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Old Posted Apr 18, 2013, 7:47 PM
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Actually the gothic appeal is what is turning me around on the tower, the more I look at it the more I like it.

I think despite what people say about architecture we are quite spoiled in Vancouver, the urban form of this tower is great! We have so many new towers squeezed in edge wise in our downtown core it is really starting to create a nice layered evolved urban form that is more often seen in Asia and Europe.
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Ugh! The more they show the renderings, new or otherwise, the more I loathe this building. I actually am hoping the BC NDP would kill this abomination and alas, if what officedweller says its true, then it looks like this is something we're going to have to deal with...

It really frustrates me to no end....why can't 320 Granville and 980 Howe, which are far prettier office projects, go first prior to this monstrosity????
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Old Posted Apr 18, 2013, 9:24 PM
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You would assume that a World Class Bank would try and "outperform" all others on the world stage when given a chance.
Maybe even something similar to the Transamerica Pyramid in SF, but I guess this Big Boxy shape has an air of strength and dependability about it ... or not.
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Old Posted Apr 18, 2013, 10:31 PM
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I don't understand how people are complaining about this building! It looks categorically better than the old design, and it looks great just on its own merit!
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Old Posted Apr 18, 2013, 10:39 PM
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Have to agree with Chadillaccc, this new rendition is closer to pure modernism, aligns and compliments far better with the heritage building and will likely age far better as well. It's logical and make so much design sense.
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Old Posted Apr 18, 2013, 11:56 PM
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I don't really understand why I like it, but I do in some visceral way. It shouldn't work... but it does for me. I think? Count me as a fan.

(People seem to be having pretty strong and polarizing reactions to this one. Maybe that's the downside of architecture that slips the norm?)
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Oh yes, and this thread info needs to be updated, it's 392 feet (119.4 meters) ;D
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I don't understand how people are complaining about this building! It looks categorically better than the old design, and it looks great just on its own merit!
Its short, fat, ugly and stubby! The old design was sleek and awesome! All this crappiness just to appease some wealthy nimbys who shouldn't be living in the central business district to begin with!
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The height is in response to a UDP DPB requirement to comply with a view cone.
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These renders are definitely better - at least it shows that the overhangs are more integrated into the tower (being on 2 sides) than we previously thought. Before it looked more "tacked on" one side.

It's interesting that the west side also has overhangs, rather than setbacks (which would create a stack of shifted blocks)
- but I guess the lease rate on the upper floors favours larger floorplates up top than down below.
Agreed. Based on the updated renders it looks a little cleaner and more coherent with the symmetrical sides.

But why not make the overhangs start higher so that it doesn't set back again near the top? Is this because it would look too top-heavy? Or because they wanted balconies? Either way it diminishes the simplicity of the design, and as much as I want to like it, that kills it for me.

As per standard Vancouver architectural fare, the design is trying to respond to too many things at once and winds up a bit of jumbled mess...
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You would assume that a World Class Bank would try and "outperform" all others on the world stage when given a chance.
Maybe even something similar to the Transamerica Pyramid in SF, but I guess this Big Boxy shape has an air of strength and dependability about it ... or not.
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Its short, fat, ugly and stubby! The old design was sleek and awesome! All this crappiness just to appease some wealthy nimbys who shouldn't be living in the central business district to begin with!
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The renders are better, but the building's design is no better. Those inverted terraces bulging out on the Howe Street side look just as incoherent as before and are obviously an inelegant compromise forced on the developer by the city's height restrictions and gratuitous concession to Jameson House residents.
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Even with those great new renderings this is just too weird for my taste. I am happy that this is not going to be taller than 31 floors, so it will just become infill for the area. Shame about the original design.
Sorry folks; I just can't get to liking it. Apples and shoe polish. Agreement with the above quoutes. A disappointment and a lost opportunity.
(not to mention Nimbyism forced down our throats, and not really in their neighbourhood, either (downtown).)
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I wonder how this affects the feng shui at Jameson House?
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I wonder how this affects the feng shui at Jameson House?
Very auspicious! Bringing much good fortune in the upcoming year.
























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Old Posted Apr 23, 2013, 6:49 PM
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Very auspicious! Bringing much good fortune in the upcoming year.
Now, now! ... keep it politically correct ... (even if it isn't)
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2013, 8:36 PM
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A real estate agent I spoke with said waits for the car elevator at Jameson House can be as long as 45 minutes on a busy Friday night.
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A real estate agent I spoke with said waits for the car elevator at Jameson House can be as long as 45 minutes on a busy Friday night.
Well it seems someone is looking to upgrade....
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2013, 10:54 PM
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Nah, I was tagging along with a friend up from California (formerly from Vancouver) looking for a pied-a-terre (and not looking at Jameson House) and got to talking about parking spaces generally.
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I was actually commenting seriously about how the new design would affect feng shui.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2013, 12:37 AM
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I was actually commenting seriously about how the new design would affect feng shui.
It would make their flowers grow more blossoms .
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Hey, don't knock it, Trofirhen! Whether one thinks it's superstitious nonsense or there really is something to it, having lived in Hong Kong, I can tell you this is taken VERY seriously since it is deemed to affect health, wealth and well-being.

For your interest, here's what an feng shui consultant had to say about Paris:

"Paris began about 2,000 years ago as a small settlement on the Seine River, which winds its way through ten of the city’s 20 districts. Seen from a feng shui perspective, the bend made by the river in central Paris “embraces” the Rive Gauche (Left Bank), imparting it with a yin (feminine) energy that exerts a positive influence. The area around the Sorbonne has not only produced many of the past century’s most revolutionary intellectual ideas; it also generates and supports long-term wealth, which is apparent in the old-money structures throughout St. Germain." (from www.fengshui-consultants.co.uk)

Good stuff, eh? Couldn't find a blurb on Vancouver, unfortunately, although I remember reading how the position of the mountains and the sea are very auspicious etc etc.. Methinks some of these feng shui masters are actually hired by property developers to attract the Asian market (which is something Donald Trump actually did for his buildings to attract Chinese buyers, btw).

@red paladin> I'd guess a feng shui master would say this building will likely have a negative effect on Jameson House's feng shui. Sharp edges pointing towards you are generally a no-no and its position blocks the flow of energy from the water.

Feng shui -- real or superstition. You be the judge...

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