Tempe Development Thread - Page 189

phxSUNSfan · #**3761** Posted **May 25, 2013, 11:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Arquitect

That is indeed a pretty great height. About the same size as the Hub. It will look great right along the lake. I am really looking forward to seeing the design. My guess is that it probably won't be anything cutting edge (the firm mentioned tends to be more on the corporate look side), but should complement well with what is already there.

I am trying to find the reference, it has been a few years since I last read it, but Tempe had certain requirements for buildings along Town Lake. I'm not sure if it was actually city code or regulations like downtown Phoenix's Urban Form Code, but I believe it may have been. Tempe wanted all the buildings to have design elements that would incorporate aesthetics of Hayden Ferry Lakeside.

TempeSilverFox · #**3762** Posted **May 26, 2013, 9:11 PM**

I just saw this article about Argo at Town Lake. I hope the project looks just like this- I think it's pretty sweet looking!!!

http://azbex.com/lennars-new-multifamily-unit-to-build-first-complex-on-the-lake/#

MegaBass · #**3763** Posted **May 26, 2013, 11:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by TempeSilverFox

I just saw this article about Argo at Town Lake. I hope the project looks just like this- I think it's pretty sweet looking!!!

http://azbex.com/lennars-new-multifamily-unit-to-build-first-complex-on-the-lake/#

Whoa... Triangleplex.

phxSUNSfan · #**3764** Posted **May 27, 2013, 1:39 AM**

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Whoa... Triangleplex.

Yeah, not bad...that sail theme, like the triangles, is supposed to carry over into other developments around the lake. It is supposedly part of a plan to help blend in all new development with the "waterfront" motif (a nod to the small sailboats you see all over the lake).

phxSUNSfan · #**3765** Posted **May 27, 2013, 3:12 AM**

According to the Phoenix Business Journal, the State Farm Headquarters will mean that ASU loses 2,000 parking spots from lot 59N. To me, this is a good thing. The city, ASU, and companies need to encourage workers to take transit, carpool, live closer to work/school, etc...I think the pains will be relatively minor when all said and done. I see so many more people biking, walking, and taking light rail to work and school. Downtown Phoenix and Tempe just need these apartment and condo developments to increase the clip at which they are being built. Here is the article regarding the lost parking for students...this is another reason why ASU and Tempe are pushing so much new student housing around Apache and along College.

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news/2013/05/24/state-farm-development-lots-of-jobs.html

DevilsRider · #**3766** Posted **May 27, 2013, 4:56 PM**

From the Tempe City Council agenda for May 30th...It appears buildings A and E will be built above the parking. The agenda attachment says subterranian parking, but the picture makes it look like the parking may be above-ground with the buildings atop...

State Farm by DevilsRider, on Flickr

StateFarm2 by DevilsRider, on Flickr

phxSUNSfan · #**3767** Posted **May 27, 2013, 5:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by DevilsRider

From the Tempe City Council agenda for May 30th...It appears buildings A and E will be built above the parking. The agenda attachment says subterranian parking, but the picture makes it look like the parking may be above-ground with the buildings atop...

StateFarm2 by DevilsRider, on Flickr

Hard to tell from that rendering regarding the parking. I think the Tempe City Council might have a few issues with this conceptual design. It is much too square...just boxes sitting atop boxes. Not sure I like the look as is and it might not fit in along the lake.

MegaBass · #**3768** Posted **May 27, 2013, 7:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by DevilsRider

From the Tempe City Council agenda for May 30th...It appears buildings A and E will be built above the parking. The agenda attachment says subterranian parking, but the picture makes it look like the parking may be above-ground with the buildings atop...

State Farm by DevilsRider, on Flickr

StateFarm2 by DevilsRider, on Flickr

Really? That's their $600 million design?

cygnusloop99 · #**3769** Posted **May 27, 2013, 7:41 PM**

Am I the only one that read the City of Tempe press release, it says Davis is the architect for this project (who designed and operates out of Hayden's Ferry Lakeside). The renderings say Design Farm Studio, I can't even find a website for them, maybe its the internal planning team at State Farm?

Arquitect · #**3770** Posted **May 28, 2013, 1:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by cygnusloop99

Am I the only one that read the City of Tempe press release, it says Davis is the architect for this project (who designed and operates out of Hayden's Ferry Lakeside). The renderings say Design Farm Studio, I can't even find a website for them, maybe its the internal planning team at State Farm?

They are just a conceptual design. So they are often done by smaller firms just to throw out ideas, or get through preliminary reviews. I can guarantee that the final product will look much different.

MegaBass · #**3771** Posted **May 28, 2013, 2:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Arquitect

They are just conceptual a conceptual design. So they are often done by smaller firms just to throw out ideas, or get through preliminary reviews. I can guarantee that the final product will look much different.

Ah. ASU News mentioned:

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Design of the State Farm building is currently underway. The plan is for State Farm to gain first-phase occupancy in the first quarter of 2015.

BA744PHX · #**3772** Posted **May 29, 2013, 1:01 AM**

check out Davis website. They show a video/renderings for the W Phoenix it looks very recent with CityScape built in the background. Is it possible the W could be back?

http://thedavisexperience.com/home.php

TempeSilverFox · #**3773** Posted **May 29, 2013, 1:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by MegaBass

Whoa... Triangleplex.

Check this updated article out from AZRE! Sounds like the big steel sails will be fitted with LED color changing lights that will be visible from the freeway! ROCK ON!!!

http://azremagazine.com/new-market/summit-dck-commences-construction-argo-town-lake-lennar

TempeSilverFox · #**3774** Posted **May 29, 2013, 1:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by Daltnpapi4u

check out Davis website. They show a video/renderings for the W Phoenix it looks very recent with CityScape built in the background. Is it possible the W could be back?

http://thedavisexperience.com/home.php

That would be SUCH a cool addition to the downtown Phoenix skyline!

Arquitect · #**3775** Posted **May 29, 2013, 1:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by TempeSilverFox

Check this updated article out from AZRE! Sounds like the big steel sails will be fitted with LED color changing lights that will be visible from the freeway! ROCK ON!!!

http://azremagazine.com/new-market/summit-dck-commences-construction-argo-town-lake-lennar

That is pretty awesome. Hopefully this spurs more developments to have a public face towards Rio Salado. As of now, most projects turn its back to it (TCA, Hayden Ferry) or fence themselves off from it (The two condo complexes closest to the train tracks). I'm excited to finally see this project going somewhere after so many months of inactivity.

TempeSilverFox · #**3776** Posted **May 29, 2013, 1:53 AM**

This article gives a bit more info about the Marina Heights/ State Farm complex. The last paragraph also seems to indicate that we may be hearing more about an ASU/ Tempe hotel/ conference center soon!

http://azbex.com/state-farm-tempe-regional-hq-a-massive-600m-development/#

PHX31 · #**3777** Posted **May 29, 2013, 2:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by Daltnpapi4u

check out Davis website. They show a video/renderings for the W Phoenix it looks very recent with CityScape built in the background. Is it possible the W could be back?

http://thedavisexperience.com/home.php

Can someone post the rendering I'm the phx thread?

phoenixwillrise · #**3778** Posted **May 29, 2013, 4:55 AM**

Don't know if anyone else noticed, in the euphoria over this project, but the article in the AZ Bus Journal said something to the effect that ASU would purchase the part of the parcels they didn't own from Sunbelt Holdings for 15+million and then would lease the property to State Farm taking the fee upfront for the entire length of the lease for 10 million. HUH? So they are doing this deal for a 5 million dollar loss along with the property they already hold? Maybe the writer of the article meant to say 100 million. She also states in the article that it is not known what ASU intends to do with the money. Didn't they go on notice that they formed a sports district in this area to raise money for the stadium? Where do they find the people who write these articles or did I misread something?

nickw252 · #**3779** Posted **May 29, 2013, 5:27 AM**

Re: FUZZY MATH on Stat Farm Project in AZ BUS Journal

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Originally Posted by phoenixwillrise

Don't know if anyone else noticed, in the euphoria over this project, but the article in the AZ Bus Journal said something to the effect that ASU would purchase the part of the parcels they didn't own from Sunbelt Holdings for 15+million and then would lease the property to State Farm taking the fee upfront for the entire length of the lease for 10 million. HUH? So they are doing this deal for a 5 million dollar loss along with the property they already hold? Maybe the writer of the article meant to say 100 million. She also states in the article that it is not known what ASU intends to do with the money. Didn't they go on notice that they formed a sports district in this area to raise money for the stadium? Where do they find the people who write these articles or did I misread something?

Emphasis added.

Purchase ≠ Lease

Jjs5056 · #**3780** Posted **May 29, 2013, 10:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by Arquitect

That is pretty awesome. Hopefully this spurs more developments to have a public face towards Rio Salado. As of now, most projects turn its back to it (TCA, Hayden Ferry) or fence themselves off from it (The two condo complexes closest to the train tracks). I'm excited to finally see this project going somewhere after so many months of inactivity.

Yes, I absolutely agree. One of the most exciting aspects of this project was that it finally addressed Rio Salado. I had no idea some of the condos nearby were live/work; they weren't designed in an urban way at all. I understand that there is some grading issues, but having a nice connected experience with pedestrians between Beach Park and the TCA is really important, and as you mentioned, the existing built environment completely missed the mark. As gorgeous as the TCA is, does anyone know why it was built so suburbanly? I really wish they had gone with underground parking and incorporated public space at the top- it's a shame it it taking a developer on the other side to think about this. A space for food trucks, small bands, etc. for before shows (or even on the weekends) would have been great. At the very least, an above-ground garage and some retail would have been great. That sea of parking is just super unfortunate and is almost comcial given the proximity to the pedestrian bridge. At the least, retail should've been incorporated.

To whomever said city what's trianges/sails incorporated into lake development projects, I find that horribly tacky and hope it's untrue. Given the massive buidings projected to be built between Rural and Mill, the last thing we need is a row of similar, blue-glass triangular buildings.