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Old Posted Mar 18, 2013, 3:15 PM
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I have lived in Calgary, and this is not true. I've rarely seen enforcement, apart from the first week of school, and you will be tailgated if you go 30km/h.
Lived there 95-05, and it was true for me. Thanks, though, for implying that I was bold-faced lying for sh*ts n giggles.
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2013, 8:00 PM
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I find drivers in Calgary to be among the slowest I've ever encountered. I've never lived there but been many times and I always notice it.
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2013, 4:12 AM
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Summary of the past year's bike projects by the Province:

http://www.newsroom.gov.bc.ca/2013/03/cycling-investment-supports-communities-and-families.html

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VICTORIA - Twenty communities throughout British Columbia received more than $7.36 million in BikeBC funding this year to expand and build cycling lanes, trails and paths for B.C families, contribute to increased physical activity and help reduce greenhouse gases.

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21 projects boost B.C. cycling infrastructure

Community - Project Title: Grant Amount

Capital Regional District - E&N Rail Trail - intersection improvements: $765,216

Chilliwack - Boundary Road Shoulder Bike Way: $26,323

Comox - Anderton Road Bike Lanes: $12,500

Coquitlam - Coquitlam Fraser Greenway, Separated Bike Path: $175,000

Courtenay - Fitzgerald Avenue Bike Lanes: $44,161

Delta - Ladner Trunk Road Bike Lanes: $176,050

Kelowna - UBC Okanagan Connector Phase 2 Rails with Trails: $1,520,384

Langley Township - Allard Crescent Shoulder Bikeway: $100,000

Maple Ridge - Lougheed Highway Multi-Use Cycle Track: $488,956

North Vancouver - North Shore Spirit Trail: $100,000

North Vancouver District - Main/Barrow Bike Route: $69,375

North Vancouver District - Mount Seymour Parkway Bike Lanes: $480,900

Pitt Meadows - Kennedy Road Multi-Use Pathway: $100,000

Port Moody - Moody St Overpass Cantilevered Bike/Pedestrian facility: $652,625

Prince George Otway - Miworth Trail Planning study: $15,000

Richmond - Railway Avenue Greenway, Separated Path from Granville St to Garry St: $449,400

Rossland - Upper Columbia Multi Use Trails: $25,000

Surrey - Port Mann to City Centre Neighbourhood Bike Route: $1,159,870

Terrace - Kenney Street Bike Lanes: $41,300

Vancouver - Hastings Park Multiple Greenways and Separated Paths: $905,424

Victoria - Johnson Street, Begbie Street and Shelbourne Street Buffered Bike Lanes: $47,964
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Old Posted Apr 4, 2013, 11:11 PM
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First public air pumps and now public bike repair stations to appear in Vancouver

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2013/04/bike-repair-stations-hit-streets-of-vancouver/

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Old Posted Apr 24, 2013, 11:50 PM
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Downtown Bike Stats

Well if vehicle traffic downtown is down, bike traffic certainly is not up. Where have the people gone? Transit? Or stayed home?

http://vancouver.ca/streets-transportation/separated-bicycle-lanes.aspx
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2013, 1:48 AM
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Well if vehicle traffic downtown is down, bike traffic certainly is not up. Where have the people gone? Transit? Or stayed home?

http://vancouver.ca/streets-transportation/separated-bicycle-lanes.aspx
well those are some interesting statistics.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2013, 2:00 AM
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City today released some info showing traffic is down coming into d/t as well, guess some people are avoiding trips d/t altogether now, certainly explains the slacking retail numbers.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2013, 2:12 AM
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City today released some info showing traffic is down coming into d/t as well, guess some people are avoiding trips d/t altogether now, certainly explains the slacking retail numbers.
No surprise. If you lived in Surrey why would you come downtown in bad traffic and have to pay dearly to park, when you could cross the border, get cheaper retail prices and better selection plus get free parking.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2013, 2:54 AM
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No surprise. If you lived in Surrey why would you come downtown in bad traffic and have to pay dearly to park, when you could cross the border, get cheaper retail prices and better selection plus get free parking.
None of that has changed recently, so I don't see how it explains the decrease in trips downtown...
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2013, 3:38 AM
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Transit fares have increased. Parking at Surrey Central Station is up.

But is it folks from Surrey, Burnaby, Langley, Coquitlam, etc not going Downtown? I suspect it's the Vancouver residents from Commercial or Mount Pleasant or Kits who stay in their 'hood and have less desire of going Downtown.

The decrease can also be due to the hockey strike.
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Jlousa also posted this in the road infrastructure thread, but thought I'd link to it here as well. The Transportation 2040 False Creek Bridge Report makes interesting notes towards the existing cycling infrastructure and hints towards what may happen in the future. It's clear that the southbound Burrard Bridge lane will become permanent but it is also mentioned that the capacity is constricted on the northbound lane and the report also laments the lack of an eastern sidewalk. Does this mean they could reduce another lane on the Burrard bridge to accomodate both of these things? As a cyclist who wants to go as fast as possible I would love to have a wider northbound bike lane (passing people is sketchy right now) but man would that suck for regular vehicle traffic. As far as overall capacity though for commuters and tourists I don't really think being held up a bit behind slower cyclists (or families on sunny weekends or something) is that big of a deal. The lack of an eastern sidewalk does suck though, especially when pedestrians ignore the signs and walk three abreast along the sidewalk and complete block the bike lane.

The report also notes that there is no way to fill the 8 lane capacity on the Granville Bridge but I honestly don't think that removing lanes for pedestrians/cyclists is a great idea either, especially in the proposed 2 lane disaster down the middle of the bridge. It's the longest bridge of the three and I don't really see great cycling infrastructure on either end. It certainly isn't very appealing from a pedestrian point of view either, although a staircase down to the seawall and Granville Island would help (it would be a hell of a staircase though).

Cambie needs a better western sidewalk/bike lane for sure. I think I remember seeing/reading something a little while back that there is something in the works and it appears it will be cantilevered further out as opposed to removing a traffic lane. Hopefully that is the case.

What is interesting to note when you look at the bike lane statistics is that not a whole lot has changed with the improvements that have happened so far. And despite this, the plan still projects that pedestrian and cyclist traffic will double in the next 20 years? If there has been barely a change in the past 2, where is this growth going to come from? With vehicle traffic declining and cyclist traffic pretty much stagnent, wouldn't it make the most sense to focus time AND money on transit? Translink is pretty much broke and all this talk about Broadway vs. Surrey may be moot if they can't afford to do anything, but if the City of Vancouver shows that it is willing to step up to the plate somehow maybe they can push Translink actually moving forward.

Oh and I think a sure-fire way to improve cycling statistics (at least for summer and short trips) would be to lobby the Province to eliminate the mandatory helmet rule for those 18 years and older.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2013, 7:55 PM
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well those are some interesting statistics.
Yes. And, IIRC, they are consistent with earlier numbers, back when the monthly breakdowns were being posted, which showed that, after an initial increase, bike use on the lanes leveled off or dropped.

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Old Posted Apr 25, 2013, 11:12 PM
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Cambie needs a better western sidewalk/bike lane for sure.
I completely agree. The Eastern sidewalk gets busy during good weather (with bi-directional bike traffic and pedestrians), and is very difficult to access on the North end. Better connections and an extra cycle path will be a huge improvement.

I don't see any need for a cantilevered or extra lane though. The bridge seems way over-capacity in relation to the stretch of Cambie St. to the South. Particularly now that there are traffic lights at almost every intersection from 7th to 20th (excluding only 13th and 15th I think), the max capacity of Cambie St can easily be accommodated by one fewer lane on the bridge.

The infrastructure that is there is already overbuilt and can be realigned without building expensive new bridge lanes. Same goes for Granville St, but not so much Burrard. With both Burrard St and Cornwall feeding the Burrard Bridge, it is the only one of the three that is an actual bottleneck.
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This is a few days old, it almost slipped by unnoticed:

Bike paths to be widened on Second Narrows, new safety fence installed
http://www.theprovince.com/news/Bike+lan...afety+fence+installed/8278555/story.html

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Cyclists traversing the Ironworkers Memorial Second Narrows Crossing will find they have a little bit more elbow room in 2015.

The notoriously slim sidewalks are due to be widened from the current 1.2 metres to 2.5 metres, the province announced on Monday, the day before the official start of the 2013 general election.

Beyond the roomier pedestrian sidewalk/bike paths, the bridge will get a new three-metre high safety fence and a switch to energy efficient LED lighting.

"The Iron Workers Memorial Bridge is a vital transportation link for North Shore residents going to and from Vancouver. These upgrades will make commuting safer for cyclists and pedestrians," said North Vancouver-Lonsdale MLA Naomi Yamamoto in a B.C. Liberal government caucus press release.
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2013, 7:47 PM
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This is a few days old, it almost slipped by unnoticed:

Bike paths to be widened on Second Narrows, new safety fence installed
http://www.theprovince.com/news/Bike+lan...afety+fence+installed/8278555/story.html
That's nice to hear - it'll complement the cycling improvements on Low Level Road.
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2013, 10:46 PM
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Jlousa also posted this in the road infrastructure thread, but thought I'd link to it here as well. The Transportation 2040 False Creek Bridge Report makes interesting notes towards the existing cycling infrastructure and hints towards what may happen in the future. It's clear that the southbound Burrard Bridge lane will become permanent but it is also mentioned that the capacity is constricted on the northbound lane and the report also laments the lack of an eastern sidewalk. Does this mean they could reduce another lane on the Burrard bridge to accomodate both of these things? As a cyclist who wants to go as fast as possible I would love to have a wider northbound bike lane (passing people is sketchy right now) but man would that suck for regular vehicle traffic. .
The other day I was driving out of downtown (non rush hour) and vehicle traffic northbound was backed up well past midspan for the curb lane, trying to get to Hornby/Pacific so effectively emissions have been increased by Vision Vancouver's changes. The removal of another lane would only add to that. Hardly "green".
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The other day I was driving out of downtown (non rush hour) and vehicle traffic northbound was backed up well past midspan for the curb lane, trying to get to Hornby/Pacific so effectively emissions have been increased by Vision Vancouver's changes. The removal of another lane would only add to that. Hardly "green".
So one lane of a three lane bridge was backed up, and that means reducing it by one lane would be a disaster?
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2013, 11:21 PM
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The northbound curb lane of the Burrard Bridge only backs up because of the limitations of the traffic light at Hornby, so it's not really a good indicator of congestion.
The question is whether - during rush hours - the through traffic up Burrard can be accommodated on one lane rather than the current 2 lanes (since the curb lane would, in effect, become an exit lane during rush hours). At other times, the curb lane would function for both through traffic and exitting traffic.
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2013, 11:58 PM
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The other day I was driving out of downtown (non rush hour) and vehicle traffic northbound was backed up well past midspan for the curb lane, trying to get to Hornby/Pacific so effectively emissions have been increased by Vision Vancouver's changes.
Are you new to the city? That's been congested since forever.
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2013, 12:00 AM
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they should find a way to encourage more of the downtown traffic to take the Granville bridge instead of Burrard. Maybe they should remove the left turn lane from Broadway EB to Burrard? Make cars on Broadway turn at Granville instead. Also improve the access onto the bridge from 4th street around the loop park
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