Ford: A real "cracker"?

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Originally Posted by niwell

cracker - the racial epithet that offended nobody ever.

Until today.

[BIMBAM]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

That's what I assumed, as the term is hardly obscure. I suppose we'd use "trailer trash" more often but "cracker" carries a lot of baggage, at least in some parts.

On the other hand, I thought the tread title was a bit amusing.....

Interesting. I'd honestly never heard of this racial epithet, I assumed it was just a word for crackhead.

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[rousseau]

We're in Canada. "Cracker" is a soda cracker or a good thing. Go ahead, do an informal poll of people you know. Ask them: Can you tell me what a cracker is?

The answer, 99 times out of a 100: It's what you put on cheese on or add to your soup.

This so-called "poor white trash" thing might be something someone dipping into some Skoal after a satisfying meal of grits and hush puppies and biscuits and gravy might be familiar with, but we're in Canada.

It's totally bizarre for anyone on this board to think that I was using such an obscure racially-charged epithet in relation to the mayor of the city of Toronto. I mean...c'mon.

[sync]

maybe it's a west/east thing...but the word cracker to me, when used derogatorily, was the equivalent of calling a black person the n word.

and that's exactly how i read it in the thread title.

i feel like some may be being purposefully obtuse about the word's meaning.

[FrankieFlowerpot]

Speaking as an Irish person - the first thought I had when I read the title was to do with race.

[Bdog]

Originally Posted by Migs

Tin foil hat much?

Accusing others of conspiracy theories? This can't be the same Migs, who 2 years ago was telling us about his inside connections with key players intent on bringing a retractable roof dome stadium to Regina. The same Migs who told us bidding wars for naming rights were going on and that big private investors were lined up. I miss old "done deal" Migs... Can't be the same guy.

[Deepstar]

First thing I thought of when I saw the thread title was Cracker = Crack Cocaine user. I never even related it to the southern US term 'Cracker'

Originally Posted by rousseau

We're in Canada. "Cracker" is a soda cracker or a good thing. Go ahead, do an informal poll of people you know. Ask them: Can you tell me what a cracker is?

The answer, 99 times out of a 100: It's what you put on cheese on or add to your soup.

This so-called "poor white trash" thing might be something someone dipping into some Skoal after a satisfying meal of grits and hush puppies and biscuits and gravy might be familiar with, but we're in Canada.

It's totally bizarre for anyone on this board to think that I was using such an obscure racially-charged epithet in relation to the mayor of the city of Toronto. I mean...c'mon.

[Pavlov]

Originally Posted by sync

maybe it's a west/east thing...but the word cracker to me, when used derogatorily, was the equivalent of calling a black person the n word...

I can only conclude that you are completely and purposely oblivious to the history of this continent.

[sync]

Originally Posted by Reesonov

I can only conclude that you are completely and purposely oblivious to the history of this continent.

ok then.

[Gresto]

Originally Posted by Reesonov

I can only conclude that you are completely and purposely oblivious to the history of this continent.

You concluded erroneously. "Cracker" and "honky" are indeed among the epithets some blacks use(d) for whites. I find them humorous rather than offensive, and I've never seen another white person react as if either of those words were a grievous affront. Regardless, the OP undoubtedly had innocent intentions, so shouldn't we put this pointless tangent to rest?

[matthew6]

Originally Posted by Gresto

You concluded erroneously. "Cracker" and "honky" are indeed among the epithets some blacks use(d) for whites.

Along with 'peckerwood'

[kool maudit]

and it all ends in vague charges of racism. how canadian.

[Tony]

Originally Posted by Migs

So because he is the mayor of Toronto excludes him from coaching high school football? —? Sorry but I think the Argos already have a head coach. Unreal that some would try and diminish a man who coaches inner city kids sports. Fascinating what people will say when they have an obvious agenda.

AGAIN, you've fully demonstrated you haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about. The issue isn't that he helps coach a high school football team.. it's When and How that's the problem.

The guy does it when he's suppose to be in city council and committee meetings, when he's suppose to appear in court... WHEN HE'S GETTING PAID BY THE TAXPAYER.

Then he goes ahead and uses publicly funded resources for this volunteer gig: Mayor's office staff, a City of Toronto leased vehicle etc...

Dude, seriously, — out. It's so clear to everyone you don't know the facts, don't want to know the facts and are just trolling.

[freeweed]

Originally Posted by rousseau

This so-called "poor white trash" thing might be something someone dipping into some Skoal after a satisfying meal of grits and hush puppies and biscuits and gravy might be familiar with, but we're in Canada.

For the record, this made me laugh out loud. Quite loud in fact. For the record, if you think "hush puppies" are a brand of shoes, you have no business being offended by this thread's title.

I think a few folks here are watching just a few too many Chris Rock videos, and trying just a bit too hard to feel a kinship with our American brethren.

While I'm certainly aware of the racial implications of the term "cracker" - I can say with authority that I've never in my entire life in Canada heard anyone actually use it in this context. Not in a derogatory sense, and not in any other sense either - unless they were having a chuckle about the latest Chris Rock stand-up routine. But no Canadian in my presence has ever actually used "cracker" to refer to white people. It's just simply never been part of our lexicon.

Next up - Canadians on this forum getting offended if I joke around with the word "chav". Followed by "naco". And a dozen other epithets that have never actually been used by any Canadian, and we're only aware of thanks to entertainment media.

Hmm. Remember those old commercials for eggs? "Let's get crackin!" I wonder if those have some secret racial meaning if you pretend you're from Mississippi.

[freeweed]

Originally Posted by kool maudit

and it all ends in vague charges of racism. how canadian.

Oh, it's not vague at all. It seems to be pretty overt.

And hilarious, in this instance.

For the record, I'd be curious to know the "race" (whatever that means these days) of the person who created the thread title. Perhaps we have a slave descendent among us.

[khabibulin]

Originally Posted by earl69

Ford is a total d-bag, but what is funny is that he will emerge from this relatively unscathed, run for re-election and most likely win again.

And that is the biggest irony of all!

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by khabibulin

And that is the biggest irony of all!

And folks in the Toronto core will be throwing themselves from the roof of the Toronto Star (or Mop and Pail, or CBC) building!

[Migs]

Originally Posted by Bdog

Accusing others of conspiracy theories? This can't be the same Migs, who 2 years ago was telling us about his inside connections with key players intent on bringing a retractable roof dome stadium to Regina. The same Migs who told us bidding wars for naming rights were going on and that big private investors were lined up. I miss old "done deal" Migs... Can't be the same guy.

I was saying the same thing the Sk Minister of Enterprise and 100% of city council was saying, unfortunately the retractable roof option fell through. Don't forget I was also the first one who said (3 months before the media broke the story) that the new stadium was going to now be built on the Evraz Place grounds, and whatta ya know, that's where it's going.

[Migs]

Originally Posted by Tony

AGAIN, you've fully demonstrated you haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about. The issue isn't that he helps coach a high school football team.. it's When and How that's the problem.

The guy does it when he's suppose to be in city council and committee meetings, when he's suppose to appear in court... WHEN HE'S GETTING PAID BY THE TAXPAYER.

Then he goes ahead and uses publicly funded resources for this volunteer gig: Mayor's office staff, a City of Toronto leased vehicle etc...

Dude, seriously, — out. It's so clear to everyone you don't know the facts, don't want to know the facts and are just trolling.

If your biggest problem with your mayor is when he coaches inner city kids sports, methinks its you who's got the issues.