ATLANTA | Development Thread V - Page 351

Barbarossa · #**7001** Posted **Apr 27, 2013, 7:24 PM**

Can palm trees grow in this climate? I know they can grow in places like Savannah. It would be nice if they could line the avenues with them, to give it that south Florida feel.

Frankster87 · #**7002** Posted **Apr 27, 2013, 11:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Barbarossa

Can palm trees grow in this climate? I know they can grow in places like Savannah. It would be nice if they could line the avenues with them, to give it that south Florida feel.

Why the hell would we want to give our signature streets a south Florida feel?

SwimAtl · #**7003** Posted **Apr 28, 2013, 1:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by Frankster87

Why the hell would we want to give our signature streets a south Florida feel?

that was my first reaction, but thinking more about it - Ponce de Leon; florida; palms - it could be interesting for a stretch of Ponce. Windmill and Cabbage palms will grow here well, but not the taller ones you see in Florida.

scania · #**7004** Posted **Apr 28, 2013, 1:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by Frankster87

Why the hell would we want to give our signature streets a south Florida feel?

It's not any worse than some of these people wanting it to be just like NY.

L41A · #**7005** Posted **Apr 28, 2013, 1:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by Frankster87

Why the hell would we want to give our signature streets a south Florida feel?

I agree. Atlanta should be its authentic self. There's plenty of beautiful foliage that is more native to North Georgia that would work much better.

gttx · #**7006** Posted **Apr 28, 2013, 1:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by scania

It's not any worse than some of these people wanting it to be just like NY.

Newsflash: it won't ever be like New York. I'm not even sure how you could make it more like New York, because the two places are so different in terms of scale, density, geography, history, and way of life.

If you mean some people want tall buildings, more density, better transit, etc....well, that isn't exactly something unique to New York. And Atlanta should (and could) have that. Heaven forbid it starts looking like South Florida, though.

bryantm3 · #**7007** Posted **Apr 28, 2013, 1:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by Barbarossa

Can palm trees grow in this climate? I know they can grow in places like Savannah. It would be nice if they could line the avenues with them, to give it that south Florida feel.

i don't know why you'd want a "south florida feel". maybe a coastal georgia feel? the types of palm trees that grow in south florida don't grow here— those are tropical palms, like spindle palms and royal palms:

however, many of the palm trees that are subtropical that grow in coastal georgia, can grow here also. here are some examples:

the windmill palm:

the sabal palm:

you will often see sabal palms "groomed" that look more like this:

the european fan palm:

and then there are some palms that grow very well on the georgia coast, but if you try to grow them here, you have to keep them warm in the winter or they will die.

the washingtonia palm:

and the sago palm (which is techically a cycad and not a palm— they are an ancient plant form that was around before flowering trees):

TarHeelJ · #**7008** Posted **Apr 28, 2013, 1:47 AM**

So...more palms for Atlanta? No thanks.

L41A · #**7009** Posted **Apr 28, 2013, 1:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by gttx

Newsflash: it won't ever be like New York. I'm not even sure how you could make it more like New York, because the two places are so different in terms of scale, density, geography, history, and way of life.

If you mean some people want tall buildings, more density, better transit, etc....well, that isn't exactly something unique to New York. And Atlanta should (and could) have that. Heaven forbid it starts looking like South Florida, though.

I couldn't have said it better. I don't get the feeling that folks on this forum or Atlanta in general wants to be just like New York.

Blueiguy84 · #**7010** Posted **Apr 28, 2013, 2:26 AM**

GTTX I mean no disrespect in saying this....

NEWSFLASH this is a construction thread...... I like to read and converse about construction not palm tress. Lets stay on topic

Blueiguy84 · #**7011** Posted **Apr 28, 2013, 2:29 AM**

GTTX I mean no disrespect in saying this....

NEWSFLASH this is a construction thread...... I like to read and talk about the construction and construction proposals for the Atlanta area. Since when did this thread become the Atlanta Landscape Thread.

Immovable_Media · #**7012** Posted **Apr 28, 2013, 2:33 AM**

Atlanta needs more bad ass 3-story murals dedicated to her famous citizens. Martin Luther King, Andrew Young, and maybe even Joel Chandler Harris... like this one of John Lewis I ran into yesterday:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9No5xL-A_q0

Quite a masterpiece IMO. It will look great from the Streetcar... which I must add is moving forward briskly. I walked the entire 2.5 odd mile loop yesterday, shot a lot of video and talked to a few construction workers. Bare with me, I have lots of information to process but a very substantial "Atlanta Streetcar" Update is on the way!!!

bryantm3 · #**7013** Posted **Apr 28, 2013, 4:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by TarHeelJ

So...more palms for Atlanta? No thanks.

one last note: there are a lot of palm trees around in atlanta, just most are on private property. they aren't indigenous to the area, but they are indigenous to parts of georgia further south. with the climate warming up, palm trees grow here better than they have in past years.

you can see palm trees in intown atlanta in neighbourhoods like cabbagetown and piedmont heights where people have planted them in prominent areas. i wouldn't be opposed to palm trees being used instead of the other non-shade trees commonly used such as holly and crepe myrtles when trees atlanta does its plantings.

back to construction— i know this is pretty far out, but does anyone know what is happening at the corner of haynes bridge road and north point drive? i figured it might just be another shopping center, but i'm hoping it's something a with a little more urban-oriented design.

CT340 · #**7014** Posted **Apr 28, 2013, 6:25 AM**

Soooo, no more highrise developments for Atlanta??!! Whats up with that? I feel like I should be seeing at least two developments in Atlantic station, one near the BOA building, and a new tallest building floating around in plans somewhere. At this rate we will never catch up to Chicago or NewYork.

Nanosolar · #**7015** Posted **Apr 28, 2013, 12:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by CT340

Soooo, no more highrise developments for Atlanta??!! Whats up with that? I feel like I should be seeing at least two developments in Atlantic station, one near the BOA building, and a new tallest building floating around in plans somewhere. At this rate we will never catch up to Chicago or NewYork.

+1

It seems like the developers in this town are slow to move and constantly miss market signals. Plus half of them only know how to build Wal-marts.

SwimAtl · #**7016** Posted **Apr 28, 2013, 2:24 PM**

My best bet sites for highrise construction: 1) Dewberry property 10th & Ptree; 2) vacant land on Ptree south of Ritz downtown with the marta 'entrance'; 3) Rooms to go site in Buckhead 4) Atlantic Station on north end of their property; 5) old Picard (?) Chilton site on Cent. Hill; 6) Dewberry 17th street property; 7) previous Mandarin site on Ptree in midtown; Would love to see a significant tower (800+) on any of those.

Libertarian · #**7017** Posted **Apr 28, 2013, 3:17 PM**

Skyscrapers are your daddy's caddy. These days its economy not ego.

WEZiegler · #**7018** Posted **Apr 28, 2013, 3:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by mikecolley

Two things I noticed today while biking:

Demolition of the Shell station on the corner of Peachtree St and Peachtree Cir.

Demolition of some of the Colonial Homes apartment buildings. Looks like they are clearing a piece of land next door to the Wesley Townsend Apartment building.

Anybody know anything about upcoming projects on these sites?

I meant to respond to this awhile ago, not sure what happened.....

I sent Dewberry an e-mail awhile back recommending they turn the shell station into Felini's, Taqueria Del Sol or something of the sorts. To which they responded that they had already signed a deal to reopen the gas station, but to make a lot of improvements. Supposedly it is more upscale with much more amentities, which isn't saying alot because the old store had about 20-30 things for sale. They've closed in from the front building to the car wash and poured the slab recently. At the end of the video you can kind of see the new cinderblock wall. Not sure of a target date.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj_mPu2W-9s

Also, I saw some site work on Northside Drive just south of Howell Mill Rd., near Local Three the restaurant. Any idea what this is?

I haven't heard anything about the new Buckhead high school recently, any idea when construction will be finished?

bobdreamz · #**7019** Posted **Apr 28, 2013, 4:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by gttx

Newsflash: it won't ever be like New York. I'm not even sure how you could make it more like New York, because the two places are so different in terms of scale, density, geography, history, and way of life.

If you mean some people want tall buildings, more density, better transit, etc....well, that isn't exactly something unique to New York. And Atlanta should (and could) have that. Heaven forbid it starts looking like South Florida, though.

Geez, the feeling is mutual in regards to Atlanta!

TarHeelJ · #**7020** Posted **Apr 28, 2013, 4:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by bobdreamz

Geez, the feeling is mutual in regards to Atlanta!

Have I accidentally wandered into city data?