (even though the option isn't always there ).

Yes, but yuppies, hipsters, artists and the like are still more attracted to this brand than other chains and it certainly has more panache than Sobeys or Loblaws.
They have stuff that Sobeys, Loblaws or Pete's will never have, I'm sure these 3 chains don't want Whole Foods over here...

[RyeJay]

bluenoser: Nice angle!!

[ILoveHalifax]

I used to shop at Wild Oats in S Florida. When Whole Foods arrived, I never found any reason to switch. Bought edible flowers there but nothing else that I could not get at Wild Oats.
I much prefer Pete's for quality, service and good pricing.

[Nifta]

Originally Posted by OUIR@random

Yes, but yuppies, hipsters, artists and the like are still more attracted to this brand than other chains and it certainly has more panache than Sobeys or Loblaws.
They have stuff that Sobeys, Loblaws or Pete's will never have, I'm sure these 3 chains don't want Whole Foods over here...

I think Pete's and Whole Foods are pretty similar; Pete's has a pretty excellent range of quality foods. Would be nice to see a Whole Foods downtown, but not sure this is the right place for it. Maybe if there was a large unit in one of the new Mary Anne/Sisters block, that would be a good place?

I don't really think that Whole Foods is just for hipsters and yuppies, and I think it's sad that the idea of 'good food' is still seen as something that only the rich should care about! I'm all for any food store that devotes more shelf space to actual food than the endless aisles of chips, soda and candy you see in Superstore/Sobeys

[kph06]

I think a mobile crane is situated in back of the middle building today, presumably to take down the first tower crane this weekend.

[Jonovision]

Sad to see it go.

[Nifta]

The first two towers have topped out now. But they're starting to raise up the third tower now

[kph06]

One from today:

[the1drunkduck]

Here a couple of the Citadel site en route to Rush


Jul 12 - Rush in Halifax 8004 by the1drunkduck, on Flickr


Jul 12 - Rush in Halifax 8009 by the1drunkduck, on Flickr


Jul 12 - Rush in Halifax 8010 by the1drunkduck, on Flickr


Jul 12 - Rush in Halifax 8012 by the1drunkduck, on Flickr

[Aya_Akai]

Originally Posted by the1drunkduck

Here a couple of the Citadel site en route to Rush

It seems you, Wishblade and I all attended the same show!

To be frank, now these are coming together... I'm not at all impressed with how they are looking :\ .. maybe they'll look better with the rest of the facade cladding materials up and some glass.. but right now that's nothing like I was expecting from the renderings...

[beyeas]

Originally Posted by HaliStreaks

It seems you, Wishblade and I all attended the same show!

To be frank, now these are coming together... I'm not at all impressed with how they are looking :\ .. maybe they'll look better with the rest of the facade cladding materials up and some glass.. but right now that's nothing like I was expecting from the renderings...

yeah I had just looked at the thread for 3473 Dutch Village, and by comparison to that building when I flipped to this thread and looked at the latest pics it was just a bit of a yawn of more red brick.

[haligonia]

For me, these buildings are about a 7/10 so far. I like them; there's definitely some bland aspects of the design that could have been improved, but overall they add good density, address the street quite well and seem to be of a decent quality. I think that the brick looks a lot better than something like precast would.

[Drybrain]

Originally Posted by haligonia

For me, these buildings are about a 7/10 so far. I like them; there's definitely some bland aspects of the design that could have been improved, but overall they add good density, address the street quite well and seem to be of a decent quality. I think that the brick looks a lot better than something like precast would.

Yeah, I don't know what all the hate for brick is about. It's got some texture, at least.

The actual architectural achievement here isn't anything too amazing, vis-a-vis the design, but I think it actually looks better than the renderings, which threatened a very dull, pale sort of colour scheme.

These aren't going to end up being landmark buildings, by any stretch, but they never were, going back all the way to the initial design. They look about as good as could have been expected.

[someone123]

Some of the nicest streets have a a lot buildings that would be considered just okay if they were by themselves, surrounded by a bunch of concrete bunkers and parking lots. Similarly there are lots of dysfunctional modernist towns where every building was supposed to be monumental and architecturally exciting.

I like that Halifax has some interesting stuff like the library and then some background buildings like these. To be honest, I even kind of like the red brick style. It's better than concrete and lots of cities now have too much blue glass.

It would be nice to see a few more developments of this scale below Granville Street between Sackville and the seaport. The Bank of Canada proposal and Cunard are two new examples and Bishop's Landing is an older one, but that area needs about a dozen of them.

[Nifta]

It's fine for me. I'm happiest of all about the street-level retail/commercial that's going in. It means the street may have some reason to walk along it now; rather than just being a street to get to somewhere else. It'll add to the sense of life in the city. Previously that street has always felt like a desert. I'm pretty happy with it, and I actually find the buildings themselves okay. If they had a slightly more interesting roof; rather than just ending in a perfect rectangle, I'd be happier. But they're far better than what was there before.

[counterfactual]

Originally Posted by someone123

Some of the nicest streets have a a lot buildings that would be considered just okay if they were by themselves, surrounded by a bunch of concrete bunkers and parking lots. Similarly there are lots of dysfunctional modernist towns where every building was supposed to be monumental and architecturally exciting.

I like that Halifax has some interesting stuff like the library and then some background buildings like these. To be honest, I even kind of like the red brick style. It's better than concrete and lots of cities now have too much blue glass.

It would be nice to see a few more developments of this scale below Granville Street between Sackville and the seaport. The Bank of Canada proposal and Cunard are two new examples and Bishop's Landing is an older one, but that area needs about a dozen of them.

I've been following this board for a while, and am now finally getting around to posting, etc. Been a fan of your work here on the SkyScraper Pages, Someone123, and agree here too, I don't mind the brick design at all.

That said, I would be a LOT more excited if Citadel was a *residential* development. Would be awesome to get a development of this scale and size located right there in the downtown, bringing a few hundred more units and some more life to downtown core.

But I suppose that is all water under the bridge.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by someone123

Some of the nicest streets have a a lot buildings that would be considered just okay if they were by themselves, surrounded by a bunch of concrete bunkers and parking lots. Similarly there are lots of dysfunctional modernist towns where every building was supposed to be monumental and architecturally exciting.

I like that Halifax has some interesting stuff like the library and then some background buildings like these. To be honest, I even kind of like the red brick style. It's better than concrete and lots of cities now have too much blue glass.

It would be nice to see a few more developments of this scale below Granville Street between Sackville and the seaport. The Bank of Canada proposal and Cunard are two new examples and Bishop's Landing is an older one, but that area needs about a dozen of them.

I agree!

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by counterfactual

That said, I would be a LOT more excited if Citadel was a *residential* development.

Maybe I'm misreading your comment and you already know this, but it will partially residential unless that has changed from the original plan.

http://www.citadelhotelmakeover.ca/

The new site will feature a total of 316 rooms in two hotels and an apartment building with approx. 130 units. The complex will also include a restaurant, retail space and conference facilities.

[OUIR@random]

Originally Posted by Nifta

I don't really think that Whole Foods is just for hipsters and yuppies, and I think it's sad that the idea of 'good food' is still seen as something that only the rich should care about! I'm all for any food store that devotes more shelf space to actual food than the endless aisles of chips, soda and candy you see in Superstore/Sobeys

I never said only, but those groups do love Whole Foods, and well-off, affluent people in general... but yes, they will rather go there than Sobeys or Loblaws.
Go to a Whole Foods in the States and you will see many, many Prius cars in their parking lots...and those people probably love Apple and being Democrats.
In any event, looking at a parking lot, says alot about who shops there...

[worldlyhaligonian]

Well, to me it looks better than the renderings and the 18 story alone is mindblowing for Halifax.

No problems with this development... but I'd really like to see the Trinity go up... until that time there is alot of empty space in the area.

This plus Nova Centre alone will be a big help for downtown. And to think, Armoury Square used to be a big project. Can't wait to see Halifax next fall.