Rideau Centre Expansion | Completed

[J.OT13]

The Rideau store will be smaller than Edmonton's. When you factor in that metro Ottawa is fairly larger than Edmonton (and significantly larger than Quebec City), and that our high French population is already familiar with Simons, it would be logical for us to get that second store in Gatineau.

And yeah, I'm also hoping for a massive re-build of the Sears space so that Nordstrom has a important, welcoming presence to both the Mackenzie King bridge and maybe even the rooftop patio. I want a dramatic transformation of the space similar to Vancouver's Pacific Centre. http://www.pacificcentre.ca/en/redevelopment/Pages/default.aspx

[eternallyme]

On CTV, they also mentioned that Holt Renfrew wants into the Rideau Centre as well...

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by eternallyme

On CTV, they also mentioned that Holt Renfrew wants into the Rideau Centre as well...

Not much room left in there. The expansion is supposed to be 180,000 sqft, and I'm sure that's not exclusively retail space. Add the old food court, and we might be up to 200,000 sqft of new retail. I can't see a retail establishment going up in the old theatre. Only time will tell if I'm wrong.

So between Simons (if Edmonton has 115,000 sqft, we might be looking at roughly 90,000 sqft), H&M (I can't imagine it loosing a spot in the Rideau, and that spot is likely around 30,000 sqft) and Holt Renfrew (at least 40,000 sqft), that would add up to 160,000 sqft in three stores. There goes the expansion since none of these stores would fit into the old food court.

Its worth noting that yesterday in the Citizen's article about the Ogilvy's collapse, Padolsky was talking about a 4 storey expansion on top of a 2 level underground parking. So they may have increased the size of the expansion since the original announcement last fall. Either that or Padolsky's wrong, which is a distinct possibility. (Not to mention the obvious problem of demolishing a five storey building to restore a three storey façade on a now, apparently, four storey mall.)

[eternallyme]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Not much room left in there. The expansion is supposed to be 180,000 sqft, and I'm sure that's not exclusively retail space. Add the old food court, and we might be up to 200,000 sqft of new retail. I can't see a retail establishment going up in the old theatre. Only time will tell if I'm wrong.

So between Simons (if Edmonton has 115,000 sqft, we might be looking at roughly 90,000 sqft), H&M (I can't imagine it loosing a spot in the Rideau, and that spot is likely around 30,000 sqft) and Holt Renfrew (at least 40,000 sqft), that would add up to 160,000 sqft in three stores. There goes the expansion since none of these stores would fit into the old food court.

Its worth noting that yesterday in the Citizen's article about the Ogilvy's collapse, Padolsky was talking about a 4 storey expansion on top of a 2 level underground parking. So they may have increased the size of the expansion since the original announcement last fall. Either that or Padolsky's wrong, which is a distinct possibility. (Not to mention the obvious problem of demolishing a five storey building to restore a three storey façade on a now, apparently, four storey mall.)

The expansion is only 180,000 square feet? It looks like there is room for over 400,000 square feet in the surface lot and old Ogilvy building...

Who owns the block on Rideau between Nicholas and Dalhousie, and if more space warranted, the block between Dalhousie and Waller? That could easily be purchased and reconstructed (with a 2-level skywalk over Nicholas), although they would only have 2 levels to work from near Nicholas due to the office building they would have to work around.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by eternallyme

The expansion is only 180,000 square feet? It looks like there is room for over 400,000 square feet in the surface lot and old Ogilvy building...

Who owns the block on Rideau between Nicholas and Dalhousie, and if more space warranted, the block between Dalhousie and Waller? That could easily be purchased and reconstructed (with a 2-level skywalk over Nicholas), although they would only have 2 levels to work from near Nicholas due to the office building they would have to work around.

I don't know about the rest, but the office tower is owned by the Equity Realty Group Inc. It was built in 67' and houses 130,000 sqft of office space.

As for the Rideau Centre, 180,000 sqft is a huge improvement to their 2006 plan when they were looking at a 2 storey, 110,000 sqft expansion.

[McC]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

As for the Rideau Centre, 180,000 sqft is a huge improvement to their 2006 plan when they were looking at a 2 storey, 110,000 sqft expansion.

I'm amazed you can keep track...!

[mac_junkie1]

Since the collapse at Ogilvy's, they've decided to take the rest of it down with excavators. Its half gone now. So for those who want to see it one last time, get down there before Friday because by the looks of it, it may be completely gone by then

In the meantime, keep track at the Facebook page;
www.facebook.com/charlesogilvyltd

[McC]

Passing by on Sunday, it looked like they were putting out a fire at the north end upper level(s); is this demolition cursed?

[Schattenjager]

Ogilvy building demolition to cost $2.7M
Kane Van Ee
OBJ Contributor

Published on April 3, 2013

Tearing down the former Ogilvy’s department store will cost the owners of the Rideau Centre approximately $2.7 million, according to municipal records.
Topics : Rideau Centre , PCL Constructors Canada , Cadillac Fairview Corp. , Rideau Street , Nicholas Street , Ottawa
By Kane Van Ee

General contractor PCL Constructors Canada Inc. is currently demolishing the old Rideau Street building, located at the corner of Nicholas Street, to make way for a $250-million expansion of the downtown shopping centre first announced last fall.

An additional 250,000 square feet of space is being added, along with three new floors of underground parking, according to heritage consultant Barry Padolsky.

The city issued the construction permit last month on the condition that the mall’s owner, Cadillac Fairview Corp., restore and reinstate the heritage-protected materials.

Cindy VanBuskirk, the general manager of the Rideau Centre, said the heritage facade, windows and other architectural features have been cleaned, sorted and stored off-site. These heritage components will be incorporated into the design of the new building.

“We will be bringing the building back to its former grandeur,” said Ms. VanBuskirk.

The historical components of the property had already been reportedly preserved when a wall collapsed at the demolition site last month.

Several features that were part of the original department store building are being recreated for the expansion. For example, designers are using historical photos and original architectural drawings to reproduce two metal cornices that were removed about 80 years ago.

“The building will look like it did when it opened in 1908,” said Mr. Padolsky.

Cadillac Fairview Corp. will be submitting a site plan to the city once its board of directors have settled on the future design concept, likely by June, said Ms. VanBuskirk. Construction of the expansion is expected to begin before the end of summer.

The Rideau Centre is not the only mall in Ottawa undergoing expansion. To the west, construction crews have been busy at Bayshore Shopping Centre to add an additional 160,000-square-feet of retail space that will cost $200 million and be completed for 2015.

http://www.obj.ca/Real-Estate/Constructi...vy-building-demolition-to-cost-%242.7M/1

[waterloowarrior]

[AuxTown]

Wow that is a big, and very important piece of land for Ottawa. They better do this right!

[J.OT13]

I may have OCD when it comes to those darn Ogilvy elevators. When I took the video Thursday, I noticed that the entire elevator shaft containing those 2 modern elevators that you described as being similar to the ones at the Bay's Freiman building was in the 1916 part of the Ogilvy. Now my mother who worked at Ogilvy's in the spring of 1985 only remembers one bird cage elevator with a bellhop, near the Rideau Street entrance on the left (although on the right would make more sense) as she got in. So that one would have been in the 1907 section and likely original to the building (according to a document I have read, it was an Otis-Fensom elevator). So that would make a grand total of 4 elevators in the Ogilvy; the freight, the two main ones on the 1916 blank wall and one the historic one in the 1907 building.

Anyway, I'm not sure anymore, but there was an elevator in the 1907 building and I'm pretty sure it was the same on that was there until at least 1985. I doubt they would have taken it out 9 years after the construction (1916 addition) or any other time after. If you ever speak to someone with a better memory of the building, maybe ask them about it.

Regardless, it's a bit to late to rage about now, I don't have much of a choice but to accept the buildings fate.

[rocketphish]

April 11, 2013



photo by me :-)

[Kitchissippi]

The Novotel building is so ugly, I can't wait for that view to be covered up again.

[Haussmanniste]

Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

The Novotel building is so ugly, I can't wait for that view to be covered up again.

Agreed. Although the building across the street from the Novotel and the Ogilvy is ugly, as well. At least the Novotel does not have a façade on Rideau Street. I pity the residents of 90 George who face south and have to see this everyday.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

The Novotel building is so ugly, I can't wait for that view to be covered up again.

It will only be covered by a three story building now as opposed to five. We now also get a better view of the Transportation Buildings blank wall when driving west on Rideau.

[Skyway]

Has anyone found anything to show what the proposed site will look like?

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Skyway

Has anyone found anything to show what the proposed site will look like?

All we have to go on today is the 2006 application to demolish the Ogilvy; it shows the whole Rideau Street elevation of the expansion at the bottom of the file. Keep in mind that the 2006 proposal was for a 2 storey expansion and that now we are talking about 3 floors.

http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/citycouncil/a-lacac/2006/03-23/ACS2006-PGM-APR-0079.htm

This is nothing new, I have posted this a few times before.

UPDATE: I checked the link, and they don't seem to show the elevations anymore for some reason. But the still show the Ogilvy corner.

[c_speed3108]

Behold a rendering of the Nordstrom side of the building with more glass.

https://twitter.com/VanessaLeeCTV/status/324921922104225792/photo/1


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https://maps.google.com/?ll=45.42396,-75...MjPz-N_vobKFtrIPw&cbp=12,278.76,,0,-0.23

[McC]

just me, or are they removing that southeast entrance?