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from today's T&T

(Free Meeting House) renovated
Thursday, May 30, 2013
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By: James Foster

Moncton's Free Meeting House will soon be available again to community

Moncton's 1821 Free Meeting House is looking its age again - in a good way - after undergoing its most significant renovation in more than two decades.

As anyone might imagine, restoring a house that is almost 200 years old presents a unique set of challenges. Those challenges were multiplied in this case thanks to the house's unique purpose, to serve all denominations for their religious services, meaning the structure incorporates certain aspects that were not typical for the era in which it was built.

'When these different religious groups used it, they would use it for sometimes weeks, sometimes months and sometimes years,' City of Moncton heritage and culture co-ordinator Lawren Campbell explains.

'And sometimes each would configure it in their own way.' So it wasn't as if Rice Contracting Ltd., which carried out the $140,000 project, could simply copy from a similar renovation project.

The house was extensively renovated back in 1990 when Moncton residents Lloyd and Brenda Parsons led the charge to bring the house back as close as possible to its original state. Their efforts succeeded, with the restoration being the main element in why the building was deemed a National Historic Site shortly thereafter. This most recent renovation was aimed at restoring it to the condition it was in back in 1990 and it is an understatement to say that Campbell is pleased about the success, from the contractors milling the wood used in the renovation so that it mimics the original wood, to Rice's efforts to meticulously match the bright yellow paint that distinguishes the building.

The project was funded by the city, province and, hopefully, the federal government though word on a grant from them has yet to be received. It required extensive study before getting underway and the work is true to the building's origins, from its new cedar roof to its newly repaired floor joists and support beams.

It also includes some innovative ideas for helping to keep the building safer from the elements, for example, eavestroughing to steer water away from the building that wasn't on the original house. They could have used modern eavestroughing, but Rice took pains to carve gutters out of cedar, and also attached them in such a way that they can be easily removed at any time without affecting the building or its ancient look.

Of course, any time you fix sagging floor joists, the building shifts and almost always the plastering cracks, so meticulous care was taken to restore even that aspect of the building to its original look, all researched beforehand to ensure the highest degree of accuracy possible.

As well, those inappropriate plastic-like coverings over the windows have been removed and the glass windows are back.

'It's as close to that 1990s restoration as the building has been in subsequent years,' Campbell says.

'There is nothing inappropriate in anything that has been done. It has been done far beyond our expectations. They really took that project to heart.' The Free Meeting House is one of Moncton's oldest standing public buildings, built in the style of a New England Meeting House without steeple, bell or cornerstone. Its purpose was to serve as a home for all religious denominations until such time as individual groups could raise the money required to build their own churches.

The south and rear of the site became a burial ground. The oldest stone, that of John Charters, is dated 1816. The most recent is dated 1876, being that of an infant, Merril Brown.

In 1964, Moncton city council took over the title of the building and carried out the repairs. The Free Meeting House was rededicated as a memorial to early settlers in 1966.

Campbell noted that when the new Transportation Discovery Centre and renovated Moncton Museum reopen in October, that entire city block along Mountain Road in the city's east end will be a focal point for the city's culture and history.

The Free Meeting House is not just a monument to the past but is often used as a venue of distinction for weddings and meetings. Rentals will resume in early June.
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Old Posted May 30, 2013, 11:13 PM
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Website for 1234 Main Street, which is the rebranded name for the Terminal Plaza office building being completely renovated by Crombie REIT.

http://1234main.ca/index.php

This is what they envisage the entrance to the renovated building will look like (from the website):


Original render (previously posted)


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Old Posted Jun 2, 2013, 2:17 PM
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It is nice to see development in the downtown. There are so many restaurants etc we need retail. OR is the retail sector in most downtown places just going to be a thing of the past with all the box stores
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The back now has many of it's windows installed along with the top row of the near side. It's coming along!
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Given the discussion in the Downtown events centre thread that the possibility exists of it not being built at the Highfield Square site, what would the site then be used for? Any thoughts?
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Given the discussion in the Downtown events centre thread that the possibility exists of it not being built at the Highfield Square site, what would the site then be used for? Any thoughts?
If RyeJay is correct, and the Highfield Square site is in trouble because of serious soil contamination issues, then this would be the kiss of death in terms of any significant private development of the site. It would likely become parkland....

Of course, I personally don't think that contamination at Highfield Square is a major issue, and that the events centre will eventually be built here. If not the events centre however, then the site would likely fill in with mixed use development of some form but this would take decades. Just look at the old CFB Moncton supply base. This was decommissioned back around 1990 and it will likely be 2017 or so before it is finally completely repurposed. That's more than 25 years! It will be even longer than that before the entire CN shops property gets repurposed.
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I'm not sure if anyone noticed but the old Colonial Inn has a new sign and it looks really nice, its now called V Hotel and Suites and they look like they are doing even more reno's.
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I'm not sure if anyone noticed but the old Colonial Inn has a new sign and it looks really nice, its now called V Hotel and Suites and they look like they are doing even more reno's.
Yes, I did notice and it looks GREAT!!!! It's definitely a backflip look from the old. I congratulate them for thinking outside the box.

I'll make sure to snap a pic and post it later today.
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Yes, I did notice and it looks GREAT!!!! It's definitely a backflip look from the old. I congratulate them for thinking outside the box.

I'll make sure to snap a pic and post it later today.
Looks like a nightclub not a hotel...
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from today's T&T:
http://22864.vws.magma.ca/index.php?&article_id=11165

New project coming to Victoria Street
Tuesday, June 04, 2013
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By: Brent Mazerolle

Architect balances philosophy with financial realities in development

A decades-long revitalization of Moncton's downtown mapped out by more than 100 community volunteers in a 2006 visioning exercise has been slowly paying dividends, and here comes another one.

A new building just approved by Moncton's urban planning department for the corner of Botsford and Victoria is the latest in a string of projects that are making the days of embracing any development just for the sake of downtown development a thing of the past.

One of the most important recommendations that came out of that community visioning exercise was that the city demand higher standards of urban design from developers. The city is looking for more than the typical vinyl-sided, four-storey, cookie-cutter-style apartment building these days, and the challenge for developers has been to find innovative ways to up their game while still making the numbers work for the banks that finance them. Those vinyl apartment buildings and big-box businesses may be bland, but their cost per square foot ratios make investors smile.

The three-storey, mixed-use building coming to Victoria Street will face south toward the side of St. Bernard's Roman Catholic Church, one of the city's most magnificent buildings. It will feature the ground floor commercial space the City of Moncton calls for in its downtown zone, as well as two upper floors of apartments.

Parking will be hidden behind and underneath the building, so that the streetscape is focused on the building, not an expanse of asphalt. Its siding won't be vinyl, and perhaps most interesting of all, the building's facade will include a work of public art, something few private developers have done in Moncton. The Caisse populaire at the corner of St. George Street and Highfield Street, and Cecil D's clothing store on Church Street are notable exceptions, but for the most part, in the absence of bylaws requiring public art that are common in other Canadian cities, Moncton's public art has tended to be funded by the municipality itself.

Perhaps most important of all, it won't look like a dozen other buildings around the city, because the plans have been designed locally rather than bought online.

In Cité Realty, whose name is a playful and classically Moncton blend of English and French, is the developer. Christian Hébert of Design Plus Architecture and Interior Design is the architect.

He said it was during his architectural studies in Montreal that he really came to appreciate the healthy aspect of urban living, something he's striving to capture in the new building where he will actually be one of the tenants.

'We found that living in the city, close to where we work, play and shop, was for us quality living,' he said.

It's not just about something as abstract and subjective as 'quality of life' either. It's about the increased fitness and better health that come from getting more of the daily exercise we don't always notice, the business of simply getting around under your own power. It's something he said he's particularly aware of because of his wife's work as a physiotherapist.

'She and most of the medical community now believe that regular exercise and eating well are the most effective treatment in preventing all the major illnesses - cancer, heart disease, diabetes and so on.' Hébert said that's nothing new, of course, but rather something old that's been forgotten as North American cities throughout the 20th century became increasingly designed around the automobile.

He recalled once seeing a documentary made by a school colleague that showed a typical suburban family getting into their cars inside a garage and heading off to work and school and appointments and shopping malls and the like, only to discover at day's end they've spent almost all of their day indoors.

The return to a dense and diverse downtown, where people most days can do the things they do without cars, is something Hébert and most civic leaders desire these days, and this latest development should reflect that.

for those of you with a short memory, this is the project that the article is referring to. I'm very glad to see that it has been approved:

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The three-storey, mixed-use building coming to Victoria Street will face south toward the side of St. Bernard's Roman Catholic Church
This is confusing, does this mean the back side of the building will be facing Victoria street? I was under the impression that this was going to be built on the empty lot on the same block as the church. Or are they planning on building it on the north side of the street facing south? Or maybe on a new east-west mid-block street adjacent to the church??
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I read that too, but common sense slapped me in the face and then realized Brent Mazerolle must have made a mistake. The front of the building must be facing Victoria.

Here the web site of Design Plus. http://www.designplus.pro/

Simplicity yet modern, just the way I like it.
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I read that too, but common sense slapped me in the face and then realized Brent Mazerolle must have made a mistake. The front of the building must be facing Victoria.

Here the web site of Design Plus. http://www.designplus.pro/

Simplicity yet modern, just the way I like it.
I am pretty sure that the building in question will be on the north side of Victoria Street, facing south, directly across the street from the vacant lot next to St Bernard's Catholic Church.

It would appear that the architects (Design Plus) are also responsible for the other infill condo project a little further west on Victoria Street as well.




We have a name now, this second project is tentatively called the Victoria Dwelling
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I am pretty sure that the building in question will be on the north side of Victoria Street, facing south, directly across the street from the vacant lot next to St Bernard's Catholic Church.
The north side of the street is a better location IMO. The empty lot could accommodate a much larger development. Also, the current project would have it's parking lot facing the historic church if it were to be on the south side.


Looks like the glass on Victoria Dwelling really is colored, that's a nice touch. Both these projects look great, hopefully they'll get started this year!
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I can't see it going up on the north side of Victoria. They would need to demolish 4 homes. Looking at the size of this project, I would prefer to have it facing Botsford. Seems like a perfect fit and keep the back end as surface parking...for now.

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I can't see it going up on the north side of Victoria. They would need to demolish 4 homes. Looking at the size of this project, I would prefer to have it facing Botsford. Seems like a perfect fit and keep the back end as surface parking...for now.
And the two homes at the north-east corner of Victoria & Botsford -- as lacklustre as they are -- are heritage properties, so they can't be torn down (without meeting certain conditions first).

Maybe the new building is small enough to fit into that empty parking lot behind those two houses.
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And the two homes at the north-east corner of Victoria & Botsford -- as lacklustre as they are -- are heritage properties, so they can't be torn down (without meeting certain conditions first).

Maybe the new building is small enough to fit into that empty parking lot behind those two houses.
Well, this should put this issue to rest.

This screen capture from the agenda for the May meeting of the Moncton PAC clearly shows that this project is scheduled for the northeast corner of the Botsford/Victoria intersection:



Better picture of what this building will look like:



I wonder if the architectural firm Design Plus is actually planning on moving into this building? Their banner figures prominently on one of the storefronts in the rendering......
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Well, this should put this issue to rest.

This screen capture from the agenda for the May meeting of the Moncton PAC clearly shows that this project is scheduled for the northeast corner of the Botsford/Victoria intersection:



Better picture of what this building will look like:



I wonder if the architectural firm Design Plus is actually planning on moving into this building? Their banner figures prominently on one of the storefronts in the rendering......
Wait - so they're actually tearing down 4 perfectly good homes to build this monstrosity?

...because Moncton obviously has a shortage of empty lots to build on, right?
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Wait - so they're actually tearing down 4 perfectly good homes to build this monstrosity?

...because Moncton obviously has a shortage of empty lots to build on, right?
It's only one house being torn down I believe. Please reference the Bing.com oblique aerial image above supplied by Budyser.

It isn't really a monstrosity. It's an avant garde small mixed use building which is going to help rejuvenate the neighbourhood. As NBNYer pointed out above, the large vacant lot across the street is better suited for a larger development.

pierremoncton has pointed out that the building to be demolished is a registered heritage property, which is a legitimate issue, but the architectural and historical merit of this building may be questionable. I don't know much about it's provenance so I can't really comment further.....
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I walked by the lot today, there is no way that house on the corner is Heritage, it has White Vinyl siding on it and when I looked inside it hasn't been well kept for recently having a business in it. So if anything it will be a god send to have it gone.

In my eyes it loses its Heritage Status as soon as someone puts vinyl siding on it... whats the point in designating something heritage and leave it there if its empty, it's just going to become another boarded up property that will sit empty till it becomes a fire hazard.
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